Goodbye BCS, Hello Playoffs

[bamawriter]

So Texas could leave whenever it got an offer, which would seemingly destroy that conference a lot quicker.

Texas isn't going to find another conference that will allow their network. Not without splitting the proceeds.

If they're already creating a separate division for the 5 conferences, why even realign the conferences after that again then? In this case it seems like it would already be their way on any issue they voted on…why would there be a further (for lack of a better word at the moment) consolidation?

Money. North Carolina is worth more in the SEC than in the ACC. Notre Dame is worth more in the Big 10. Clemson is worth more if every one of their games is broadcast in Dallas.

 

[milohimself]

I think it could be bumped up to 8 for sure but no more. Don't take away the most important regular season in any sport.

Honestly one of the reasons I have taken to soccer. Everybody lines up and plays everybody else, once at home and once on the road. Whoever does the best at the end of that is the winner.

Double round robin = best championship format in all of sports.

 

[beneVOLence]

how long does everyone think it will take to go from 4 to 8 teams? this year for instance people would do the whole "stanford deserves a chance" thing because they were a 1 loss team ranked 5th. i dont think the argument is quite the same for the #9 team though

I heard today on ESPN that the 4 teams are locked in and can't be changed for 12 years. They acted like it was set in stone. I would assume they would know, but you know the NCAA tends to make up their on rules.

 

[bleedorange0037]

Honestly one of the reasons I have taken to soccer. Everybody lines up and plays everybody else, once at home and once on the road. Whoever does the best at the end of that is the winner.

Double round robin = best championship format in all of sports.

Without a doubt. Just about every soccer association also has some form of playoff competition that runs concurrently throughout the season, but I think most fans would rather see their team win a league title than a cup. In the EPL, if you collect the most points through 38 games, there's absolutely no arguing you were the best.

 

[Chattanooga Butchslappers]

I would like to see it expanded to 6 teams. I think you could make a valid argument for any of the top five-ish teams, maybe 6. anything past that, and i dont think they have a legitimate shot at winning it all. I think I would rather see the BCS formula used in place of the committee, as many on VN have said, the BCS typically gets it right, but i think often times the #3,4, or 5 team can make a legitimate argument.

And I'm not sold that this will kill the regular season. Basically, if you lose now most teams historically are done outside of the ultra elites, as far as the championship hunt is concerned. At least some very good teams are still in the hunt.

 

[zreeves]

I don't think the argument is quite valid past team number #5 or at most maybe #6.


Then again, you'd also be looking at college football teams playing as many games as an NFL team does in the regular season.

i think they will just get rid of conference championships to expand playoff games. if they do that, it is only 1 extra game because there will be 3 rounds instead of conference championship followed by national title game.

I heard today on ESPN that the 4 teams are locked in and can't be changed for 12 years. They acted like it was set in stone. I would assume they would know, but you know the NCAA tends to make up their on rules.

i did not realize that it was supposed to be so permanent. i think now that they have caved to any sort of playoff system though, that people will be hungry for more. i thought the final number would eventually get to 16, but that is sort of hard to justify because i dont think a team outside of the top 10 realistically has a shot at winning the national title and really even the bottom part of the top 8 is pushing it. i think the final number will be 8 teams as soon as that is possible in regards to the contracts and stuff

 

[TrueOrange]

i think they will just get rid of conference championships to expand playoff games. if they do that, it is only 1 extra game because there will be 3 rounds instead of conference championship followed by national title game.

The conferences would lose a lot of sure money on that. Not to mention the divisional set up of play and the conference championship game pretty much go hand in hand.

 

[BearBryant]

Okay so now that the BCS era has ended, how do you view the new playoff system? Honestly, I had gotten so used to the BCS I didn't mind it all that much anymore and I felt that for the most part, it got the match ups right. Now, I'm not saying it should remain in place, it's just I'm not too familiar on how the new system will work (selection of the final teams). I'll look into it in the coming months so I'm not asking how it works, I'm just curious to hear your opinions about the new playoff system and if you feel like throwing in some explanations, that'll work too.

Think about this:
1. Before the BCS sports writers and coaches determined the National Champion. Talk about bias. How many of Notre Dame's National Championships were undeserved. Probably 2 or 3. And in 1990 Ga Tech got screwed. Colorado did not deserve that Championship. Ga. Tech was 11-0-1. They tied #11 North Carolina and BEAT Nebraska 45-24 in the Bowl Game. They beat 8 ranked teams and tied 1. Colorado was 11-1-1. They lost to Illinois tied Tennessee. They beat Nebraska 27-12 and they were given 5 downs to beat Missouri. There was liberal bias involved here. And there are others.

2. The BCS system got the correct National Champion 16 times. 16 for 16 not bad. For the most part they had the correct #1 vs. #2 Maybe two or three times you could have argued about who #2 should have been.

3. The BCS system keeps the Bowl season intact which I am for 100%. I love that there are 35 bowl games. It is fun and if you like watching college football 35 championship type games. Yes, I don't have a problem with 6-6 teams getting in. Under this system it works. I would love to watch a 6-6 Tennessee team play in a bowl.

4. This is maybe the most important factor. The BCS system made the regular season like a full season playoff!! There were critical games every week. Excitement from Labor Day until 1st week of December!! Not like the ridiculous Basketball season where the 8th place team in the BigEast or Big10 can win the National Championship -- What a joke!!! The regular season, conference champions, and some league tournament championship are nothing more than a way for the tournament committee to seed Duke#1 every year and allow teams with LOSING conference records into the tournament. There is even talk about letting everyone in so then why play the regular season?

5. One thing the BCS did that is pure stupidity is to say the computer systems can't use margin of victory. What a joke! That is the most important thing THE FINAL SCORE and who won. I can see limiting it to nothing higher than 40 points but MARGIN of VICTORY does mean something.

The playoff:
Having a committee with Condolesa Rice is going to screw up probably the 4th and maybe 3rd rank team at sometime. And how the 4 are seeded will be biased.

But if kept to 4 teams the BOWL Season would stay intact and the regular season still is critical.

Unfortunately, the me me me attitude and need it now deserve it without work mentality of our population I forsee the 4 expanded to 6 and then to 8. Once you get to 8, The bowl season is damaged and the regular season gets a major injury. Because at 8 teams and probably 6 teams the out of conference regular season becomes meaningless.

I know this is a lot but it all should be taken in and really thought out!!!

Oh GoVols.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

it screams of mediocrity. But that's what some fans want. Lets give out sportsmanship trophies and not keep score too.

So explain how the playoff system will be so much better than the BCS.

 

[zreeves]

The conferences would lose a lot of sure money on that. Not to mention the divisional set up of play and the conference championship game pretty much go hand in hand.

that is true. maybe they get rid of a nonconference game then since usually 3 of them are garbage and for many teams, all 4 are.

 

[Burger]

When you say predetermined, do you mean fully orchestrated or simply influenced?

Both. Depends on the game.

 

[GreveHaller]

So explain how the playoff system will be so much better than the BCS.

it wont. It will allow lesser teams to compete on the same level as teams that have achieved more. Its socialism for football - everyone is equal, no reward for being the best or working hard to achieve more.

 

[RollerVol]

There's too much still unclear on the process used to pick the teams. I know the who but don't know the how. I'll wait until after the first year of the process before I can comment.
GO VOLS!