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#76
#76
just living in reality, not fantasyland.
Yeah, that's what I thought......No reality is this: We're not going to win the SEC East every year, we're not going to win the National Championship every year, like people like you are expecting Fulmer to do.....You're going to have good teams that don't accomplish what they should and bad teams that are gonna accomplish things that they shouldn't(occasionally) you "champ" are living in fantasy land, not me
 
#77
#77
Yeah, that's what I thought......No reality is this: We're not going to win the SEC East every year, we're not going to win the National Championship every year, like people like you are expecting Fulmer to do.....You're going to have good teams that don't accomplish what they should and bad teams that are gonna accomplish things that they shouldn't(occasionally) you "champ" are living in fantasy land, not me

not winning the SEC in almost a decade is not every other year. i'm not worried about a NC. most fans expect a SEC championship every once in awhile. fulmer just can't make it happen.
 
#78
#78
Yeah, that's what I thought......No reality is this: We're not going to win the SEC East every year, we're not going to win the National Championship every year, like people like you are expecting Fulmer to do.....You're going to have good teams that don't accomplish what they should and bad teams that are gonna accomplish things that they shouldn't(occasionally) you "champ" are living in fantasy land, not me

I don't think anybody expects an SEC Title every year, but don't you feel like our program should be winning 1 every 8 years at least?
 
#79
#79
It can be pretty funny, I agree. Some of us like you and me have been here all season. I'm just really torn at the moment.
I'm not....I will say this.....If we have another season like 2005, yeah maybe then it is time to look at Fulmer and see if he needs to be fired.....Give him another 3 years and if hasn't pulled off and SEC East championship then look at letting him go....But when you get to the SECCG you can't really ask for much more except to win....It's going to happen again guys, we'll have the talent in a couple of years....Maybe even next year
 
#80
#80
I'm not....I will say this.....If we have another season like 2005, yeah maybe then it is time to look at Fulmer and see if he needs to be fired.....Give him another 3 years and if hasn't pulled off and SEC East championship then look at letting him go....But when you get to the SECCG you can't really ask for much more except to win....It's going to happen again guys, we'll have the talent in a couple of years....Maybe even next year

in my opinion 3 years is way to long.
 
#81
#81
I don't think anybody expects an SEC Title every year, but don't you feel like our program should be winning 1 every 8 years at least?
Most definitely but I mean we got beat by 2 superior teams, I didn't think then and I definitely don't think now that Florida is better than us..... But Arkansas and LSU are......I really don't know so much about LSU but they were the best team in the stadium that day.....I realize we have a prestigous program and one full of pride.....I mean this is the first time Florida has been in the SECCG since 2000....I say just give him another 2-3 years and then look at it, until then leave him be
 
#82
#82
I'm not....I will say this.....If we have another season like 2005, yeah maybe then it is time to look at Fulmer and see if he needs to be fired.....Give him another 3 years and if hasn't pulled off and SEC East championship then look at letting him go....But when you get to the SECCG you can't really ask for much more except to win....It's going to happen again guys, we'll have the talent in a couple of years....Maybe even next year

I don't understand, though. Why should we wait for 11 years total for an SEC Title? We've been "waiting" for 5 years now. I know we won't win a title every year, or even every OTHER year. But come on, 8-11 years is wayyyyy too long. That's why I'm upset.
 
#83
#83
Everyone is frustrated. No honest fan can say they're entirely satisfied. However, it gets old listening to the same tired complaints, fire Fulmer, blah blah blah, but no solutions.

Champy, I respect your feelings, but don't just gripe. Give us suggestions to who should be running our program if not Fulmer . . .
 
#84
#84
I don't understand, though. Why should we wait for 11 years total for an SEC Title? We've been "waiting" for 5 years now. I know we won't win a title every year, or even every OTHER year. But come on, 8-11 years is wayyyyy too long. That's why I'm upset.

that is why i'm upset too.
 
#86
#86
Everyone is frustrated. No honest fan can say they're entirely satisfied. However, it gets old listening to the same tired complaints, fire Fulmer, blah blah blah, but no solutions.

Champy, I respect your feelings, but don't just gripe. Give us suggestions to who should be running our program if not Fulmer . . .

i've said at the beginning of the year i thought butch davis would look great in orange. proven recruiter, great coach. he could take us to the next level. steve marriuci ( i butchered that i know) would also be a great coach. rutgers head coach would also be a great choice. any of the 3 could in my opinion coach rings around fulmer. the first 2 though would demand heafty pay though. they all could get us back to sec greatness.
 
#87
#87
i've said at the beginning of the year i thought butch davis would look great in orange. proven recruiter, great coach. he could take us to the next level. steve marriuci ( i butchered that i know) would also be a great coach. rutgers head coach would also be a great choice. any of the 3 could in my opinion coach rings around fulmer. the first 2 though would demand heafty pay though. they all could get us back to sec greatness.

Of those three, the only one I would want is the Rutgers coach.
 
#89
#89
what is wrong with the other 2.

i just think if we go get another coach one of these days, we want a young energetic coach with a lot of drive. i'm not sure a former NFL coach will have that passion for the college game again. could be wrong.
 
#90
#90
i just think if we go get another coach one of these days, we want a young energetic coach with a lot of drive. i'm not sure a former NFL coach will have that passion for the college game again. could be wrong.

i also like the rutgers coach #1. he is young and energetic. he would look good in orange.
 
#91
#91
Newsflash dude, we won't/haven't/ don't have the talent like the 98 team did
I guess the coaching staff isn't in charge of recruiting anymore? You'll probably blame our mediocre recruiting on our terrible fans. I know I personally caused Darren McFadden to go to Arkansas instead of UT. It's Lexvol's fault we can't recruit any offensive linemen that can play. Hillbilly ran off all of the good defensive linemen. I don't know how the coaching staff has managed to post a sterling record of 12-9 the last two years with all these obstacles.
 
#92
#92
i just think if we go get another coach one of these days, we want a young energetic coach with a lot of drive. i'm not sure a former NFL coach will have that passion for the college game again. could be wrong.
Yeah, Pete Carroll came from the NFL and just ruined SC. Very insightful point.
 
#93
#93
I guess the coaching staff isn't in charge of recruiting anymore? You'll probably blame our mediocre recruiting on our terrible fans. I know I personally caused Darren McFadden to go to Arkansas instead of UT. It's Lexvol's fault we can't recruit any offensive linemen that can play. Hillbilly ran off all of the good defensive linemen. I don't know how the coaching staff has managed to post a sterling record of 12-9 the last two years with all these obstacles.

hat i guess you can blame me for running off all the o-line recruits.:)
 
#94
#94
I guess the coaching staff isn't in charge of recruiting anymore? You'll probably blame our mediocre recruiting on our terrible fans. I know I personally caused Darren McFadden to go to Arkansas instead of UT. It's Lexvol's fault we can't recruit any offensive linemen that can play. Hillbilly ran off all of the good defensive linemen. I don't know how the coaching staff has managed to post a sterling record of 12-9 the last two years with all these obstacles.
Quit putting words in my mouth...Where in any of my posts did I EVER say that our fans were the reason we can't get good recruits...NEVER
 
#95
#95
Quit putting words in my mouth...Where in any of my posts did I EVER say that our fans were the reason we can't get good recruits...NEVER
According to you, the coaches are blameless. Hence, there has to be a reason the program is declining. Therefore, given how terrible you say our fans are, it's logical to assume that's the problem.
 
#96
#96
I don't read Auburn boards, but I bet those idiots from that stupid cow college have not gone over the edge like a lot of "Vol Fans" after they lost to Arkansas in the same way that we did.

If we were having a season like Alabama, losing to Mississippi State (and nearly everyone else), then there would be merit for fans to be yelling "Fire" at the top of their lungs. This simply isn't the case at Tennessee.

Phillip Fulmer is the main reason all of our players chose to come to Tennessee. This man has more class than any other SEC coach, and the great turn-around we have had this season shows that he is a very smart football coach, bringing in David Cutcliffe, and helping turn around the careers of Ainge, Meachem, and co.

We will finish 9-3, and while it was one more loss than i predicted going into the season, I am still very proud of this football team. The wins over California, Georgia, and Alabama should not be forgotten. While we were outplayed in the Florida and LSU games, we were still in position to win those games. Last night, we were beat by a great team with the best Offensive Coordinator in the SEC not named Cutcliffe.

We will play in a bowl game, and easily win that over whatever Big 10 or ACC team that the committee throws at us. I am mad as anyone over last night's loss, but I am not nearly as delusional as many people who have posted on here in the time since the Arkansas loss.

These NegaVol posters are the exact same people who wanted Crompton to become starter after the first scrimmage where Ainge was lackluster. These posters are not football-savvy, and they show it everytime they post.

Last night, the last thing I wanted to do was come on here due to my anger about the game, but it appears that many of you were very willing to post about your feelings of negativity. If that is the way you let the anger of losing out, power to you. But trying to get rid of coaches, and blaming everybody else associated with the University of Tennessee is irresponsible and stupid.

Randy Sanders' children did not want to go to school last year after the South Carolina game, because they knew that children would come up to them and say, "Your dad sucks," just like those kids had said after the Florida and Alabama games. These coaches have lives, and they devote most of them to Tennessee football, so they are the ones who are mad the most at the lost, not some people with a computer and internet access.

Think before you post!

You cannot seriously compare posting critically on an internet message board to tormenting a coach's children. That is like comparing a speeding ticket to vehicular homicide.
 
#97
#97
According to you, the coaches are blameless. Hence, there has to be a reason the program is declining. Therefore, given how terrible you say our fans are, it's logical to assume that's the problem.
I never once had said that Coach's are blameless....Read some more of my posts(assuming you can read) I've even said give him 2-3 more years and then look at how he's doing....But I guess you know it all....You should quit putting words into people's mouth.....It leads to no good

The only thing I've said about our fans is they come out of the wood works with negativity after we lose to someone......I never once said we had "terrible" fans....Those are your words not mine...fool
 
#98
#98
I never once had said that Coach's are blameless....Read some more of my posts(assuming you can read) I've even said give him 2-3 more years and then look at how he's doing....But I guess you know it all....You should quit putting words into people's mouth.....It leads to no good

The only thing I've said about our fans is they come out of the wood works with negativity after we lose to someone......I never once said we had "terrible" fans....Those are your words not mine...fool

2-3 more years of nothing, i just don't understand.:no:
 
#99
#99
I never once had said that Coach's are blameless....Read some more of my posts(assuming you can read) I've even said give him 2-3 more years and then look at how he's doing....But I guess you know it all....You should quit putting words into people's mouth.....It leads to no good

The only thing I've said about our fans is they come out of the wood works with negativity after we lose to someone......I never once said we had "terrible" fans....Those are your words not mine...fool
Given your Bizarro MENSA credentials, I take all insults from you as compliments. It really exposes your intellect that all you can come up with are third grade quality insults. Maybe there's a remedial board somewhere you can go pollute until you have something useful to say.
 
I never once had said that Coach's are blameless....Read some more of my posts(assuming you can read) I've even said give him 2-3 more years and then look at how he's doing....But I guess you know it all....You should quit putting words into people's mouth.....It leads to no good

The only thing I've said about our fans is they come out of the wood works with negativity after we lose to someone......I never once said we had "terrible" fans....Those are your words not mine...fool

You should probably remove the direct insult from your post. It only hurts your argument.
 

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