Gov Lee Signs State Bill SB-8005 Into Law

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NorthDallas40 said:
If people get charged with felonies simply for refusing to leave property or premises that’s ridiculous. A felony charge is serious. Overstaying your welcome while acting peacefully during your overstay until removed isn’t serious.
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Folks in this thread cheering on what can only be defined as tyranny. Like I said, I can't imagine peaceably assembling only to catch a felony charge.... Sheeit, wouldn't last ten minutes in a court room.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
If it’s in an open space and people want to mill around all night long who cares.

But that doesn’t equate to setting up house. Just my own opinion but habitation /= protest. A good ole fashioned sit it? Sure. Even rotate shifts. Don’t care. Setting up tents and squatting? Stupid and ridiculous.
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I agree with you, but I don't think the law is written that way. I'm pretty sure its written to allow for felony prosecution of anybody who sits in a chair or falls asleep in that open space after 10pm. I'll add the caveat that it's Saturday, I've had a bourbon, and this is the first time I've read it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Generally yes.
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Cant vote when your dead.

Your logic is sound though. We just disagree.

Hell, I think each state should have ewual electoral votes and population shouldn't come into play. This would stop the whole partisan thing real fast. So clearly I am on an island occupied by just me.
 
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NEO said:
Sure you will be able to get protedt permits
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The way I read it, the department head in charge of the property can grant exceptions to the camping prohibition, but not specifically protest permits. I have a problem with that if there aren't specific criteria that anyone can objectively meet to get the exception. It can obviously lead to an abuse of process.
 
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NEO said:
Cant vote when your dead.

Your logic is sound though. We just disagree.

Hell, I think each state should have ewual electoral votes and population shouldn't come into play. This would stop the whole partisan thing real fast. So clearly I am on an island occupied by just me.
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Oh I definitely agree on EC count. Should be a total of 50. One each for each of the peer 50 states. But that is another thread and will derail this one...

Edit: oh and felony /= capital. A capital offense is a felony for sure. But not all felonies are capital. However after the corpse has served its time and done its debt to society it may now resume voting... Democrat of course (couldn’t resist 😂)
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The way I read it, the department head in charge of the property can grant exceptions to the camping prohibition, but not specifically protest permits. I have a problem with that if there aren't specific criteria that anyone can objectively meet to get the exception. It can obviously lead to an abuse of process.
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Agree.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
Kind of like making jaywalking a capital crime.
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Here is the problem I have and if I am wrong I apologize.

I am assuming you feel what is happening in portland and nyc is totally ok which makes this type of bill happen.

The bill is clearly overreach but to compare camping and shutting a street to jay walking isn't a fair comparison.

I truly believe this bill has more to do with mayor cooper and that state taking control away from him, which I am ok with, thsn anything else.
 
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volfanhill said:
What’s the incentive to not going back to your felonious ways? They committed a crime. Served their time. The question shouldn’t be what gives the greater good a better outcome. It’s what gives the individuals a better outcome.
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You realize most felons commit more crimes but even then they don’t vote even when their rights are restored
 
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Septic said:
"camping" where it isn't convenient for politicians doesn't seem like a great reason to charge someone with a felony and to strip rights.

I can't imagine this is remotely constitutional.
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You’d be wrong. There’s nothing wrong with it
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You’d be wrong. There’s nothing wrong with it
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No surprise that the Kelly Security services professional would be looking to shake his flashlight and assert authority.

The right to peaceably assemble is a right codified in the Constitution. I don't think you'd need to be a very good lawyer to see that this sham law is a thinly veiled assault on that and couldn't hold up to a legal challenge. Turning being in the wrong place peacefully into a felony to strip voting rights away is an outrageous end run around the Constitution.

I guess it shouldn't be any surprise to see yokels like you cheering for more laws and regulations, especially where laws already existed. Clearly, Lee's pandering stunt is impressive to the low information crowd who are impressed with appearances rather than substance.
 
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NEO said:
The bill is clearly overreach but to compare camping and shutting a street to jay walking isn't a fair comparison.
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Shutting a street down is how protesting works andthe right of peaceably assembling is codified in the Constitution. Jaywalking isn't.
 
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Septic said:
Folks in this thread cheering on what can only be defined as tyranny. Like I said, I can't imagine peaceably assembling only to catch a felony charge.... Sheeit, wouldn't last ten minutes in a court room.
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I don’t know about that. I’ve seen courts allow so real **** in the past. It’s best to try and undo the stupidity before it gets to the courts.
 
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Septic said:
No surprise that the Kelly Security services professional would be looking to shake his flashlight and assert authority.

The right to peaceably assemble is a right codified in the Constitution. I don't think you'd need to be a very good lawyer to see that this sham law is a thinly veiled assault on that and couldn't hold up to a legal challenge. Turning being in the wrong place peacefully into a felony to strip voting rights away is an outrageous end run around the Constitution.

I guess it shouldn't be any surprise to see yokels like you cheering for more laws and regulations, especially where laws already existed. Clearly, Lee's pandering stunt is impressive to the low information crowd who are impressed with appearances rather than substance.
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Lol low information would believe that rioting, looting, vandalism, and cohabitation on state property is legal and protected by the Constitution.
 
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Septic said:
Shutting a street down is how protesting works andthe right of peaceably assembling is codified in the Constitution. Jaywalking isn't.
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You aren’t allowed to legally shut down streets either without a parade permit
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol low information would believe that rioting, looting, vandalism, and cohabitation on state property is legal and protected by the Constitution.
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We're talking about peaceful assembly, keep up.
 
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