Game Thread: Lady Vols at Miss St; 7PM; SEC network

Digging into the vault of 2009 to zig zag. Bad loss is how I’d put it, benefit of winning back to back championships gives you freedom to take one. Especially if your roster consist of 7 freshmen. This team isn’t playing 7 freshman, not even playing the one they have or 4 sophomores. That team 12 players and 11 were underclassman. Seems in the selective memory you left out many details….also the infamous year of taking the locker room away. Which I put out there early in the season as a wake up call to the players.

Stanford won by 9, not 3 in the final 30 seconds while trailing most of the 4th.
Again, equity in Championship which Tara and Stanford have.

#2 seed Stanford was only leading Missouri State by 5 with two minutes to play.

Stanford was a
top five, overwhelming favorite playing one of the lowest seeded teams in the tournament ,far more favored than Tenn vs. Belmont. But evidently "equity" and being an "underclassman" All-American give cover.

Against Belmont, we had a mainly-underclassman team. And our statistical leader in scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals was out for the season when we played.
 
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#2 seed Stanford was only leading Missouri State by 5 with two minutes to play.

Stanford was a top five team playi g one of the lowest seeded teams in the tournament...an overwheling favorite, far more than Tenn vs. Belmont. But evidently "equity" and being an "underclassman" All-American give cover.

Against Belmont, we had a mainly-underclassman team. And our statistical leader in scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals was out for the season when we played.

Oh my, but not trailing by 2 in the final min.

Yes, equity as those young ones that lost to Ball St, only lost 3 games the following year.
 
Cockadoodledoodude. Check out this highlight clip. Indiana's players are not exceptionally quick and when they run up and down, several of them move just Puckett and Darby. But they play with a purpose, anticipate well, know their spots on the offensive sets and they have good ball movement , and they know how, who and when to double team and create traps. Their positional movement on their defensive shifts is really good. All things lacking in the LVs game.

UI highlight

If you are in the right position, you don't have to be the quickest player on the court to make a play.

Blaming this team's woes on a just not having "quick" enough players is really missing the point about why this team is under performing.

Mad, you are off on this one……I know.
 
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If you are in the right position, you don't have to be the quickest player on the court to make a play.

Blaming this team's woes on a just not having "quick" enough players is really missing the point about why this team is under performing.

True, the thing about very quick players is that if they take a false step, they are further out of position than a slower player that makes the same error.
 
She already reshuffled her assistants, ostensibly to improve recruiting.

Her results are consistent no matter who is on her staff. But I agree that bailing could be a sign. The problem with that is that we are paying the assistants more than they could make elsewhere so they will be less willing to make a move than they otherwise would be.
one got head coaching job. i say head coaching job is not firing ast coach to your own backside!!!!
 
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A lot talk about Lawson. I honestly don’t see that happening. Tennessee had their chance and passed on her. She’s doing well at Duke and seems happy there. I don’t see her giving that up for a school that passed on her the first time around.
 
I see none of the usual suspects complaining about Kellie's use of time outs last night.

What can I say that I haven't said a hundred times,,,there was a 9-1 run that preceded the timeout that put us back in a whole

I know with male athletes, quickness has become an improvable trait under good strength & conditioning trainers.

Anyone seen statistics on how receptive to this training older teen female athletes have been? So much of typical female body development during this period works against increasing lateral quickness...

Technique is everything in movement.
when in a crouched position, moving laterally or backwards, ALL bounce must be eliminated (your head and shoulders must be as if they are on a conveyor. There can be no bounce in your or there is wasted motion, which causes slowed reactions...I recently gave this advice to a baller...she was too vertical on her defensive stance. I told her ...
"re defense, if you are too vertical, you have to take that fraction of a second to gather before you can move laterally or backwards. That fraction of a second is where you most often get beat, as it take about 9/10's of a second to go from triple-threat at the arc-to ball off of the glass"

She listened, lowered her butt, and played a much better defense

So yes, absolutely, technique factors into quickness,
 
To my eye, the only truly quick players on our team are Rickea, Kaiya, Brooklynn, Powell and Edie Darby.

Second tier in quickness : Walker (who'd be first-tier if her knee had never gone through two acl surgeries/rehabs), Horston, who has great body control but who isn't truly "quick." (Horston lopes in her movements a lot in the way Rennia Davis does, but Jordan is still quicker than Rennia) Jillian and Justine.

Jasmine Franklin is in a category of her own because she's in-between, depending on how her knee is holding up that day.

The least quick third tier is Sara, Tess, Karoline (and Marta, Tamari and Jessie).

If there were a quickness-revealing "hand-slap game" tournament, this is how I'd seed the players. lol
Hahhaaaahaaaa.....You know what I want to say but I won't dare say it
I want to say it sooo bad.
But.....
Great post.
 
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A lot talk about Lawson. I honestly don’t see that happening. Tennessee had their chance and passed on her. She’s doing well at Duke and seems happy there. I don’t see her giving that up for a school that passed on her the first time around.

Unless she understands Tennessee passed on her for someone with a lot of head coaching experience, and she had none. I'd doubt that a smart person would get upset by that.
 
I get the criticism of coach and the team, and I agree with some of it. I really don't get people who come out of the woodwork only when we lose or a player has a particularly bad game. As a passionate fan, I can get over-excited when things are going well and be quite negative when things aren't. For teams I can't get excited about when they play well, I would never have the anger/disappointment/frustration in me to lash out when they play poorly. To me, the lashing out after the loss by the non-fans just speaks about them and adds nothing to the dialogue about the team because at that point a lot of their own personal bile comes out. The team, players, or even the fans here just become their target.
 
Unless she understands Tennessee passed on her for someone with a lot of head coaching experience, and she had none. I'd doubt that a smart person would get upset by that.
Yes, Harper has more head coaching experience. However, her track record at the Power 5 level wasn’t good coming in. It was some type of risk either way. And I don’t think she’s upset by it. I just think she found her fit.
 
No argument here. It was so obvious that Puckett was amazingly uncovered and wide open and it was also so obvious that she never gave a thought to going anywhere other than Jackson.
No doubt she forced a impossible pass and totally ignored a wide open Puckett for a 3 that could have changed the outcome. She may not have hit it but it she was wide open and had a great look. Just terrible decision making right there.
 
The difference between yours and LVOCD's post illustrates that "quickness" is an ephemeral concept, with a lot components.

Jordan H. is a unicorn in terms of her speed and quickness for a player her size but a quick guard with a lower center of gravity, like Annie Hayes, can get by her if the angle is right (and Jordan is going to play in the WNBA, Hayes probably not).

Jillian H is a 6'5 player. As post players goes, she is quite quick relative to other posts but again match her up against an athletic 5-8 guard on the perimeter and the odds are not in her favor.

When you look at the top 10, you have #2 Indiana, #5 Iowa, #7 Utah, #11 VA Tech, #13 Ohio State, and #23 Colorado. Tennessee has better athletes across the board. Their starter line-ups are filled with players who physically look a lot like Puckett and Darby and yet they are defending and winning.

A good defensive team works as a unit, anticipates positions and denies passing lanes, forces teams out of their normal modes, has good court awareness so that players don't get lost on screens and cuts, and boxes out. Of course, if you have speed demon matched up one on one with less quick defender, you will get a blow by but good defensive teams make such events a rarity in games rather than a regular occurrence. Kaiya for example, has a rep for being a good defender, With her we are talking about small samples but she gets burned routinely when she is on the court due poor positioning and missed assignments,.

The problems with out offense catch all the attention but our defensive sets are just as bad. The team plays solid defense for about half a game but then they fall into bad habits. I do think some of the disjointedness comes from the continual mixing and matching of players that goes on. Its is a strange world when one minute you have Franklin, Hollinsghead, Jackson, Puckett, Walker on the floor and on the next sub, you have Powell, Walker, Horston, Striplin, and Darby. What is the defensive scheme across those two line-ups?

I don''t care how quick a player is if there is very little basketball IQ (Indiana has some smart players & they play as a team) then all that quickness is in vain.
 
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I get the criticism of coach and the team, and I agree with some of it. I really don't get people who come out of the woodwork only when we lose or a player has a particularly bad game. As a passionate fan, I can get over-excited when things are going well and be quite negative when things aren't. For teams I can't get excited about when they play well, I would never have the anger/disappointment/frustration in me to lash out when they play poorly. To me, the lashing out after the loss by the non-fans just speaks about them and adds nothing to the dialogue about the team because at that point a lot of their own personal bile comes out. The team, players, or even the fans here just become their target.

They are affectionately referred to as "Drive-by fans"
 
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Yes, Harper has more head coaching experience. However, her track record at the Power 5 level wasn’t good coming in. It was some type of risk either way. And I don’t think she’s upset by it. I just think she found her fit.

Reluctant to dignify all this ridiculous "coaching change" mid-season lunacy, but it's hard not to burst out laughing thinking of the reactions from the Lawson contingent if she had come here and then canceled her season.
 

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