Game Thread: Lady Vols @ Auburn: Thurs Jan 4, 7:02 p.m. CT (8:02 Eastern) ; SECN+ Win 75-67

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glv98 said:
Dear Lord. The determination to never, ever give credit is really real.
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So a player can’t take a game over? It’s basketball right? Or in this case two players. Earlier it was discussed as RJ as a top 3 scorer unless that doesn’t count right now.
 
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Majors said:
My agenda is Kellie is in over her head, I don’t shy away.
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For me, if the players win it
If coaching wins it
If luck wins it
I will call it that way

No agenda...If I had an agenda they'd know it...Darth would pale in comparison
 
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Coach Jumper said:
For me, if the players win it
If coaching wins it
If luck wins it
I will call it that way

No agenda...If I had an agenda they'd know it...Darth would pale in comparison
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Based on the box score, I’ll go with player(s)
 
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Majors said:
So a player can’t take a game over? It’s basketball right? Or in this case two players. Earlier it was discussed as RJ as a top 3 scorer unless that doesn’t count right now.
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Of course a player (or 2) can take over and lucky for us RJ and JP did. But none of that was the question.

The question was when did the turnaround in the game happen. To some of our untrained eyes, it looked for all the world like it happened early in the 3rd qtr after halftime adjustments. You know, when we caught them and then took the lead.

Others say it happened when RJ got gut punched and made a face in the second quarter, only the score didn't reflect it until a quarter or so later. Which sounds more logical?
 
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glv98 said:
Of course a player (or 2) can take over and lucky for us RJ and JP did. But none of that was the question.

The question was when did the turnaround in the game happen. To some of our untrained eyes, it looked for all the world like it happened early in the 3rd qtr after halftime adjustments. You know, when we caught them and then took the lead.

Others say it happened when RJ got gut punched and made a face in the second quarter, only the score didn't reflect it until a quarter or so later. Which sounds more logical?
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I’ve stated it was the missed layup by Bostic and 3 point by Tess. We had the lead but that deflated the run Auburn could have went on by cutting the small lead.
 
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Majors said:
I’ve stated it was the missed layup by Bostic and 3 point by Tess. We had the lead but that deflated the run Auburn could have went on by cutting the small lead.
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LOL ok your in the books as a non-denier of the halftime adjustment theory.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Definitely a case of trying to wedge the “facts” to support a position. There were definitely adjustments made and they returned to the floor with that ass on fire! Took them a minute or two to realize what the hell the mission was defensively, but they found the fire they needed.
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Kellie latest presser on YouTube. On keeping players in that play in game at the end. Players that were in wereplaying well together and they just rolled with.it. She talked about taking players a side in practice telling them what they see and how they can improve. Then let them go play. So there is teaching in practice. Spear ok. She talks about Key and also Wynn. So there no set substitute pattern predetermined beforehand.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
too good...a lot of ummm, unhh's out there right now
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Majors said:
So a player can’t take a game over? It’s basketball right? Or in this case two players. Earlier it was discussed as RJ as a top 3 scorer unless that doesn’t count right now.
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This line of discredit begs the question -- has a coach ever won a game without players making plays.

Would CPS have won NCs without Gordon, Holdsclaw, and Parker?

Would Phil Jackson have won titles without Jordan, Kobe and Shaq?

I will recognize the novel argument though- you are not a good coach because your players made plays.
 
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madtownvol said:
This line of discredit begs the question -- has a coach ever won a game without players making plays.

Would CPS have won NCs without Gordon, Holdsclaw, and Parker?

Would Phil Jackson have won titles without Jordan, Kobe and Shaq?

I will recognize the novel argument though- you are not a good coach because your players made plays.
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Interesting take, putting Kellie, PS
and Zen Master in the same conversation. Let’s see Kellie cut down a net here before we anoint her.
She’s more in line with a high school coach getting what her zone allows.
 
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Majors said:
Interesting take, putting Kellie, PS
and Zen Master in the same conversation. Let’s see Kellie cut down a net here before we anoint her.
She’s more in line with a high school coach getting what her zone allows.
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Deflecting and dodging again. The point is that discrediting a coach because her players made plays is pretzel logic.
 
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madtownvol said:
This line of discredit begs the question -- has a coach ever won a game without players making plays.

Would CPS have won NCs without Gordon, Holdsclaw, and Parker?

Would Phil Jackson have won titles without Jordan, Kobe and Shaq?

I will recognize the novel argument though- you are not a good coach because your players made plays.
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re-read the question and maybe answer it
Majors said:
Who do you have more faith in, Kellie coaching or RJ playing?
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chuckiepoo said:
Hey, yo. Hate to interrupt but yer treating these individuals are singular entities. They’re part of a team. ✅
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Have noticed the player setting a screen so her teammates can get a open jumper or drive rarely get in praises. Karoline does slot that there's others on the team oh set picks good. Tess getsaalot of she only waits for someone throw her the ball. But seen Tess tip a ball that other team was passing or poke it lose from the other team. Tess or the player who kept the other player from getting the ball or knotting it lose don't get credit for the steal or rebound.There or do the little notice plays
Or how about when a player boxes out a teammate gets a rebound.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Have noticed the player setting a screen so her teammates can get a open jumper or drive rarely get in praises. Karoline does slot that there's others on the team oh set picks good. Tess getsaalot of she only waits for someone throw her the ball. But seen Tess tip a ball that other team was passing or poke it lose from the other team. Tess or the player who kept the other player from getting the ball or knotting it lose don't get credit for the steal or rebound.There or do the little notice plays
Or how about when a player boxes out a teammate gets a rebound.
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Hustle and hi IQ plays. Those qualities play to their favor. They are challenged in other areas they can improve. We’ll get there, Boo! 😉
 
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madtownvol said:
Deflecting and dodging again. The point is that discrediting a coach because her players made plays is pretzel logic.
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It’s neither. You’re comparing a coach who hasn’t won to coaches who write books on winning and philosophy of winning. They’re not the same. But nice try believing somehow Kellie pulled up next to Pat and Phil Jackson. A coach doesn’t get to ride coattails because they are called coach.
Not sure you understand the question, so I’ll say it again.

Who do you trust more RJ playing or Kellie coaching? Which was the question. Somehow the answer was neither Kellie or RJ. But Pat and Phil Jackson were added with a question, which is called “deflection” and “dodging”.

Sidebar as I could be wrong…but Phil or Pat were never fired. Don’t discredit HS school zones, sometime the class(es) align for a coach who’s never won to win.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Hustle and hi IQ plays. Those qualities play to their favor. They are challenged in other areas they can improve. We’ll get there, Boo! 😉
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Sitting in the living room looking out the window as the night is letting day slowly take over. Cloudy gloomily sky still has it way before the mountain on the east let's the sun shine hit yard about a hour after sun rises. Birds are saying hello. Stoping Describing my place in the county writing a book.Before the sun goes down behind west side also their a mountain on that side of my house. Lady's will start play the wildcats when the sun at high noon. Then about two hours Vols will be 2 0in the sec.
 
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