Game Thread: (13/10) Lady Vols 76 - Missouri 62

[mudcat1973]

I agree, Horston is the best player on the team but not on Parker's level.

if rae was 100 % i would give it to her.

 

[gule]

it has to be intentional

 

[mudcat1973]

why post gibberish, mudcat?

tenn done good for injurys. just saying if tenn does not win tital its no bad year.

 

[gule]

"Tenn has done well. Considering their injuries to the team, if Tenn does not win a title it's still not a bad year." TFYP no charge

 

[Rooster1]

post ark she shoter go shot i'm not the best shooter. watch it yourself. horston says she a shoter

after Noah's time someone shot her?

 

[th2421]

Not sure why we are not setting good, hard screens. Our players often just hand off the ball and trot past the defender when we could have freed up a teammate or rolled to the basket or open space if the defense gets caught up in the switch. If we emphasize that in practice, it ought to help our own defense in not leaving their shooters wide open, which happened repeatedly Sunday.

100%. We see our opponents get away with moving screens game after game so I’m not sure why we aren’t trying more screening action. Occasionally we’ll do it in a set play but I’m not sure why it isn’t the norm for breaking the press, in bounds plays (I think we’ve been lucky to not get more 5 second calls), and in the half court.

 

[brassie]

I agree, Horston is the best player on the team but not on Parker's level.

Players on Parker's level are very rare. When you have one you win championships.

 

[Volfan2012]

100%. We see our opponents get away with moving screens game after game so I’m not sure why we aren’t trying more screening action. Occasionally we’ll do it in a set play but I’m not sure why it isn’t the norm for breaking the press, in bounds plays (I think we’ve been lucky to not get more 5 second calls), and in the half court.

Real obvious vs UConn knew we wouldn't get anything called like that up there and was right. Our screening needs a lot of work.

 

[mudcat1973]

horston does not say she the best. just saying nobody had tenn wining it all before season started. if rae was not hurt tenn would be final 8 to final 4 team. any team losing best player to injury is going hurt them. not to leave out other two out for season. its not kelly or players just bad luck or fate. i am done just think some should lower bar from 9 champship or kelly can not coach or we have bad players.

 

[creekdipper]

after Noah's time someone shot her?

Shadrack, Meshack, and Abednego.

 

[mudcat1973]

those three went throw the fire with of the jesus.

 

[teacherdean]

I agree, Horston is the best player on the team but not on Parker's level.

We haven’t had anyone on Parker’s level since Parker herself. Playing mostly zone against Missouri will get us killed. Missouri is one of the best 3 point shooting teams in women’s basketball. The order of the day is woman to woman defense, clean up the turnovers, hit the boards on both ends, make your free throws, feed Key, PG must be productive, Horston must show leadership and Burrell must be more than a shadow of her old self. Due to her lack of speed and mobility, I would leave Saunders on the bench and use Striplin to replace Key. Missouri is guard oriented with no player over 6’3”. They are aggressive and Blackwell has to be controlled. It would appear that she is their best player.

 

[youcancallmeAl]

It is time for leaders to step up. The coaches can try their best to help the team regain its confidence...beginning with preparing the team with a sound game plan and demanding focus in practice. Not punishment but hard practices that have built-in consequences for avoidable unforced errors, repetition until execution reaches desired levels, and rewarding effort through increased time with first team. It's a tricky thing...don't want to build resentment toward teammates (a certain level toward coaches is normal and acceptable if channeled appropriately) or break trust or spirit, but sometimes a team needs to have a hard reset.

I liked Lucy's ideas about focusing on small segments...winning the next few minutes, getting a certain number of stops, etc. I had to learn that as a coach. It can be very effective in getting over a slide.

What do posters think about pressing against the high-pressure teams and giving them a taste of their own medicine? Do we have the speed to do that? Would it disrupt the opponent enough to affect their defense? Of course, we have to hit shots or convert their turnovers into points in order to set up our own press.

We also need to use bigs in the middle of the floor to break presses and pass out of pressure instead of dribbling into traps. Puckett, as mentioned, is a good safety valve who receives the ball and passes well. Burn them a few times, and the press comes off.

Not sure why we are not setting good, hard screens. Our players often just hand off the ball and trot past the defender when we could have freed up a teammate or rolled to the basket or open space if the defense gets caught up in the switch. If we emphasize that in practice, it ought to help our own defense in not leaving their shooters wide open, which happened repeatedly Sunday.

One of the persistent themes in our losses has been lack of speed. With the exceptions of Miles, Horston, and Dye, we are slow. It was glaring at Conn. The coaches have to scheme to mitigate the weakness.

 

[Gilmore]

I think there’s an SNL skit in here somewhere. Too funny

 

[brassie]

I think there’s an SNL skit in here somewhere. Too funny

Quite a few years ago, before the Summitt and VolNation, lots of fans posted on the AOL boards. There was one Tennessee fan who evidently spent her evenings snuggled up with George Dickel. She was a hoot. Most of her posts were absolutely unintelligible. Parts of this thread reminds me of her.

 

[JBB1985]

Maybe Coach K ought to have all the ladies' eyes checked because this team may be the worst shooting team I can remember,

Tennessee team stats {by NCAAW] affirm the team could shoot a tad better
OFFENSE --
FG% is 41.5% or 114th (in D-I)
3FG% is 29.9% or 206th
FT% is 64.4% or 314th
Assists/Game is 14.3 or 102nd
Turnovers/ Game is 17.5 or 261st
A's/ TO's ratio is 0.8x or 170th
Rebounds/ Game is 49.4 or 2nd (highest major)
Offensive rebounds/ Games is 16.8 or 3rd

DEFENSE --
FG% allowed is 32.9% or 3rd best
3FG% allowed is 26.9% or 32nd
TO's forced/ Game is 14.1 or 294th
Defensive Rebounds/ Game is 16.8 or 3rd
Blocks/ Game is 5.9 or 7th
PF's/ Game is 15.4 or 94th
Steals/ Game is 6.7 or 277th

 

[Coach Jumper]

Tennessee team stats {by NCAAW] affirm the team could shoot a tad better
OFFENSE --
FG% is 41.5% or 114th (in D-I)
3FG% is 29.9% or 206th
FT% is 64.4% or 314th
Assists/Game is 14.3 or 102nd
Turnovers/ Game is 17.5 or 261st
A's/ TO's ratio is 0.8x or 170th
Rebounds/ Game is 49.4 or 2nd (highest major)
Offensive rebounds/ Games is 16.8 or 3rd

DEFENSE --
FG% allowed is 32.9% or 3rd best
3FG% allowed is 26.9% or 32nd
TO's forced/ Game is 14.1 or 294th
Defensive Rebounds/ Game is 16.8 or 3rd
Blocks/ Game is 5.9 or 7th
PF's/ Game is 15.4 or 94th
Steals/ Game is 6.7 or 277th

Thanks for the report, Radar

 

[alexvol]

IMO,it "makes no never mind " (old adage ) about past stats in this game .....it will all be about handling the ball and confidence built as the game unfolds.

 

[Volfan2012]

My thoughts are the same everytime the Lady Vols play this season. Hold the opponent to under 60 points and we'll probably win. Our chances of winning holding opponents to 60 or less is 100 percent. When opponents get to 70 were usually almost always in trouble. Losses thus far opponent scored 74, 71. 75, and 84. The only games we have won when the opponent scores over 70 are Texas and Arkansas and they were both in overtime.

 

[casetopia]

those three went throw the fire with of the jesus.

either sober up or drink more so we can understand you.

 

[VOLPAT]

Ole Miss forced Mizzu into 21 turnovers and pounded them on the boards 38-26

Coach Pat used to send Kyra Elzy out there and she would be all over their best shooters. She would drive them crazy. Miles is smaller but reminds you of Kyra with her hustle. They need to find somebody to put on the shooters. That Ramirez from Arkansas hurt them in both games, even though she got in foul trouble In game 1. The Lady Vols just refused to lose both of those games.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

No way Tennessee can beat Missouri without Green's 7 points and 3 rebounds.

 

[VOLPAT]

My thoughts are the same everytime the Lady Vols play this season. Hold the opponent to under 60 points and we'll probably win. Our chances of winning holding opponents to 60 or less is 100 percent. When opponents get to 70 were usually almost always in trouble. Losses thus far opponent scored 74, 71. 75, and 84. The only games we have won when the opponent scores over 70 are Texas and Arkansas and they were both in overtime.

Good point. I didn’t realize that. I’d like to see them get that “attitude“ back they had in the first part of season.

 

[Aladywhovolunteer]

It is time for leaders to step up. The coaches can try their best to help the team regain its confidence...beginning with preparing the team with a sound game plan and demanding focus in practice. Not punishment but hard practices that have built-in consequences for avoidable unforced errors, repetition until execution reaches desired levels, and rewarding effort through increased time with first team. It's a tricky thing...don't want to build resentment toward teammates (a certain level toward coaches is normal and acceptable if channeled appropriately) or break trust or spirit, but sometimes a team needs to have a hard reset.

I liked Lucy's ideas about focusing on small segments...winning the next few minutes, getting a certain number of stops, etc. I had to learn that as a coach. It can be very effective in getting over a slide.

What do posters think about pressing against the high-pressure teams and giving them a taste of their own medicine? Do we have the speed to do that? Would it disrupt the opponent enough to affect their defense? Of course, we have to hit shots or convert their turnovers into points in order to set up our own press.

We also need to use bigs in the middle of the floor to break presses and pass out of pressure instead of dribbling into traps. Puckett, as mentioned, is a good safety valve who receives the ball and passes well. Burn them a few times, and the press comes off.

Not sure why we are not setting good, hard screens. Our players often just hand off the ball and trot past the defender when we could have freed up a teammate or rolled to the basket or open space if the defense gets caught up in the switch. If we emphasize that in practice, it ought to help our own defense in not leaving their shooters wide open, which happened repeatedly Sunday.

Don't think we have enought foot speed to press full court. However, willing to try anything to get the ladies to play stiffling team defense.

Like the idea of better, longer maintained and harder set screens. Would like to see Key and Horston run a pick and roll on every possession. Currently, pick and roll is not effective because Key is not a threat to shoot from the high post. As a result, her defender does not follower her away from the basket.

I think Tamari is the key both literally and metaphorically. Would like to see her shoot that 10 foot shot from the high post on every catch ( as Volfan2012 and I described in earlier posts) we must make the defense play Key honest. A productive pick and roll or pick and pop for Key could make up for Keyen's lost production, which must, be addressed.

Double teams have reduced Tamari effectiveness. Entry pass turnovers and limited utilization of her skills have emboldened defenses to believe she is guard able. She is not. Hope we take advantage.

Pressure defenses have disrupted our guards abilities to initiate our offense. Kellie has addressed this in the last two press conference. So it's time to change the narrative. Give the ball to Tamari at the high post and demand she shoot. Pick and roll and pick and pop with Tamari until she is guarded. Open and space the floor as a result. Just my opinion.

 

[Amb3096]

Good point. I didn’t realize that. I’d like to see them get that “attitude“ back they had in the first part of season.

This was the most glaring difference I've noticed BK ("Before Keyen") and AK. Their defense is pedestrian. And let's face it, their offense is not pretty. They were winning because their defensive efforts made even the better offenses look even uglier. If they can't get that defensive intensity back, then I don't see them making a strong push. It starts with Tamari. She looks afraid to foul...only 1 block vs. UConn, and it was a gimme that they tossed right at her. She needs to be fearless, and Emily/Karoline really need to step up and show up so that Tamari can be Tamari when she's on the court.