Golesh may be in conversation at Cincinnati

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robow said:
I think it would be a great move to hire Hooker as a grad assistant to help tutor our quarterbacks since he won't make a roster in NFL next year, as there won't be enough time for him to sufficiently heal and be ready to make a roster. I think he would be a perfect fit as a future coaching position.
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I’d love to see a hire like that. If he does decide he still wants to give playing a go though there’s a lot of stuff he needs to be doing as he recovers and after to prepare. Might be hard to do that and also handle assistant responsibilities, but not sure tbh. It was heart breaking that he went down in that game. He would have probably gotten drafted by at least the mid rounds. His path is harder now but I hope someone gives him a chance next year.
 
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I would hate to see him go, but he has put in the work and deserves his chance if that is his long term goal. He is probably the hardest working assistant coach on this staff and is so in tune with Heuple. That would certainly be hard to emulate with another OC.
 
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utchs81 said:
I would hate to see him go, but he has put in the work and deserves his chance if that is his long term goal. He is probably the hardest working assistant coach on this staff and is so in tune with Heuple. That would certainly be hard to emulate with another OC.
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He stays another 3 years his future would really be bright. SEC experience and probably a Natty, He could coach in the SEC.
 
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I hope he stays but if he leaves, more power to him.
He has been outstanding here and I wish him success wherever he goes.

As long as it’s not alabama, florida, georgia, ect ect……..
 
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Golesh can't afford to wait it out. He did not play college ball and he does not have a family coaching pedigree. Guys like that have no choice but to strike while the iron is hot. That said, he may not get an offer the cycle.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
Cincinnati has become the college football stepping stone to bigger Power 5 jobs.
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Yeah, they have been for awhile. It does indicate that they know how to hire a coach, though. They move to the Big 12 next year. Perhaps that helps them increase their stature and start holding on to some of these coaches.
 
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sjt18 said:
They paid Fickell that. Do you think they'd pay an unproven new coach that?

No. UT won't go $5 million but $2 million. Maybe even $3 million. There is real money in college coaching now and with the portal programs have a LOT more incentive to pay assistants and coordinators.
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This is Heupel's offense. Golesh's value comes as a result of coaching under Heupel. If Golesh leaves, and I expect that at some point soon he will, you don't break the bank trying to keep him. You promote Halzle to OC and keep rolling.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
supposedly he got fired from his alma mater because he would not hit the road to recruit and he enjoyed hanging out at the college haunts in Lincoln. not what Vols need.
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I mean that's a rumor I've read too, but the situation would be very different here. He won't be in charge here, this isn't his alma mater, there won't be anyone here seeing him as some sort of hero come home. It would be all business from a man who has just been humbled. Probably the best time and place for him.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
It’s crazy how far salary has come. You’ve been a fan longer than me but I remember Fulmer’s salary being considered high in 2003 at iirc under 2m. This is an article about Nick Saban in 2004 at LSU where his 2.4m was the highest at the time:

LSU signs Saban to seven-year contract

If you go way back to Neyland he made $750 in 1925.

College football coach salaries: A skyrocketing history - Banner Society
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Kentucky is paying $9mil/year for a coach that has gone 66-58.

32-50 in the SEC.

43% of his SEC wins have been Vandy and Mizzou.

Crazy town salaries these days.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
Who calls the offensive plays Alex Golesh or Coach Heupel?
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I believe Heupel calls the plays but Golesh helps identify potential mismatches and such. Maybe Golesh suggests some and Heupel may change it, not totally sure. I have read a lot on this board that Heupel is the playcaller. I think he also does a bunch of stuff during the week. I would guess they are sort of a team in game planning and developing ideas.

Also Heupel has a ton of details to see to so Golesh maybe does stuff in the classroom and in practices to teach the ideas? Really I’m just speculating. A lot folks say Heupel does the offense, and I have no doubt he is the primary, but I doubt that losing Golesh is like nothing changes.

I think other guys can do the job and Heupel could do it all himself if he needed to, but a set of eyes and ears who understand your system, can teach it, and that you trust takes is still valuable. I’m happy for him if he decides to take the opportunity and believe our offense will be fine.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I think there's also a pension from the NFL if you make 7 years. If I could, I'd stick around for that and who knows, Heinicke bounced around the league and he's found a place as a serviceable backup for an injured starter.
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Believe that only 5 years in the league qualifies for the NFL pension....which I believe Dobbs has met now.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
I believe Heupel calls the plays but Golesh helps identify potential mismatches and such. Maybe Golesh suggests some and Heupel may change it, not totally sure. I have read a lot on this board that Heupel is the playcaller. I think he also does a bunch of stuff during the week. I would guess they are sort of a team in game planning and developing ideas.

Also Heupel has a ton of details to see to so Golesh maybe does stuff in the classroom and in practices to teach the ideas? Really I’m just speculating. A lot folks say Heupel does the offense, and I have no doubt he is the primary, but I doubt that losing Golesh is like nothing changes.

I think other guys can do the job and Heupel could do it all himself if he needed to, but a set of eyes and ears who understand your system, can teach it, and that you trust takes is still valuable. I’m happy for him if he decides to take the opportunity and believe our offense will be fine.
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THe talking heads covered this in one of the games. UT offensive play calling is running 3-4 plays ahead for scenarios and they have just a few seconds to get a call in. In this system, I'd wager the OC and assistants are in the booth feeding this to JH who makes final calls. It's situational, and if plays are producing as planned, the specific play unfolding on the field was decided on two or three plays back. Crazy fast stuff.
 
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