Goodbye BCS, Hello Playoffs

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VolsSportsFan said:
Not going to happen.
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It you went the super conference route, you could have four 16-team conferences. Each conference would have four divisions of four teams. You could play everyone in your division once (three games), one team from the other three divisions, (three games), a recurring conference rival (one game), and three OOC games. That would be a 10 game schedule.

And much like in college basketball, there can be an NCAA tournament for the conference champions and runner-ups (with the champion receiving favorable seeding in a 16-team playoff) and two or three lesser tournaments that would be the equivalent of the NIT or CBA. That would out about 48 teams in a postseason playoff, and I'd watch all the tournaments.

It would kill bowl games, but would give fans and players a chance at more home games. I'd say the final four teams would play at a neutral site.



Edit: I guess the division winners would have to play in a mini playoff to get a conference champion, so it would really be a 32 team playoff I guess.
 
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milohimself said:
Can't remember a time I thought a team outside of the top, maybe four, that deserved a shot at being called "national champs."
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Partially because we've been programmed for years with this nonsensical bowl system that worked 40+ years ago.
 
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I like GA's idea. Everyone has to play a conference championship. The 6-8 winners get seeded and placed in a bracket. Play it out from there.

I guess the seeding process will be subject to debate. Strength of schedule, ect.
 
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dooley2 said:
It you went the super conference route, you could have four 16-team conferences. Each conference would have four divisions of four teams. You could play everyone in your division once (three games), one team from the other three divisions, (three games), a recurring conference rival (one game), and three OOC games. That would be a 10 game schedule.

And much like in college basketball, there can be an NCAA tournament for the conference champions and runner-ups (with the champion receiving favorable seeding in a 16-team playoff) and two or three lesser tournaments that would be the equivalent of the NIT or CBA. That would out about 48 teams in a postseason playoff, and I'd watch all the tournaments.

It would kill bowl games, but would give fans and players a chance at more home games. I'd say the final four teams would play at a neutral site.



Edit: I guess the division winners would have to play in a mini playoff to get a conference champion, so it would really be a 32 team playoff I guess.
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The power conferences aren't going to agree to nix any regular season games because that will mean less home games which means less revenue. Your typical SEC team right now plays 7-8 home games a year.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
I like GA's idea. Everyone has to play a conference championship. The 6-8 winners get seeded and placed in a bracket. Play it out from there.

I guess the seeding process will be subject to debate. Strength of schedule, ect.
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If it were me, I'd just make it regional. If you had 8 conferences, you could have four divisions in the "West" and four in the "East". Then you would only have to worry about seeding four teams, which is much easier.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The power conferences aren't going to agree to nix any regular season games because that will mean less home games which means less revenue. Your typical SEC team right now plays 7-8 home games a year.
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You can nix some of the bad OOC games. Those usually suck anyways. A playoff like that would make a lot more than 4 fcs out of conference games.
 
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GAVol said:
Why don't they just eliminate subjectivity and make everybody get into a conference, play a conference championship game, seed the 6-8 conference winners and go play it off?
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I like this idea

It makes the most sense

That's why it has no chance in hell becoming reality
 
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dooley2 said:
If it were me, I'd just make it regional. If you had 8 conferences, you could have four divisions in the "West" and four in the "East". Then you would only have to worry about seeding four teams, which is much easier.
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It would make it easier on fans to travel as well.
 
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Burger said:
I bet the committee screws somebody who deserves it every year. I can see this being infested with politics. Certain schools will still get in over others like ND. I really can see this being worse than the BCS.
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This. I love the playoff concept, but have always believed the biggest problem with college football is the use of selection committees. A true playoff doesn't depend on so-called experts choosing who deserves to be in.

I hope this playoff system will evolve into a more common-sense format, where teams actually win a spot in the playoffs by winning their conference, not by appealing to a bunch of old fogies whose primary concern is $$$. 4 Conferences, 4 Teams...the way it should be. And that could easily be expanded to 8 teams down the road, fairly, without the biases and prejudices of people with a financial or emotional stake in it.

Get rid of the "experts", get rid of the controversy.
 
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i think the conferences and everything are fine and they should just get rid of 1 non conference game every season and take the top 16 teams. adds one extra month of football. migh thave to get rid of conference championships too. would only add 2 games. seems to work well for D1-AA.
 
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Morpheus said:
This. I love the playoff concept, but have always believed the biggest problem with college football is the use of selection committees. A true playoff doesn't depend on so-called experts choosing who deserves to be in.

I hope this playoff system will evolve into a more common-sense format, where teams actually win a spot in the playoffs by winning their conference, not by appealing to a bunch of old fogies whose primary concern is $$$. 4 Conferences, 4 Teams...the way it should be. And that could easily be expanded to 8 teams down the road, fairly, without the biases and prejudices of people with a financial or emotional stake in it.

Get rid of the "experts", get rid of the controversy.
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You mean Condi Rice, a woman who almost knows nothing about football, gets to pick who plays in the NC. A politician being involved in college football won't make it more corrupt. ;). I think the NFL is predetermined, and the NCAA will be soon enough.
 
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Burger said:
You mean Condi Rice, a woman who almost knows nothing about football, gets to pick who plays in the NC. A politician being involved in college football won't make it more corrupt. ;). I think the NFL is predetermined, and the NCAA will be soon enough.
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I think its been determined that Condi Rice is an avid football enthusiast and follows the game closely. She's also more than capable of conducting rational descion making in group settings. I have no issue with her being on the panel. None.
 
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As I said before, I think we'll be down to four major conferences very soon. I think the Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, and Big XII will be the survivors. So, in my mind, the four team playoff should be the same every year:

Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 12 Champ in the Rose Bowl
SEC Champ vs. Big XII Champ in the Sugar
Winners play at a neutral site as determined by a bidding process

Not unlike what we have starting this year, but without the subjectivity of a selection committee.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
I think its been determined that Condi Rice is an avid football enthusiast and follows the game closely. She's also more than capable of conducting rational descion making in group settings. I have no issue with her being on the panel. None.
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This. At first glance, it seems shady, but the more I learn about her, the more wrong I find out I was for being skeptical.

The worst thing about a human element is a natural bias. Would I put UT in the playoffs every year?


Yes.
 
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Burger said:
You mean Condi Rice, a woman who almost knows nothing about football, gets to pick who plays in the NC. A politician being involved in college football won't make it more corrupt. ;). I think the NFL is predetermined, and the NCAA will be soon enough.
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When you say predetermined, do you mean fully orchestrated or simply influenced?
 
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bamawriter said:
As I said before, I think we'll be down to four major conferences very soon. I think the Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, and Big XII will be the survivors. So, in my mind, the four team playoff should be the same every year:

Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 12 Champ in the Rose Bowl
SEC Champ vs. Big XII Champ in the Sugar
Winners play at a neutral site as determined by a bidding process

Not unlike what we have starting this year, but without the subjectivity of a selection committee.
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It would make more sense to have the Big 12 and the PAC 12 in the Rose Bowl. I know it goes against tradition, but asking a Big 10 champion and fans to travel to basically a home game for the PAC 12 with a championship game on the line is a little unfair. Especially considering the fans will probably want to purchase championship game tickets if the Big 10 wins. You're talking about a huge financial burden.
 
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dooley2 said:
It would make more sense to have the Big 12 and the PAC 12 in the Rose Bowl. I know it goes against tradition, but asking a Big 10 champion and fans to travel to basically a home game for the PAC 12 with a championship game on the line is a little unfair. Especially considering the fans will probably want to purchase championship game tickets if the Big 10 wins. You're talking about a huge financial burden.
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I don't disagree. But allowing the Rose Bowl to carry on that particular tradition would be throwing them the one bone that would erase any potential opposition to the plan.
 
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bamawriter said:
As I said before, I think we'll be down to four major conferences very soon. I think the Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, and Big XII will be the survivors. So, in my mind, the four team playoff should be the same every year:

Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 12 Champ in the Rose Bowl
SEC Champ vs. Big XII Champ in the Sugar
Winners play at a neutral site as determined by a bidding process

Not unlike what we have starting this year, but without the subjectivity of a selection committee.
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Would love to see that happen
 
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I am not optimistic about a playoff. The best team doesn't always win. I thought the BCS was the best solution. We shall see.
 
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dooley2 said:
It would make more sense to have the Big 12 and the PAC 12 in the Rose Bowl. I know it goes against tradition, but asking a Big 10 champion and fans to travel to basically a home game for the PAC 12 with a championship game on the line is a little unfair. Especially considering the fans will probably want to purchase championship game tickets if the Big 10 wins. You're talking about a huge financial burden.
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If the ACC folds, the Big12 will likely absorb their remnants and create an eastern division along with west virginia. Thus, it'll be a natural rivalry with the SEC as the 2 will occupy the southeastern quarter of the US.

Plus preserve the traditional alliance/rivalry between the B1G and Pac12.
 
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bamawriter said:
As I said before, I think we'll be down to four major conferences very soon. I think the Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, and Big XII will be the survivors. So, in my mind, the four team playoff should be the same every year:

Big 10 Champ vs. Pac 12 Champ in the Rose Bowl
SEC Champ vs. Big XII Champ in the Sugar
Winners play at a neutral site as determined by a bidding process

Not unlike what we have starting this year, but without the subjectivity of a selection committee.
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How will SEC fans feel about assimilating teams like Wake and Memphis into these Mega Super Ultimate Conferences.

Or how much tougher it will be adding teams like FSU, Miami, and Clemson as opposed to what the PAC and Big 10 would add.
 
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Morpheus said:
If the ACC folds, the Big12 will likely absorb their remnants and create an eastern division along with west virginia. Thus, it'll be a natural rivalry with the SEC as the 2 will occupy the southeastern quarter of the US.

Plus preserve the traditional alliance/rivalry between the B1G and Pac12.
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Outside of a few individual rivalry match-ups won't tradition be thrown out the window in these Mega conferences?

Bowl traditions are already meaningless. Why preserve them?
 
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