Goodbye Oregon Football

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#655
It will be worse than the Albert Means crap imo. Of course the NCAA is as consistant as a housewife with a vodka problem.
 
#656
#656
wheaton4prez said:
Ok. So, why don't you quote the "black and white" that says that a scout can't have a personal relationship with a PSA?



Ok. Instead of insisting there is one or giving a number. Give me the "black and white" that supports your claim.



How does sleeping over make him a representative of the university?



What in those rules do you think supports your claim?



Caught by who? The NCAA wasn't involved at all at that point.



So you agree that when he says that he "believes" that he "crossed a line", it may mean nothing consequential?



Are you breathing heavily?



That's not the right comparison. That would be regarding benefits to PSAs. Programs can pay for services without them being ruled boosters. For example, paying for inside information and taxi rides.



You should support your claims.
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Wow. Just wow. The force is strong with this one.
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wheaton4prez said:
I have read that. According to your reading of the rules, if you pay someone and they help you during the recruiting process, it's a violation. This would mean that hiring taxi drivers is a violation.



There isn't a rule against recruiting services having relationships with PSAs.



So, Lyles mind is good enough to "believe" that he "crossed a line" but not good enough to determine that he didn't steer players?

Having a relationship with the players is not a violation. It's the reason why he had valuable information.



I've read all of the related bylaws multiple times now. Which specific rule do you think Oregon violated?



According to what rule?



According to what rule?



So, you agree that trying to comply with the written materials requirement does not demonstrate a cover-up?



He says as emphatically as he can that he didn't steer anyone anywhere. He has said this in multiple interviews now.



According to what rule?



Where does it say that? Do you think that paying a taxi driver makes them a booster?

It's the other way around. If a person gives money to the program, they are a booster. There is no rule stating that anyone who is paid is a booster.
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if said taxi driver starts setting up recruiting visits, yes it is a violation.

recruiting services cannot be involved in the recruiting process. they are supposed to be like reporters to the recruits.

if you listen to what lyles says he specifically said he didn't FORCE the players to go somewhere. helping them go somewhere liek he did with seastrunks LOI and james' eligibility is absolutely a violation.

he's saying he can't steer anyone anywhere because they are adults. similar to your father saying he can't tell you what to do after you move out of the house. i'm sure you father has no influence over your decisions when you were 17 right?

yes paying a taxi driver makes them a booster by ncaa rules.

you don't get it. you are a booster if you give money to the university OR if you take money from the university. this is very clear.
 
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droski said:
yes paying a taxi driver makes them a booster by ncaa rules.
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Splitting hairs here, but this isnt totally true

droski said:
you don't get it. you are a booster if you give money to the university OR if you take money from the university. this is very clear.
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Bottom line, and a line that Wheaton and his ostrich brethren cant seem to understand. Its ok, the AA will make you understand soon enough.
 
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#660
The real problem here is that some fans get so wrapped up in their team that they begin to see themselves as part of that team. Thus, because THEY didn't cheat or break rules personally, they assume their team has not either. I mean, they're the same thing, right?

Bad news, Wheaton. You are not the Oregon Ducks. You did not got the national title game. The Oregon Ducks went and cheated without consulting you.
 
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IPorange said:
The real problem here is that some fans get so wrapped up in their team that they begin to see themselves as part of that team. Thus, because THEY didn't cheat or break rules personally, they assume their team has not either. I mean, they're the same thing, right?
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Sounds very familiar......................
 
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droski said:
if oregon gave a taxi driver money he'd be a booster.
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Not by the way I read the bylaw. Again, we are splitting hairs here, but the university is allowed to pay a taxi driver for transportation of the PSA and that is one of the exceptions to the booster/university interest clause.
 
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