gay day for schools

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emainvol said:
if this has no business in school, then neither do optional prayer circles.
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the prayer circles are praying for those in bondage of homosexuality....a young innocent child never needs to be exposed to this
 
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I40VOL said:
the prayer circles are praying for those in bondage of homosexuality....a young innocent child never needs to be exposed to this
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you can't force your morality on the masses, a good number don't agree with you.

Further, this is held at middle and high schools, those children all know what a homosexual is long before they are ever given the option to participate in the Day of Silence.
 
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emainvol said:
you can't force your morality on the masses, a good number don't agree with you.

Further, this is held at middle and high schools, those children all know what a homosexual is long before they are ever given the option to participate in the Day of Silence.
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i'd say more agree than not, just go back and read the thread...futhermore my child is one year from middle school and he has no idea what a homosexual is and the longer he doesn't the better. why things are so hard for you to understand is beyond me...how you think a innocent child should be exposed to this is unbelievable...very sad
 
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I40VOL said:
i'd say more agree than not, just go back and read the thread...futhermore my child is one year from middle school and he has no idea what a homosexual is and the longer he doesn't the better. why things are so hard for you to understand is beyond me...how you think a innocent child should be exposed to this is unbelievable...very sad
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What's to worry about? If your child is gay, he's gay. If he isn't, he isn't. Being "exposed" will do nothing but expand his knowledge of the different types of people in the world.
 
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OWB said:
What's to worry about? If your child is gay, he's gay. If he isn't, he isn't. Being "exposed" will do nothing but expand his knowledge of the different types of people in the world.
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he'll get exposed at some time but an older age when he can comprehend what he hears is better
 
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I40VOL said:
i'd say more agree than not, just go back and read the thread...futhermore my child is one year from middle school and he has no idea what a homosexual is and the longer he doesn't the better. why things are so hard for you to understand is beyond me...how you think a innocent child should be exposed to this is unbelievable...very sad
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Oh yeah, the 5 people that agree with you on an internet message board are a great sample size.

As for my understanding of the topic, you do know what the Day of Silence is right? Surely you wouldn't be presenting your passionate argument without at least reading up a bit.
 
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emainvol said:
Oh yeah, the 5 people that agree with you on an internet message board are a great sample size.

As for my understanding of the topic, you do know what the Day of Silence is right? Surely you wouldn't be presenting your passionate argument without at least reading up a bit.
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i'd be willing to say that here in the town that i live in, if this was presented here, it would take about 5 minutes to close the case...not going to argue, i just strongly disagree...and the last time i checked..i still had the right to my opinion. :thumbsup:
 
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I40VOL said:
i'd be willing to say that here in the town that i live in, if this was presented here, it would take about 5 minutes to close the case...not going to argue, i just strongly disagree...and the last time i checked..i still had the right to my opinion. :thumbsup:
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then why do you seem to not think I do. Just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean I don't understand. Think about that next time.

And if the town you live in doesn't want to participate, they have that option, much like the kids in the schools that do participate.
 
#62
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emainvol said:
How much money does it cost you to not say a word for 8 hours?
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I have not once tried to insult your intelligence so please do not try to insult mine. Are you going to argue that no costs were incurred (and as I've stated before, "too much" starts at about 1 cent) by the taxpayers to implement this project? If I buy my friend a beer the beer wasn't free, he just wasn't the one paying the tab for it. What it costs a kid to show up to school and be quiet has nothing whatsoever to do with my argument against this, OR ANY, pet political project that gets stuffed into school time but has nothing to do with education. If it makes you feel better to think I'm railing against some right-wing political project that's on school time and the taxpayer's tab then do that, my attitude is the same. When our nation's test scores get back up to the top maybe we can afford to be more frivolous with our time and money.
 
#63
#63
How come im in school and have never heard of this so called gay day... If it is so much mentioned at my school it will be laughed out of the building, and followed by Hooping and Hollering in the halls!... I dont support gay rights in the least and am not about to participate in a project to support gays... Just for the record I dont hate gays, just the sin.
 
#64
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emainvol said:
you can't force your morality on the masses, a good number don't agree with you.

Further, this is held at middle and high schools, those children all know what a homosexual is long before they are ever given the option to participate in the Day of Silence.
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Emainvol are you actually from Tennessee? You should no this kind of day is not going to be widely accepted, its pure nonsense, I think its a shame that they try and teach children to be accepting of the homosexual lifestyle
 
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bigtime said:
Emainvol are you actually from Tennessee? You should no this kind of day is not going to be widely accepted, its pure nonsense, I think its a shame that they try and teach children to be accepting of the homosexual lifestyle
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I believe that it is intended to be less about acceptance of the lifestyle and more about understanding the pain and difficulties those who live this lifestyle face. There are a lot of people out there who do not only choose not to accept their lifestyle...but they also choose not to accept the individuals as humans..and as a result do and say horrible things.
 
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emainvol said:
Are you seriously telling me that this isn't another example of overblown fundamentalist Christian crap? I have absolutely no problem with religion, until it delves into bigotry. That is what this is.

I am also sure that 99% of the kids that go to these schools know exactly what homosexuality is, and I don't think it is a bad thing for kids to learn about the wrongs of prejudice and discrimination from anyone, especially parents and the educators that they see every day.
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Which makes sense that you're an Obama supporter, you think the government can and should handle these issues, not the parent. It is not for you or anyone else to decide what my child should be exposed to. Should I be mandated to make my child watch the Logo network? To make her understand the gay lifestyle? And it's funny how when any religious group comes into play, it's automaticaly bigotry. If you're going to have the issue, you should allow whoever doesn't want to participate to do so, not single them out by writing a paper (which is ironic considering the topic.. you know, kids shouldn't be singled out).
 
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emainvol said:
you can't force your morality on the masses, a good number don't agree with you.

Further, this is held at middle and high schools, those children all know what a homosexual is long before they are ever given the option to participate in the Day of Silence.
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You can't force YOUR morailty on anyone either. Liberals can be such hypocrites.
 
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TennTradition said:
I believe that it is intended to be less about acceptance of the lifestyle and more about understanding the pain and difficulties those who live this lifestyle face. There are a lot of people out there who do not only choose not to accept their lifestyle...but they also choose not to accept the individuals as humans..and as a result do and say horrible things.
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Then why limit to gays? What about people who are discriminated against because of color? Or what about handicapped people? Or what about a whole day of silence for the soldiers who have died in Iraq? If the school didn't just concentrate on the one issue, I would agree with you... however, that's not the case.
 
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OWB said:
What's to worry about? If your child is gay, he's gay. If he isn't, he isn't. Being "exposed" will do nothing but expand his knowledge of the different types of people in the world.
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So I guess I'm a terrible parent for not wanting my child to learn about homosexuality in the classroom? Thanks for letting me know, I wasn't aware.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Then why limit to gays? What about people who are discriminated against because of color? Or what about handicapped people? Or what about a whole day of silence for the soldiers who have died in Iraq? If the school didn't just concentrate on the one issue, I would agree with you... however, that's not the case.
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So, schools never spend time honoring the troops, sending letters, banners, etc.? And...do schools no longer recognize Martin Luther King Day and discuss the struggles that African Americans have (and do) face?
 
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TennTradition said:
So, schools never spend time honoring the troops, sending letters, banners, etc.? And...do schools no longer recognize Martin Luther King Day and discuss the struggles that African Americans have (and do) face?
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Are they making a whole day for it? And are they having a day or silence? Nope. They're trying to make an issue that is best left at hoome, please don't try to decide what my daughter needs to be exposed to. Why limit it to gays? The feeling is if you're opposed to this, you support violence against gays, and that's simply not the case.
 
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#73
hndog609 said:
I have not once tried to insult your intelligence so please do not try to insult mine. Are you going to argue that no costs were incurred (and as I've stated before, "too much" starts at about 1 cent) by the taxpayers to implement this project? If I buy my friend a beer the beer wasn't free, he just wasn't the one paying the tab for it. What it costs a kid to show up to school and be quiet has nothing whatsoever to do with my argument against this, OR ANY, pet political project that gets stuffed into school time but has nothing to do with education. If it makes you feel better to think I'm railing against some right-wing political project that's on school time and the taxpayer's tab then do that, my attitude is the same. When our nation's test scores get back up to the top maybe we can afford to be more frivolous with our time and money.
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First, that was not a shot at you.

Second, yes, I am going to argue that nothing that would have been used towards education has been spent in promoting this. This is a non-profit organization who promotes this program through volunteers inside the school. Think of the GLSEN as more of an extracurricular. This is no different than the FCA doing anything on a campus.
 
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#74
emainvol said:
I am not being hypocritical, simply arguing a point. The whole point of my argument is that nothing is being forced on anyone.
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But do you not get my point about the whole "writing a paper" deal? I'm not sure about today, but when I was in high school, any event during school hours that had any kind of prayer in it always had kids that chose not to participate. They could go to some other place while the functionw as going on. If they had to write a paper on why they didn't participate, the ACLU would have been all over it. That's one of my beefs with this.

EDIT: Just notcied your post about the FCA, that's what I was using as an example. No one was forced to write a paper if they didn't participate.
 
#75
#75
volsforever27 said:
Which makes sense that you're an Obama supporter, you think the government can and should handle these issues, not the parent. It is not for you or anyone else to decide what my child should be exposed to. Should I be mandated to make my child watch the Logo network? To make her understand the gay lifestyle? And it's funny how when any religious group comes into play, it's automaticaly bigotry. If you're going to have the issue, you should allow whoever doesn't want to participate to do so, not single them out by writing a paper (which is ironic considering the topic.. you know, kids shouldn't be singled out).
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You are putting words into my mouth.

And yes, I do absolutely think that tolerance should be taught in schools as well as at home.

My calling this bigotry is simply calling a spade a spade. The fundamentalists make it really easy to call them out on bigotry, because a good percentage of them are simply bigots.

I fail to see what this has to do with the government directly.
 
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