Global warming is the new religion of First World urban elites

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#27
Here are two statements issued by GISS:

"2008 was the coolest year since 2000"

"2008 is the 9th warmest year in the period of instrumental measurements"

Anybody with the brain function of plantain knows that somebody agenda driven could run in either direction citing their preferred statement from the same source.*

Frankly, once something becomes openly politicized and there's money to be had I become rampantly skeptical. I can think of no other single topic that better fits my criteria than AGW.

*And even that's just one "take" on the matter since the RSS and UAH satellite data often differ from that of GISS.
 
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IPorange said:
Read the climate section from the same place you got that image. It will aid you. The oceans were stagnant in vertical circulation, and much hotter than today.
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So a warming planet and warmer seas will not always mean that life will perish? The big argument is that if the polar ice caps melt, the earths seas will rise and the oceans will warm. This in turn will cause the atmosphere to heat up because the ice caps stop reflecting light and the ground absorbs the heat. Yada,yada, yada!! Because of this, all life will come to an end. Just like during the Cretaceous Period, when vertically no ice cap was present, even in higher elevations, life flourished. There have been four major Ice Ages on earth, the first beginning about 2 billion years ago. During the second Ice Age(800 million years ago), it is believed the earth was totally covered in ice. So, the earth has gone through natural cooling and warming stages without our help and will continue too. If you need to worry about anything, it should be global cooling not global warming. It is just a natural cycle.
 
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CountVolcula said:
So a warming planet and warmer seas will not always mean that life will perish? The big argument is that if the polar ice caps melt, the earths seas will rise and the oceans will warm. This in turn will cause the atmosphere to heat up because the ice caps stop reflecting light and the ground absorbs the heat. Yada,yada, yada!! Because of this, all life will come to an end. Just like during the Cretaceous Period, when vertically no ice cap was present, even in higher elevations, life flourished. There have been four major Ice Ages on earth, the first beginning about 2 billion years ago. During the second Ice Age(800 million years ago), it is believed the earth was totally covered in ice. So, the earth has gone through natural cooling and warming stages without our help and will continue too. If you need to worry about anything, it should be global cooling not global warming. It is just a natural cycle.
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how about the events that triggered those ice ages. Think those were a bit of a problem for the world's inhabitants.

I'm certainly not on the side of the anthropo warming is going to doom us, but I think it's absurd to pretend that man isn't contributing some small degree to global warming. The debate about whether it matters is where the fight lies and generally what you're talking about.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
how about the events that triggered those ice ages. Think those were a bit of a problem for the world's inhabitants.

I'm certainly not on the side of the anthropo warming is going to doom us, but I think it's absurd to pretend that man isn't contributing some small degree to global warming. The debate about whether it matters is where the fight lies and generally what you're talking about.
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:hi:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
how about the events that triggered those ice ages. Think those were a bit of a problem for the world's inhabitants.

I'm certainly not on the side of the anthropo warming is going to doom us, but I think it's absurd to pretend that man isn't contributing some small degree to global warming. The debate about whether it matters is where the fight lies and generally what you're talking about.
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That is true, but like you said, its minimal. Thats why I try to eat as much beef as I can, so I can help stop global warming.

Cutting the cheese: Cow flatulence fans global warming - Opinion
 
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I don't understand why past climate change is proof positive that current climate change is no big deal. Climate shifts lead to massive changes in ecologies and species arrangements. Whether humans are causing the current shift or not doesn't change that.

Of course, the idea that 6 and change billion humans all over the globe changing the landscape, digging up and pumping out tons and tons of carbon compounds that have been stored for millions of years, and then combusting them into the atmosphere in a way that is unprecedented in geologic history has no significant effect on the world is kind of strange to me too.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Global warming is the new religion of First World urban elites



Thoughts?
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They already have their own religious art.

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Global warming is over........it's now Global climate change, get with the program :)

climate change is a joke. The earth will carry on with or without us. The effect we as humans actually have on the climate is extremely small. Al Gore however is a genius, produce a documentary to scare the media and those that are gullible or not very bright into believing we have a crisis on our hands, then conveniently start a company that sells carbon credits to help " fix the problem". John Coleman (founder of the weather channel) calls it the "greatest scam in history" and says "we should sue Al Gore for fraud". Now all these companies are concerned with going green, which is going to drastically hurt GDP, watch and wait.

I personally don't give a damn about living green, I will drive whatever car I choose, turn my AC as low as I want, and throw plastics away as often as I like. Al Gore can kiss my big orange a**
 
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topnotch03 said:
I personally don't give a damn about living green, I will drive whatever car I choose, turn my AC as low as I want, and throw plastics as often as I like. Al Gore can kiss my big orange a**
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Rebel without a cause.
 
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IPorange said:
I don't understand why past climate change is proof positive that current climate change is no big deal. Climate shifts lead to massive changes in ecologies and species arrangements. Whether humans are causing the current shift or not doesn't change that.

Of course, the idea that 6 and change billion humans all over the globe changing the landscape, digging up and pumping out tons and tons of carbon compounds that have been stored for millions of years, and then combusting them into the atmosphere in a way that is unprecedented in geologic history has no significant effect on the world is kind of strange to me too.
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:hi:

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IPorange said:
I don't understand why past climate change is proof positive that current climate change is no big deal. Climate shifts lead to massive changes in ecologies and species arrangements. Whether humans are causing the current shift or not doesn't change that.

Of course, the idea that 6 and change billion humans all over the globe changing the landscape, digging up and pumping out tons and tons of carbon compounds that have been stored for millions of years, and then combusting them into the atmosphere in a way that is unprecedented in geologic history has no significant effect on the world is kind of strange to me too.
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Hate Cows Not Cars!!!
 
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topnotch03 said:
Global warming is over........it's now Global climate change, get with the program :)

climate change is a joke. The earth will carry on with or without us. Yes, but with different species and ecosystems. It's like you are saying humans can't bring an animal to extinction, or clear cut a forest. The effect we as humans actually have on the climate is extremely small. Source? The Mayans disagree with you. Al Gore however is a genius, produce a documentary to scare the media and those that are gullible or not very bright into believing we have a crisis on our hands, then conveniently start a company that sells carbon credits to help " fix the problem". John Coleman (founder of the weather channel)Wow, that makes him infallible calls it the "greatest scam in history" and says "we should sue Al Gore for fraud". Now all these companies are concerned with going green, which is going to drastically hurt GDP, watch and wait.

I personally don't give a damn about living green, I will drive whatever car I choose, turn my AC as low as I want, and throw plastics away as often as I like. Al Gore can kiss my big orange a** You are quite the ass.
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666 said:
How come you never bring this image out when you get in a religious debate? Oh that's right...
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Why wouldn't I, I have never otherwise that every thing is based on faith.


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Also, my personal belief in God will not bankrupt our country!
 
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IPorange said:
Because there is no evidence... There is a burden of not burying your head in the sand, too.
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I have no problem with global warming, climate change........

You can see it every where.....

To think that man contributes greatly is odd to me.
 
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To think that he doesn't significantly factor in is odd to me.

It's a matter of chemistry and physics.
 
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T-TownVol said:
do away with humans!
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If I mentioned swimmers drowning, you would shout "ban water!"

Fat people eating themselves to death and developing diabetes and heart disease? Ban all food! We should all starve!

Poison ivy a problem? Napalm the Smokies!

Similarly, you have irrationally concluded that the solution is to wipe out all humans. I'll tell you what. You first.


The point I was making is humans are having an effect through our actions. Not that humans should cease to exist.
 
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IPorange said:
To think that he doesn't significantly factor in is odd to me.

It's a matter of chemistry and physics.
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This is what I don't get, Continents, Great Lakes, Caspian Sea, English Channel, Grand Canyon, etc.... all before man could greatly contribute......

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