Game Thread: (11/12) Lady Vols 63 - UCLA. 80

[glv98]

Do you think Voeple would just come out and say it’s coaching though?

Nah, I don't think she'd blast KJH outright. Would use the word chemistry 40 times in her column. And she wouldn't be wrong. Chemistry on the court is such an elusive thing. I think this team actually does have good off court chem, but are struggling mightly to play together for any consistent stretch. IMO they badly need a system, espec on offense, to play within.

 

[LasVegasBill23]

8 mins left and no one on our team has over 4 rebounds.

Pretty telling

I saw in the final box that for UCLA Sontag had 7 and Osborne and Rice the guards at 5 9 and 5 11 had 6 each

 

[Voluble2]

MBB won last week don't play again until next week. The football team fell off n it's face for the most part lack of talent and the WBB is just a disgrace, not even competitive against decent teams

Yeah, football was a disaster, but they were down to 3 defensive backs after Turnage went out, and one of those was an injured walkon. That will get you lit up in the SEC. We had no right being this far ahead in our rebuilding after losing 45 players just two yrs ago.

But the whole weekend was a huge gut punch.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Sad watching the NC State/UCONN game how much better coached these teams are. You actually recognize set plays being used. Defense being utilized. Sad the Lady Vols used to be the benchmark of what other programs strived to be.

 

[glv98]

Side note : M.A. Voepel announced he was a trans man in August. His pronouns are he/him. I’m sure a lot may not know but wanted to notify so we could be respectful of him and others.

Sorry, did not know.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Side note : M.A. Voepel announced he was a trans man in August. His pronouns are he/him. I’m sure a lot may not know but wanted to notify so we could be respectful of him and others.

Missed that, thanks.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Sad watching the NC State/UCONN game how much better coached these teams are. You actually recognize set plays being used. Defense being utilized. Sad the Lady Vols used to be the benchmark of what other programs strived to be.

More talented overall as well

 

[LadyVol1908]

Side note : M.A. Voepel announced he was a trans man in August. His pronouns are he/him. I’m sure a lot may not know but wanted to notify so we could be respectful of him and others.

Wowww! I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing!

 

[creekdipper]

No disrespect but this has nothing to do with discussing UT athletics. Something bad happens somewhere everyday. I get your point though.

No, I get the griping and the fair criticisms. I also get that sports provide a welcome escape from the harshness of the real world.

It's just when losing games creates ulcers, out of control blood pressure, and clinical depression that people need to get some perspective. The poster may have been joking, but there are people who take the games way too seriously. I get pretty disgusted at times, too, but I won't let the disappointment affect my life or relationships.

 

[LasVegasBill23]

I wonder if Muffet will come out of retirement until Candace or Tameka is ready to coach! cause I’m really losing hope in Harper and I’m trying hard not to.

Whoever coaches us;..... MUST demand the things Pat demanded.....

 

[NoBackBoard]

I encourage any poster who believes we need more players who can create their own shots to watch the Gonzaga-Marquette game currently underway. A system makes a difference.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Whoever coaches us;..... MUST demand the things Pat demanded.....

And needs to recruit better, this roster is flawed I don’t know what another catch could do but hopefully recruit better.

 

[alexvol]

Wow. This is a message board. Back and forth is what message boards are all about. You don't agree that's fine, but your language and attitude should get you banned..imo

Our player of the game. Marta. 7 points 4 rebounds...how sad

Yep and she has been in the system what now.....3years ....and to me she is a below average SEC player ...if she is SEC caliber at all .

 

[lvocd]

Sadly, that is a great capsule review of the first part of the season.


I go back and forth on this. Over rated or under coached? I'd easily say over rated if it was just us on this board with our head in clouds. But how did the coaches and media get fooled? They've watched these players for years. They know the talent level of Rickea Jackson. I'd be interested to hear someone like Michelle Voeple address what she got wrong and what she thinks is going on with the LVs.

In my case the confidence that this season would top last season was the fact that we made it to the Sweet 16 last season without Horston and Keyen, and with Rae being not fully healthy, and then got Horston back (and better) and Rickea to replace Rae and Franklin and Hollingshead to help Key who had too much pressure after Green went down. It seemed like a no-brainer that they'd take at least a small step forward.

It's still way early in the season and they very well might get it together, but I am kinda worried that these early ugly losses could have a lasting effect on confidence.

 

[cwbytruckers]

No, I get the griping and the fair criticisms. I also get that sports provide a welcome escape from the harshness of the real world.

It's just when losing games creates ulcers, out of control blood pressure, and clinical depression that people need to get some perspective. The poster may have been joking, but there are people who take the games way too seriously. I get pretty disgusted at times, too, but I won't let the disappointment affect my life or relationships.

Oh I completely agree. In the end its just a game. Just so frustrating watching this hot garbage. Of all the Universities sports team i think the Lady Vols may be the most passionate of them all.

 

[LasVegasBill23]

Without final 4 coaching. I keep the faith that this team could be our 10
Loss regular season national champion part 2 team or even hollys terrible regular season in which she somehow made the elite 8. Right now I’m just here watching no emotions. Just continue to lose and minor celebrate a win at this point.

Everyone talks about Final Four this and FF that.... we need to take and establish certain markers/steps before that..... competing for a Nattie... particularly with other programs that havew steppe3d up their game since our last FF in 2008 will be a dream without reach..... if we cannot limit turnovers improve offense, and other things

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I encourage any poster who believes we need more players who can create their own shots to watch the Gonzaga-Marquette game currently underway. A system makes a difference.

I’m gonna check it out even though I’m still in a bad mood.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

These stats do not include minutes, which makes it harder to compare.

Key attempted 1 shot in the game?
Horston 5 of 17 shots.
Rebounds: UCLA 41 TN 30
TN missed 11 free throws.
Something good: Turnovers: UCLA 18 TN 14

Some of those UCLA 3’s were going in whether they were defended or not, they were having that kind of day.

Glad we have a game tomorrow. Hopefully a win will get the taste of this game out of our mouths.

UCLA vs. Tennessee - Women's College Basketball Box Score - November 20, 2022 | ESPN

 

[volnationnj]

We only had 7 assists in the entire game. Probably the most obvious sign for the need of a change in our offensive system.

 

[lvocd]

Three University of Virginia football players shot to death on a bus after returning from a school field trip. Four University of Idaho students stabbed to death in their beds.

A lot worse things happened over the past week.

Of course I know that.

 

[NoBackBoard]

We only had 7 assists in the entire game. Probably the most obvious sign for the need of a change in our offensive system.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I encourage any poster who believes we need more players who can create their own shots to watch the Gonzaga-Marquette game currently underway. A system makes a difference.

Just watched a few possessions from Marquette, and their wing players can handle the ball and have height and can move so that’s better than us.

 

[teacherdean]

If any fan is allowing themselves to get physically sick over the Lady Vol situation I suggest they move away from the game and reassess their values. It is only a game that has been headed South before KJH took the reins. I am sad at the direction it is going but I refuse to allow it to affect my health and mental well being. In reality, I do not have the ability to change the situation and make it better. In essence, all I can really do is complain and hope for better results.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Oh I completely agree. In the end its just a game. Just so frustrating watching this hot garbage. Of all the Universities sports team i think the Lady Vols may be the most passionate of them all.

Certainly the most demanding.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Side note : M.A. Voepel announced he was a trans man in August. His pronouns are he/him. I’m sure a lot may not know but wanted to notify so we could be respectful of him and others.

Old news. My condolences though.