Game Thread: Lady Vols at No. 4/3 LSU; 7PM; ESPN2

[VOLPAT]

Her downfall as LV coach, if it comes, is that she wants to run the team as a democracy, sharing power with assistants and even trying to be egalitarian in how she distributes minutes to players.

It is good to be collaborative but, at some point, the buck stops with the coach and you have to run with the players who give you the best chance to win.

You are so right. It’s going to be her name that takes the hit, not theirs. She played point guard and floor leader for Coach Summitt and she was good at it. She knows how to coach and doesn’t need constant advice during the game. They are not even shooting well enough right now. It’s no wonder they don’t play well together, the same 5 are rarely in together.

 

[Majors]

Albino tiger
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Both in play

 

[VOLPAT]

Schedule to tough????
I keep hearing that Coach Kellie or whoever made the Schedule made a mistake by scheduling to many top rated teams but is that a fair statement? With all the transfers I think it is really hard to predict (outside of 2 or 3 teams) how good (or bad) a team is going to be. Did anyone predict OSU or Indiana were going to be top 10? Did anyone predict that we would not be a top 10 team?
I just looked at the ESPN top 20 preseason rankings, only Stanford and UConn were rated in the top 10. Preseason OSU was ranked 13 and Indiana was ranked 17th. I don’t think we can blame whoever made the schedule that some of the teams we played are better than expected. I guess we could just schedule teams that we know won’t be competitive.
JMO

Tennessee is not good enough to play the number one schedule. There was confusion in more than one game. LSU played ALL cupcakes, pre SEC, are ranked high and playing just fine.

 

[VOLPAT]

I was going to throw my hat in on predicting some score windows for this game, but reviewing LSU's schedule really pissed me off. Tennessee would have a great shot at being 20-0 with their schedule too. I have no idea what's going to happen. Road wins are always hard, and Mulkey is a great coach, but their record is one sweet cuppin' cake of sorry scheduling. It's borderline criminal to see an SEC team with their pedigree having a SOS outside the top 100. Bah. NW State? Tulane? MS Valley? New Orleans? Montana State? Come on.

I mean, nuts to it. LSU has played nobody - NOBODY - outside of their SEC opponents. And Tennessee has. Fine. Tennessee wins. I shouldn't. It's foolish. But LSU's entire resume is printed on tissue paper. Bah. BAH.

But looks who is ranked and had the opportunity to fine tune her team. Kellie gets too much game time input from one coach constantly in her ear and one leaving the seat to talk to players On the floor.

 

[KTrain]

Tennessee is not good enough to play the number one schedule. There was confusion in more than one game. LSU played ALL cupcakes, pre SEC, are ranked high and playing just fine.

I agree with playing a little lighter early schedule, it helps in continuity and could have worked players like Pissott getting work in and added some confidence before the SEC schedule.

 

[lfvol]

I agree that LSU's scehedule is a freaking JOKE. However, to most people they just see 20-0 and that creates a huge buzz and puts fans in the seats. Most people outside of this board don't over-analyze every little thing about a team or their schedule. They see UNDEFEATED and a number ONE seed in the NCAA.

Maybe so, but they are trending with a great recruit coming in 23. Better get them while we can.

 

[RAVOL]

Looking back no one had any idea of Keys condition. We were expecting her to take the next step offensively to go along with her Defense. No doubt a healthy Key would have been the difference in several games. Franklin still recovering adjustment of team slower than we all would like. We truly need a third player to take next step and Julian has the most upside in these big games. Hopefully she is ready to take that step. Going forward in these big games Striplin Darby and Puckett can not be on the court to start games. To slow against elite offensive teams. I will be watching go Lady Vols. In CHRIST Alone

 

[Mr.Vol2U]

Kellie needs to start the 5 BEST players and stop the bizarre substitution patterns. She need to tell her assistant coaches to let her makes those calls and get out of her ear all game. She only need to speak in the huddle. Tennessee is not good enough yet to play the pre conference schedule. LSU played cupcakes and they are ranked and playing just fine.

Lol you really think the assistant coaches is telling her to do those bizarre substitution patterns? Um no. That's all on Kellie. If anything the coaches probably want to tell her not to do those weird substitution patterns. Kellie is all about schematics and analytics instead of the eye test: which I feel like is not the best idea. I say start the your best five but hell I don't get paid to make them decisions.

 

[Mr.Vol2U]

Also I predict the score to be
Tenn -77
LSU- 71

 

[alexvol]

The truth about where LSU is will be on display Monday

 

[Nute Gunray]

Her downfall as LV coach, if it comes, is that she wants to run the team as a democracy, sharing power with assistants and even trying to be egalitarian in how she distributes minutes to players.

It is good to be collaborative but, at some point, the buck stops with the coach and you have to run with the players who give you the best chance to win.

Brilliant and perceptive analysis as always, madtownvol

 

[Voluble2]

It will be white. The only question is, will there be sequins ?

Graceland will need to add extra security around Elvis' old outfits.

 

[Nute Gunray]

Her downfall as LV coach, if it comes, is that she wants to run the team as a democracy, sharing power with assistants and even trying to be egalitarian in how she distributes minutes to players.

It is good to be collaborative but, at some point, the buck stops with the coach and you have to run with the players who give you the best chance to win.

Madtownvol, how dare you suggest that Kellie should coach like Geno. How dare you. Just kidding of course. You are right on.

 

[Rooster1]

Here is the whole thing in a nutshell as they say….UT can beat LSU @ Baton Rouge, they can, but I don’t see it right now, I see the LV’s getting rolled, hope like hell I am wrong, will be rooting as hard as I can for UT tomorrow night….likely a hostile and fired up environment so have to be able to play through all that.. just hope LV’s find a way to win…I expect Mulkey to have her team on fire from the start…that’s what she does..

 

[Ladyvol93]

Lol you really think the assistant coaches is telling her to do those bizarre substitution patterns? Um no. That's all on Kellie. If anything the coaches probably want to tell her not to do those weird substitution patterns. Kellie is all about schematics and analytics instead of the eye test: which I feel like is not the best idea. I say start the your best five but hell I don't get paid to make them decisions.

Trust me there is one coach who is responsible for the substitution patterns and I don’t know why KH has so much confidence in them. Look back…I said this weeks ago and it was laughed at. Go to enough games and watch it live. You will see who is subbing players. Why KH is letting it happen is beyond me.

 

[VOLPAT]

Lol you really think the assistant coaches is telling her to do those bizarre substitution patterns? Um no. That's all on Kellie. If anything the coaches probably want to tell her not to do those weird substitution patterns. Kellie is all about schematics and analytics instead of the eye test: which I feel like is not the best idea. I say start the your best five but hell I don't get paid to make them decisions.

I’ve gotten no checks either. Lol. But starting the best five and letting them learn to play together and use the next best two players as subs. Time for a checkup from the neck up…..either way.

 

[GameTime]

LVs chances of winning against LSU.....

 

[turbovol]

Harper needs to leave her best players on the floor....

 

[KTrain]

Maybe so, but they are trending with a great recruit coming in 23. Better get them while we can.

Yep that 20 & 0 record looks good to recruits. Like someone said VN over analyze things and know every little fact which is great amongst the community but if you play the number 1 schedule and lose all those games all the recruits see is the record. Their refrain is I'd rather to go to an upper tier team.

 

[mike099]

LSU by 8

 

[Chippo]

Trust me there is one coach who is responsible for the substitution patterns and I don’t know why KH has so much confidence in them. Look back…I said this weeks ago and it was laughed at. Go to enough games and watch it live. You will see who is subbing players. Why KH is letting it happen is beyond me.

I happened to miss the post. Who is it??

 

[Volfan2012]

Her downfall as LV coach, if it comes, is that she wants to run the team as a democracy, sharing power with assistants and even trying to be egalitarian in how she distributes minutes to players.

It is good to be collaborative but, at some point, the buck stops with the coach and you have to run with the players who give you the best chance to win.

Almost everybody that is any good is playing 7 to 8 players total. The best five on all these teams plays 170 minutes or more. The exceptions seem to be SC who with 11 players that don't drop your ability any get some playing time. Stanford sometimes plays up to nine. I think were a team that needs to play no more than eight and I have determined who that eight are and five of them need about 170 minutes of the playing time.

 

[Volfan2012]

I happened to miss the post. Who is it??

I think that post said it was Jon Harper.

 

[glv98]

Trust me there is one coach who is responsible for the substitution patterns and I don’t know why KH has so much confidence in them. Look back…I said this weeks ago and it was laughed at. Go to enough games and watch it live. You will see who is subbing players. Why KH is letting it happen is beyond me.

For the 89th time, KJH has ALWAYS relied on asst coaches to make the ROUTINE, PREPLANNED sub rotation which has been agreed to as part of the pregame planning. Like almost every coach in the known universe, she has such a plan and depends on someone else to watch the clock and tell the players its time to go in. She can, and does, override the preplan and make other subs herself depending on game circumstances. This is a non issue, except for those who have the perpetual Jon bug up their butts.

As far as sharing coaching power, do ya'll know Coach Rick Barnes? He always has an ASSOCIATE HEAD COACH who does roughly the same amount of bench and huddle coaching he does. Know that vaunted defense they run? It was designed, taught, and in game implemented by Assoc Head Coach Michael Shwartz, a defensive genius. His title included Defensive Coordinator. In the SEC tourney championship game last year, Schwartz pretty much took over the in game coaching.

When Schwartz got a head coaching job after last season, Barnes promoted Justin Gainey to Assoc Head Coach. Gainey was credited with the one on one coaching development of Kennedy Chandler to the NBA last year. He does alot of ingame coaching now.

Almost all successful head coaches are like CEOs, they delegate. Some, like Calapari, do almost no practice or game planning, just prance the sidelines and take credit (or in Cal's current case, the blame.) KJH has many issues, but IMO delegating power to assistants is not one of them.

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[creekdipper]

I happened to miss the post. Who is it??

Shooter.