Game Thread: Lady Vols host Vandy ; Sunday Jan 21, 3PM; SEC Network ;...Win 73-64

[VolFuture]

Didn’t look like anything to me. Just looked like Kellie being the bigger person and giving her a kind word. I’m not sure Justine expected it but I suspect Kellie paid her a compliment and she said thank you.

No need for bad blood between the two.


Now….for the fans, I think we are well within our right to boo her anytime she’s in Knoxville. She’s a tough kid she had to expect that. You don’t transfer to an instate arch rival without getting some lip. She was talking a fair bit of trash out there as well but our players were talking back. Seemed mostly friendly/competitive and not outright bad blood.

I know Sarah said something before she made a 3 before she was giving her the “what was that!?” Sign on the way back down.

I maintain she’s no better than she was at UT and is a true waste of her frame. It’s a shame to be 6’5” in wbb and only averaging 2.0 reb a game. Only a 30% shooter and has a low release, unless she makes significant changes over the next two years we are seeing all she has to offer at the moment. Lots of potential there but it is yet unrealized.

Do believe she must have had some sort of guarantee to start at Vandy. The way they play her doesn’t make much sense. She’s never in the game during important stretches of play. Mostly that is Pierre who is much more of a go to when in the ballgame.

Also interesting how much Allen’s minutes dropped. She played a lot last season. Does she have an injury? If not I’d expect to see her in the portal.

She HAD to have promised Justine starting time to get her. Allen was their go to 3 point shooter. She was putting up numbers at least equal to if not better than Justine is now, last year… I was confused too. Percentage wise probably better from the 3 too.

 

[madtownvol]

She HAD to have promised Justine starting time to get her. Allen was their go to 3 point shooter. She was putting up numbers at least equal to if not better than Justine is now, last year… I was confused too. Percentage wise probably better from the 3 too.

But, when clutch time came, Shea did not have JP in the game, even though they needed 3 pt shooting.

 

[VolFuture]

But, when clutch time came, Shea did not have JP in the game, even though they needed 3 pt shooting.

Exactly “starting time”

 

[madtownvol]

I don't have ANY ailments even close to Asthma and when I get some of these "Knoxville area viruses",,they can knock me down for a couple of hours or a couple of weeks.

There is one, particularly that weakens the person and makes everything you eat or drink make you nauseous...You get to where you don't want anything to eat or drink and if you don't force yourself to replenish your electrolytes during the span of that virus you can even wind up in E.R.

Those that have experienced this knows the virus in which I speak.

I am a very healthy 63 year old. Walk 2 miles 3X's a week and followup each walk with 15-30 minutes of cardio playing basketball...And when this virus hits me, I am on my recliner for 1-2 weeks.

That said, I can't even imagine what someone subject to lingering ailments like asthma/bronchitis or the like,, would go through.

Asthma is a different beast. It can flare in degrees where you have compromised breathing so that everything feels hard--I think Rickea has had some of those games and it can get triggered where airways in the lungs more seriously constrict (a full blown asthma attack which she suffered last night).

Unfortunately, it is a condition that is often not treated very effectively,. You just can't give an athlete with asthma a "rescue inhaler" and hope for the best.

The fact that RJ took a freakin' benadryl before a game tells me she is not getting very good medical guidance on managing her allergies and asthma. Benadyrl is a first generation drug and there are much more effective, non-drowsy inducing antihistamines on the market.

There are long acting inhalers like aerobid that reduce lung tissues reactivity and those should absolutely be part of RJ routine. I am skeptical that is the case right now. To have a blown asthma attack come on during a game is a sign that her asthma is not in control.

Hopefully, UT trainers will now get her to a specialist.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Exactly “starting time”

That’s like Happy Hour amiright?

 

[DeerPark12]

Asthma is a different beast. It can flare in degrees where you have compromised breathing so that everything feels hard--I think Rickea has had some of those games and it can get triggered where airways in the lungs more seriously constrict (a full blown asthma attack which she suffered last night).

Unfortunately, it is a condition that is often not treated very effectively,. You just can't give an athlete with asthma a "rescue inhaler" and hope for the best.

The fact that RJ took a freakin' benadryl before a game tells me she is not getting very good medical guidance on managing her allergies and asthma. Benadyrl is a first generation drug and there are much more effective, non-drowsy inducing antihistamines on the market.

There are long acting inhalers like aerobid that reduce lung tissues reactivity and those should absolutely be part of RJ routine. I am skeptical that is the case right now. To have a blown asthma attack come on during a game is a sign that her asthma is not in control.

Hopefully, UT trainers will now get her to a specialist.

She has been seeing specialists for two years, it’s not amateur hour with UT’s medical staff.

 

[glv98]

She has been seeing specialists for two years, it’s not amateur hour with UT’s medical staff.

Since I've seen pics and heard her this morning and she's obviously ok, and obviously doesn't want to talk about what happened, I'm hopping off the speculation train.

But I totally agree, there is no possibility any and all medical issues aren't being addressed. Between a very active Mama Bear, a high power agent about to negotiate a contract, and the UT staff, it's all being tended to. Sometimes folks w respiratory issues just get sick this time of year.

 

[madtownvol]

She has been seeing specialists for two years, it’s not amateur hour with UT’s medical staff.

Good to know!!

But that makes it harder to make sense of the benadryl episode or this attack.

 

[DeerPark12]

Good to know!!

But that makes it harder to make sense of the benadryl episode or this attack.

The Benadryl quote was a joke.

 

[madtownvol]

The Benadryl quote was a joke.

Was it?

 

[Benionsopinion]

She has been seeing specialists for two years, it’s not amateur hour with UT’s medical staff.

DeerPark, good to hear from you. Just this morning, I was thinking about not hearing from you for awhile. You are always knowledgeable and concise in your posts. Thanks for your input.

 

[VolBall09]

Since I've seen pics and heard her this morning and she's obviously ok, and obviously doesn't want to talk about what happened, I'm hopping off the speculation train.

But I totally agree, there is no possibility any and all medical issues aren't being addressed. Between a very active Mama Bear, a high power agent about to negotiate a contract, and the UT staff, it's all being tended to. Sometimes folks w respiratory issues just get sick this time of year.

I developed severe exercise induced bronchoconstriction after my 4th round of Covid. Active and healthy 33 yo who suddenly couldn’t climb one flight of stairs without being out of breath.

A year on I’m doing much better but still have trouble with significant exertional exercise. I played a full 40 minute basketball game yesterday and had an asthma attack after. Spent 3 hours doing breathing exercises and used my rescue inhaler. Finally the wheezing started to let up just before bed. It’s no bueno, can’t think straight when you’re low on oxygen either.

 

[krichunaka]

Was it?

I'm confident that Deer Park knows of what he speaks; <<(just for you, Lucy) and I'm also of your opinion that the brand name product was not a good go-to, especially just before game time. I speak from experience here. Those things knock me out for hours. As a young teen, and pre-teen our now 35-year-old son literally carried his inhaler onto the football practice field; all that sweat and grass! Serious and breathtaking (pun intended) stuff!

I think glv98, you, sir, and others in this group, have personal or even professional experience(s) with allergies, asthma, and related conditions. It sure ain't fun. My most discomforting events were of the West Coast variety. Those of you who have flown into the bay area, Orange County, etc., have doubtless had a bird's eye view of that smokey/smoggy, soupy haze that practically blankets the most-populated parts of that state for extended time periods. Add in the blinding San Joquin Valley Tule Fog, and things can really head south in a hurry, so, I have usually fared better here, than there. Go figure.

Anyhow, there's just so much to consider, and I think CoachJumper hinted at a possible "other" concern. I'm not sure of which "virus" he was speaking, but I hope, as I'm sure he does, that Rickea's is a "normal" case of local allergies/asthma, which is bad enough, but considering the other potential symptoms - micro-clotting or similar constrictions ...well, I trust that our lovely All-American, Rickea, is in good hands, and that the Athletic/Medical departments are giving this top priority.
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Madtown, it's nice to read of your children's successful endeavors. Didn't one of them actually get to play in Europe? Did you get to go watch, or were the risks/restrictions too much a hurdle? Here's to continued good blessings!

And, to better health to you VolBall09.

Cheers, to ALL!

 

[madtownvol]

I'm confident that Deer Park knows of what he speaks; <<(just for you, Lucy) and I'm also of your opinion that the brand name product was not a good go-to, especially just before game time. I speak from experience here. Those things knock me out for hours. As a young teen, and pre-teen our now 35-year-old son literally carried his inhaler onto the football practice field; all that sweat and grass! Serious and breathtaking (pun intended) stuff!

I think glv98, you, sir, and others in this group, have personal or even professional experience(s) with allergies, asthma, and related conditions. It sure ain't fun. My most discomforting events were of the West Coast variety. Those of you who have flown into the bay area, Orange County, etc., have doubtless had a bird's eye view of that smokey/smoggy, soupy haze that practically blankets the most-populated parts of that state for extended time periods. Add in the blinding San Joquin Valley Tule Fog, and things can really head south in a hurry, so, I have usually fared better here, than there. Go figure.

Anyhow, there's just so much to consider, and I think CoachJumper hinted at a possible "other" concern. I'm not sure of which "virus" he was speaking, but I hope, as I'm sure he does, that Rickea's is a "normal" case of local allergies/asthma, which is bad enough, but considering the other potential symptoms - micro-clotting or similar constrictions ...well, I trust that our lovely All-American, Rickea, is in good hands, and that the Athletic/Medical departments are giving this top priority.
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Madtown, it's nice to read of your children's successful endeavors. Didn't one of them actually get to play in Europe? Did you get to go watch, or were the risks/restrictions too much a hurdle? Here's to continued good blessings!

And, to better health to you VolBall09.

Cheers, to ALL!

Hi Krich, My son graduate and embarked on his professional journey right as the covid shut downs were imposed. He had a limited contract with a 3rd division team in Spain that got rescinded because of travel bans. He wound up playing for different teams in NISA and USL for three years but unfortunately had a lot of injury issues that kept setting him back. He will be starting dental school next year and hopes to keep playing at a reasonably high amateur level (time allowing).

My daughter's situation is similar except she had a torn hip labrum right when she was embarking on her post-college, pro-career journey and then had some post-surgical complications afterward. The long term risks of high intensity comp. were too high and she is now in grad school.

Both had to manage asthma throughout their playing days to boot.

More info than you probably wanted but that is the story.

 

[glv98]

I think glv98, you, sir, and others in this group, have personal or even professional experience(s) with allergies, asthma, and related conditions.

You're sweet to remember. My professional experience is more critical care related respiratory therapy. Emergency intubation, vent mgmt, etc. Treatment of allergies and asthma is much more specialized of course. But having that background is one reason I don't want to speculate too much on this case nor on TKs blood clots. You can go crazy speculating off everything you've ever seen and still not be close.

I also have confidence all involved are doing their best to keep RJ's symptoms under control. I just wish she could have a stretch where she can just play free of any nagging issues.

 

[Decker Moss]

What did you want her to do? Hug it out and listen to whatever CKH had to say? Neither owe each other anything. She didnt walk off the court, that would be immature.

I just wonder what happened. She was so high on Kellie from the beginning. Called Kellie “her coach” while still in high school

 

[madtownvol]

Without Key in fourth quarter we loose

And with Rickea, we probably would have won easily. But all that matters is they got the win. Losing to Vandy on the We Back Pat week would have stung and this board would have been ablaze.

 

[chuckiepoo]

And with Rickea, we probably would have won easily. But all that matters is they got the win. Losing to Vandy on the We Back Pat week would have stung and this board would have been ablaze.

…couches burning ever whar

 

[LV renaissance]

One thing I love about watching a basketball team closely over the years is that you really see the full gamut of life played out in terms of dealing with adversity, confidence issues, success, self-consciousness, and dealing with your coach and teammates. I take almost as much pleasure seeing unexpected growth in players in skills and in the mental aspects of the sport, as my team winning. It is especially cool when it is happening in the context of a team rebounding from adversity.
The skill growth of Wynn, Rickea, and Powell among others has been great to see. Perhaps even more rewarding on a human level is seeing players like Puckett and Powell show emotional resiliency and confidence after having such a seemingly difficult time in these areas last year. I hope Jillian can get some guidance from Powell and Puckett, as she seems to be going through a really tough period regarding her confidence in basketball. It seems to be getting worse to the point of near paralysis on offense. You can see the doubt going on in her mind in terms of whether she should she pass, drive in and take a shot, dribble, and so forth in excruciating slow motion. I sure hope that she will become the next Powell and Puckett in terms of regaining confidence and meet her basketball potential.

 

[glv98]

One thing I love about watching a basketball team closely over the years is that you really see the full gamut of life played out in terms of dealing with adversity, confidence issues, success, self-consciousness, and dealing with your coach and teammates. I take almost as much pleasure seeing unexpected growth in players in skills and in the mental aspects of the sport, as my team winning. It is especially cool when it is happening in the context of a team rebounding from adversity.
The skill growth of Wynn, Rickea, and Powell among others has been great to see. Perhaps even more rewarding on a human level is seeing players like Pucket and Powell show emotional resiliency and confidence after having such a seemingly difficult time in these areas last year. I hope Jillian can get some guidance from Powell and Puckett, as she seems to be going through a really tough period regarding her confidence in basketball. It seems to be getting worse to the point of ear paralysis on offense. You can see the doubt going on in her mind in terms of whether she should she pass, drive in and take a shot, dribble, and so forth in excruciating slow motion. I sure hope that she will become the next Powell and Puckett in terms of regaining confidence and meet her basketball potential.

Great post. Yesterday I thought about that picture of Kellie hugging JP when she came out of a game last year, a really long hug. JP had been struggling mightily but that night had a really good game. This is what KJH does SO well, and why it's such a shame if she can't get the other parts done. Same thing w her patience w TK, and lord knows, w Jordan Horston.

No doubt, Jill is very much in need of this coaching care right now. The hesitency yesterday was just painful.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Great post. Yesterday I thought about that picture of Kellie hugging JP when she came out of a game last year, a really long hug. JP had been struggling mightily but that night had a really good game. This is what KJH does SO well, and why it's such a shame if she can't get the other parts done. Same thing w her patience w TK, and lord knows, w Jordan Horston.

No doubt, Jill is very much in need of this coaching care right now. The hesitency yesterday was just painful.

Jill doesn't respond to luvy-duvy coaching
she has to be challenged and "talked to"
She will struggle with Kellie until she finds someone in the mix who can read her

 

[glv98]

Jill doesn't respond to luvy-duvy coaching
she has to be challenged and "talked to"
She will struggle with Kellie until she finds someone in the mix who can read her

For the eight millionth time, just bc we see luvy-duvy doesn't mean other coaching doesn't happen. In fact I'm sure it does. Just today Coach Sam tweeted about how hard she's been on JP. Like most things in life, it's a combination of approaches that gets the job done.

 

[LV renaissance]

Great post. Yesterday I thought about that picture of Kellie hugging JP when she came out of a game last year, a really long hug. JP had been struggling mightily but that night had a really good game. This is what KJH does SO well, and why it's such a shame if she can't get the other parts done. Same thing w her patience w TK, and lord knows, w Jordan Horston.

No doubt, Jill is very much in need of this coaching care right now. The hesitency yesterday was just painful.

This is where Kellie is at her best. I remember that hug between Powell and Kellie well, and how it made me realize that it was very likely that Powell would come back and possibly be better this year.

 

[glv98]

This is where Kellie is at her best. I remember that hug between Powell and Kellie well, and how it made me realize that it was very likely that Powell would come back and possibly be better this year.

I think playing w Jordan Walker last year really helped JP as well. Similar mentalities.

 

[Lucy]

Jill doesn't respond to luvy-duvy coaching
she has to be challenged and "talked to"
She will struggle with Kellie until she finds someone in the mix who can read her

And you know this how? You are not associated in anyway with the program. If I remember correctly the players have been warned about you and you got into some weird social media tiff with Rikea over pictures and ended up apologizing.
Your basketball knowledge is enough on here. Your inferences that you are involved with the players isn’t needed or believed.