Gators hot for Franklin

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GayturdCountry.com thread on top 3 coaching candidates is full of love for Franklin after Muschamp gets canned.

Of course Chuckie, Cowher, Stoops, and even Spurrier show up...but most are saying Franklin.
 
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VolMax said:
GayturdCountry.com thread on top 3 coaching candidates is full of love for Franklin after Muschamp gets canned.

Of course Chuckie, Cowher, Stoops, and even Spurrier show up...but most are saying Franklin.
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Wow! I really hate Franklin and I really hate the Gators....Put the two together and this game takes on an whole new meaning for me.
 
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Gators could do better than Franklin. He's a good coach, but they could get someone elite.
 
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bamawriter said:
Couldn't disagree more. Franklin has proven himself to be a really good coach. Kiffin hadn't proven anything of the kind when UT picked him up.
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yep good OC maybe but he hadnt done a damn thing as a head coach franklin has managed to make vandy better every yr

i think franklin would be a damn good hire there is no 12-0 coaches out there we can get like urban
 
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bamawriter said:
Couldn't disagree more. Franklin has proven himself to be a really good coach. Kiffin hadn't proven anything of the kind when UT picked him up.
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I agree completely. He's done a phenomenal job at Vandy. Any major program wanting a proven coach should seriously consider him at this point.
 
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As long as all of Franklin's opponents are either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over to him multiple times per game, UF would be in good hands with him at the helm.

I say go for it!

Oh... And you'd be guaranteed hot coaching staff wives.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
As long as all of Franklin's opponents are either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over to him multiple times per game, UF would be in good hands with him at the helm.
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It's amazing how lucky Franklin is. What are the odds that his three years in Nashville would be the only stretch since the 20s when Vandy's opponents have been either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over multiple times per game? It's just stunning that Franklin lucked into taking over Vanderbilt during one of the worst eras in SEC history.

Wait...
 
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bamawriter said:
It's amazing how lucky Franklin is. What are the odds that his three years in Nashville would be the only stretch since the 20s when Vandy's opponents have been either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over multiple times per game? It's just stunning that Franklin lucked into taking over Vanderbilt during one of the worst eras in SEC history.

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It's called butthurt...............I see that you recognize it as well
 
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bamawriter said:
It's amazing how lucky Franklin is. What are the odds that his three years in Nashville would be the only stretch since the 20s when Vandy's opponents have been either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over multiple times per game? It's just stunning that Franklin lucked into taking over Vanderbilt during one of the worst eras in SEC history.

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It absolutely is the worst year in the history of the SEC East and there is no question that Vandy has been the biggest beneficiary of Tennessee's collapse. Also, there is no other way to describe the way the Auburn game has fallen on Vandy's schedule other than sheer luck. We will see how sustainable it is if Franklin sticks around - which I highly doubt.
 
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I ask because I don't know, but do head coaches have to sign non competes, at least pertaining to conference schools?
 
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bamawriter said:
It's amazing how lucky Franklin is. What are the odds that his three years in Nashville would be the only stretch since the 20s when Vandy's opponents have been either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over multiple times per game? It's just stunning that Franklin lucked into taking over Vanderbilt during one of the worst eras in SEC history.

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I can't wait until Auburn takes your SEC and national championship dreams and crushes them.

I give it a 50/50 shot.

Now FSU will put a hurtin on you....either way, you're screwed.
 
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Vol4life25 said:
I can't wait until Auburn takes your SEC and national championship dreams and crushes them.

I give it a 50/50 shot.

Now FSU will put a hurtin on you....either way, you're screwed.
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Given your previous prognostications, you just made me feel even better about Bama's chances.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I honestly think a big program going after Franklin will be like us going after Kiffin.
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Except Franklin's winning 9 games at Vandy. I can't stand the guy and his antics but I'm done questioning his coaching/motivating ability. We haven't beaten UGA, UF and Vandy in the same season since 2004. It took him all of 3 yrs.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's amazing how lucky Franklin is. What are the odds that his three years in Nashville would be the only stretch since the 20s when Vandy's opponents have been either rebuilding, hurt by injuries, or turn the ball over multiple times per game? It's just stunning that Franklin lucked into taking over Vanderbilt during one of the worst eras in SEC history.

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Are you claiming that Franklin has beaten any one of those teams while they were at full strength?

In 2011, he beat Ole Miss and UK.
In 2012, he beat abysmal, Missu, Kentucky, Ole MIss, Auburn and UT teams.
In 2013, he beat a depleted UGA, and abysmal UF, UT and UK teams. (He struggled against that abysmal UK team, and needed a late charge to win against that abysmal UT team, by the way).

Stated like that, it does look as though he walked into a VERY fortunate state of the SEC East.

I'm not saying he's a bad coach. I am saying he has not proven that he is worthy of the jobs he's being hyped for, and I'd rather see UF get an unproven coach than someone who has proven he'd come in and return UF to beasts in the SEC.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Except Franklin's winning 9 games at Vandy. I can't stand the guy and his antics but I'm doing questioning his coaching/motivating ability. We haven't beaten UGA, UF and Vandy in the same season since 2004. It took him all of 3 yrs.
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So, let me follow your logic... Because UT sucks, Franklin is a great coach?
 
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BearCat204 said:
It's called butthurt...............I see that you recognize it as well
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How do you figure? I have made no excuse for Vandy's win, except to state plainly that UT is abysmal. How does that equate to butthurt?

As to how that pertains to Franklin's coaching ability and proven fitness for a UF job, Vandy struggled mightily against UT's abysmal team. UF is so sure that's the guy they want to bring in and face UT as UT begins to bring in top-10 classes again?

I don't think so.
 
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This constant mentioning of his playing teams not at full strength is dumb. What team is ever at full strength or doesn't have important players out due to injury? A win is a win.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Are you claiming that Franklin has beaten any one of those teams while they were at full strength?

In 2011, he beat Ole Miss and UK.
In 2012, he beat abysmal, Missu, Kentucky, Ole MIss, Auburn and UT teams.
In 2013, he beat a depleted UGA, and abysmal UF, UT and UK teams. (He struggled against that abysmal UK team, and needed a late charge to win against that abysmal UT team, by the way).

Stated like that, it does look as though he walked into a VERY fortunate state of the SEC East.

I'm not saying he's a bad coach. I am saying he has not proven that he is worthy of the jobs he's being hyped for, and I'd rather see UF get an unproven coach than someone who has proven he'd come in and return UF to beasts in the SEC.
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Let me try to simplify this for you:

HE. DID. IT. AT. VANDERBILT.

Has he beaten a world beater? No. Has he been fortunate with some of the matchups? Absolutely. But every Vandy coach before him lost under similar circumstances. Before Franklin, it did not matter how beat up or mediocre a team was, that team still beat Vandy.

I get why you don't like the guy. I get why you don't respect the guy. But if you don't understand why everyone outside of the UT fanbase likes and respects him, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Are you claiming that Franklin has beaten any one of those teams while they were at full strength?

In 2011, he beat Ole Miss and UK.
In 2012, he beat abysmal, Missu, Kentucky, Ole MIss, Auburn and UT teams.
In 2013, he beat a depleted UGA, and abysmal UF, UT and UK teams. (He struggled against that abysmal UK team, and needed a late charge to win against that abysmal UT team, by the way).

Stated like that, it does look as though he walked into a VERY fortunate state of the SEC East.

I'm not saying he's a bad coach. I am saying he has not proven that he is worthy of the jobs he's being hyped for, and I'd rather see UF get an unproven coach than someone who has proven he'd come in and return UF to beasts in the SEC.
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I would echo this and also add that at the height of Vandy's success and Tennessee's all time low point Franklin is getting his ass handed to him on the recruiting trail in his own backyard. Hurd, Barnett, Gaulden and Wharton are committed to Tenn and Malone has ruled out Vandy a long time ago. We did not want Emmanuel Smith and as far as I know Sawyers is their only commitment that had an offer from Tennessee. Our commitment list is filled with guys that had offers from Vandy but never even considered them. Franklin's recruiting prowess is a myth. The product he took over from Bobby Johnson (including Matthews) was really not that bad.
 
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bamawriter said:
Let me try to simplify this for you:

HE. DID. IT. AT. VANDERBILT.

Has he beaten a world beater? No. Has he been fortunate with some of the matchups? Absolutely. But every Vandy coach before him lost under similar circumstances. Before Franklin, it did not matter how beat up or mediocre a team was, that team still beat Vandy.

I'm get why you don't like the guy. I get why you don't respect the guy. But if you don't understand why everyone outside of the UT fanbase likes and respects him, then I don't know what to tell you.
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You should be more careful with those words you are using... The word "every" means something in debates-- similar to "never", "always", etc... Vandy was coming off of a bowl appearance just three years before Franklin got there. Vandy coaches before Franklin beat UT-- sometimes when we were down, sometimes when we weren't.

But back to my point... It seems to me that USCw, UF, Texas... They will be looking for coaches with better credentials than, "well, it's Vandy; he was supposed to lose against good competition"...
 
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