Greg Gianforte (MT GOP candidate)

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Grand Vol said:
Interesting.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ing-assault-charge-wins-special-election.html



I'm sure some of those would vote for an armadillo if it had an (R) behind it's name, but there seems to be a lot of pent up anger against the media right now. They would do well to crawl back under their rock at the moment, but as VB stated in another thread, they continue grasping at the most ignorant articles they can.
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While I don't disagree that the media has turned into a feeding frenzy over politics, the politicians in large part bring it on themselves. They choose the life of public self service, lie through there teeth and treat the media like crap because they are the messengers and easy targets.

The guy has demonstrated he's unfit to hold office, i'm guessing if he doesn't have the skin to deal with the weasel from the guardian, he won't last long in the public eye -
especially now.

That said, the Democrat in that race was a country folk singer and the goon actually had a background that could be of service to the community, in some small capacity at least.

I would say that if people voted for the goon and that assaulting a reporter asking a question didn't bother them - we've got bigger problems than ever. Tolerance of physical violence should never be condoned, especially by a politician. It's astonishing that that even needs to be said, icky.
 
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Septic said:
While I don't disagree that the media has turned into a feeding frenzy over politics, the politicians in large part bring it on themselves. They choose the life of public self service, lie through there teeth and treat the media like crap because they are the messengers and easy targets.

The guy has demonstrated he's unfit to hold office, i'm guessing if he doesn't have the skin to deal with the weasel from the guardian, he won't last long in the public eye -
especially now.

That said, the Democrat in that race was a country folk singer and the goon actually had a background that could be of service to the community, in some small capacity at least.

I would say that if people voted for the goon and that assaulting a reporter asking a question didn't bother them - we've got bigger problems than ever. Tolerance of physical violence should never be condoned, especially by a politician. It's astonishing that that even needs to be said, icky.
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I don't disagree with you here, but the media makes themselves targets as well. You and I both know that. The Congressman-elect's response was wrong in a lot of ways. But the media, by and large, is making themselves a nuisance towards practically anyone they can. And eventually, one of those politicians was going to snap just like Grimm did in NY some time back.

Unfortunately, we are seeing a rise in violence being the answer to the problem more than before. Think of the Antifa demonstrations and what happened at Trump rallies before the election. I'm not condoning it or saying it's right, but it is happening at an increased rate. And before long, someone is going to fight back with a firearm and pop someone a third eye.

All hell will break loose then.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't disagree with you here, but the media makes themselves targets as well. You and I both know that. The Congressman-elect's response was wrong in a lot of ways. But the media, by and large, is making themselves a nuisance towards practically anyone they can. And eventually, one of those politicians was going to snap just like Grimm did in NY some time back.

Unfortunately, we are seeing a rise in violence being the answer to the problem more than before. Think of the Antifa demonstrations and what happened at Trump rallies before the election. I'm not condoning it or saying it's right, but it is happening at an increased rate. And before long, someone is going to fight back with a firearm and pop someone a third eye.

All hell will break loose then.
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I agree.

There are a lot of media, liberal and conservative, who are antagonistic and annoying. But that would not authorize what this guy did.

Moreover, the attitude of both the candidate and many on this board is that itvwas acceptable BECAUSE OF the perception that the reporter us "liberal."

Think about that for a second. It's ok to physically assault the reporter based on the reporter's politics.

That's simply indefensible.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't disagree with you here, but the media makes themselves targets as well. You and I both know that. The Congressman-elect's response was wrong in a lot of ways. But the media, by and large, is making themselves a nuisance towards practically anyone they can. And eventually, one of those politicians was going to snap just like Grimm did in NY some time back.

Unfortunately, we are seeing a rise in violence being the answer to the problem more than before. Think of the Antifa demonstrations and what happened at Trump rallies before the election. I'm not condoning it or saying it's right, but it is happening at an increased rate. And before long, someone is going to fight back with a firearm and pop someone a third eye.

All hell will break loose then.
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Blaming and using the "media" for this guys bad behavior is a cop out. A state's electorate just shrugged their shoulders at the violence on a reporter, at least in part because he was doing what reporters have done for well...ever.

This is a slippery slope, if politicians can strong arm and assault the media with impunity - our ability to enjoy the comforts of having a 1st Amendment are in peril.

Something tells me this guy will have his wrist slapped.
 
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Madscientistvol said:
Basic civility has been gone for a while. Ask Milo or Ann Coulter how much civility they received. Partisanism is getting ridiculous and both sides are very much at fault.

So the left wants to limit free speech and the right wants to limit free press.
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Totally, totally disagree. Of course there are always a few outliers. But your use of such a broad brush to paint "the left wants to limit free speech and the right wants to limit free press" is as ignorant as "black people can't get ID or understand how to access the internet" in the video linked above in this thread.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree.

There are a lot of media, liberal and conservative, who are antagonistic and annoying. But that would not authorize what this guy did.

Moreover, the attitude of both the candidate and many on this board is that itvwas acceptable BECAUSE OF the perception that the reporter us "liberal."

Think about that for a second. It's ok to physically assault the reporter based on the reporter's politics.

That's simply indefensible.
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So, it's ok to physically assault & to verbally abuse conservatives in public based on their politics for voting Trump. See how this works..
 
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I'd say this is a small win for republicans but a great defeat over the long term. People are outraged by this. It's going to cause more dems to go to the polls and more independents to vote democratically. Bad stuff happening all over for republicans leading right up to a majore election year.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
So, it's ok to physically assault & to verbally abuse conservatives in public based on their politics for voting Trump. See how this works..
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Strawman.

The argument is about politicians and the media. Don't conflate it with political disagreements on the sidewalk.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
So, it's ok to physically assault & to verbally abuse conservatives in public based on their politics for voting Trump. See how this works..
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You know it's funny, I never see none of these guys speaking out against that. Just like every terrorist attack they're here bashing anyone who says anything about islam, and calling them racist. Let a white guy shoot someone, or a republican body slam a reporter, and it's all about morals all of a sudden? Go figure.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree.

There are a lot of media, liberal and conservative, who are antagonistic and annoying. But that would not authorize what this guy did.

Moreover, the attitude of both the candidate and many on this board is that itvwas acceptable BECAUSE OF the perception that the reporter us "liberal."

Think about that for a second. It's ok to physically assault the reporter based on the reporter's politics.

That's simply indefensible.
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No, it's not ok to physically assault a reporter because they are liberal. An argument could be made that it's ok when said reporter barges in shoves a recorder in your face, badgers you incessantly and refuses to leave when asked.
 
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joevol33 said:
You know it's funny, I never see none of these guys speaking out against that. Just like every terrorist attack they're here bashing anyone who says anything about islam, and calling them racist. Let a white guy shoot someone, or a republican body slam a reporter, and it's all about morals all of a sudden? Go figure.
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A man in power just assaulted another man and nothing happened. He didn't even lose the election because of it. He can use his power to keep from being prosecuted. That's why people are upset.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
I'd say this is a small win for republicans but a great defeat over the long term. People are outraged by this. It's going to cause more dems to go to the polls and more independents to vote democratically. Bad stuff happening all over for republicans leading right up to a majore election year.
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People aren't outraged. In two weeks hardly anyone will GAF.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
I'd say this is a small win for republicans but a great defeat over the long term. People are outraged by this. It's going to cause more dems to go to the polls and more independents to vote democratically. Bad stuff happening all over for republicans leading right up to a majore election year.
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Disagree. 90% of the electorate will forget this ever happened by the time midterms roll around.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
I'd say this is a small win for republicans but a great defeat over the long term. People are outraged by this. It's going to cause more dems to go to the polls and more independents to vote democratically. Bad stuff happening all over for republicans leading right up to a majore election year.
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This particular incident is causing mass liberal outrage and will cause Dems all over to go to the polls? No one will remember this by next election.
 
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SGMVols said:
Disagree. 90% of the electorate will forget this ever happened by the time midterms roll around.
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What's the over/under on the number of 2018 midterm gop'ers that will try to insert "Remember Benghazi!" into their stumps?
 
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jlindsa4 said:
A man in power just assaulted another man and nothing happened. He didn't even lose the election because of it. He can use his power to keep from being prosecuted. That's why people are upset.
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He was charged wasn't he? Now it's for a court to decide.
 
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