Gregg Doyel: No brainer to hire Bruce back

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I'm all for bringing Bruce back, but at least for a couple of years just think of the negative recruiting other schools would use about his lying to the NCAA, and asking the Crafts to do the same. However, I think that will start being used less and less over time.
 
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Doyel pegged Kiffin before we hired him...he is right here too. Let's hope Hart listens when Hamilton wouldn't.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/60089-gregg-doyel-opinons-kiffin-ut.html

Changing to Lane would be a laughable mistake
Oct. 21, 2008
By Gregg Doyel
CBSSports.com National Columnist
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The temptation is to keep my mouth shut. The temptation is to let this happen without a single word of warning, and then when it does happen, to open my mouth. But only after the fact. And then, only to laugh.
To laugh at you, Clemson.
Or at you, Tennessee.

Kiffin did little in Oakland. Why would college be different? (Getty Images)

Or at whatever deflated college football powerhouse gives Lane Kiffin $2 million a year to pump life back into its program.
Kiffin might be a nice guy, and just a few weeks ago it was me who came to his defense in his unseemly war with that spiteful ogre who runs the Raiders. But Kiffin as the hottest coaching candidate on the college football circuit this offseason?
Really?
What a sad turn of events this is for college football. Four years ago, the hot young star was Urban Meyer. Notre Dame wanted him. Florida got him. And within two years Florida won a national title.
Two years ago it was Butch Davis. North Carolina was so eager to get him, the Tar Heels fired John Bunting in midseason just so they would feel OK to talk to Davis. Within two years, UNC has gone from 3-9 under Bunting to 5-2 with Davis.
Now the golden boy is Kiffin.
Really.
The temptation, as I've said, is to sit back and let it happen. Let Clemson and its good ol' athletic director and its quarterback's daddy run off Tommy Bowden just so they can give themselves to Kiffin.
Or let Tennessee fire Phillip Fulmer, with his national title ring and his two SEC championship rings and his 10-win season as recently as 2007. (Let's not pretend Tennessee would fire Fulmer because his players are Class-A cretins. Tennessee didn't care about that when he was 10-4, and Tennessee doesn't care now that he's 3-4.) Let the Vols, who are idiots anyway for taking men's basketball advice from the Pump brothers, cut loose Fulmer and hire Kiffin.
And then in three years, I'll laugh. Because it will be funny when Kiffin runs a program so far into the ground, its new school color will be magma.
But no. Today it feels better to help than to hurt, so today I will help Clemson and Tennessee and Syracuse -- well, maybe Syracuse can't do any better than Kiffin -- by telling them to kindly, but swiftly, pull your head out of your ass and understand who Kiffin is. And who he is not.
Who he is: A terrible NFL head coach. Bill Callahan, not Bill Cowher. True, the Raiders are poisonous. But Kiffin didn't do anything to make them better. The Raiders sucked before he got there, and the Raiders sucked while he was there, and the Raiders suck now that he's gone. Kiffin had no impact. Zero.
So if Kiffin's time with the Raiders was a complete zero, who else is he? He's a former offensive coordinator at the most talented program in college football. That's all he is, and if that sounds flippant, good. I love it when my tone reflects my intent.
Kiffin was offensive coordinator for two years at Southern California, and the first of those years (2005) he had Matt Leinart at quarterback, Reggie Bush and LenDale White at running back and Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith at receiver. Bill Callahan couldn't have screwed that up, for God's sake. Kiffin's next year as offensive coordinator was similarly loaded, and anyway, by then he was splitting duties with quarterbacks coach Steve Sarkisian, not to mention with head coach Pete Carroll.
A quick scan of the rosters at Clemson and Tennessee doesn't show anyone like Leinart, Bush or White. Or like Jarrett or Steve Smith, either. Clemson and Tennessee don't even have John David Booty.
But fans of both schools -- and athletic directors of both schools, I'm guessing -- are hot for Kiffin. Why? Because he has name value. You've heard of Kiffin. Your friends have heard of Kiffin. The school that hires him will, as the saying goes, win the press conference.
And then lose the games.
Because it says here that Kiffin, for all his whiz-kid looks, is more Wonder bread than wonder boy. His best breaks in the coaching business came because his dad, longtime NFL assistant coach Monte Kiffin, called in some favors. One of those favors was at USC, where Lane got on board thanks to Daddy and then helped win with Carroll's players because losing with Carroll's players, in that conference, was impossible.
Lane Kiffin then flopped at Oakland -- after being the Raiders' second choice from Carroll's staff, behind Sarkisian, by the way -- because he wasn't good enough to overcome deranged Al Davis.
Look at that résumé, and tell me where it says -- or even suggests -- that Kiffin will win enough at Clemson or Tennessee to keep those lunatics happy. Bowden went 72-45 at Clemson. Fulmer is 150-49 at Tennessee.
Kiffin is going to top either of those records at either of those schools?
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I am not convinced that Hart's ego will keep him from rehiring Bruce. Look at it this way - if Hart rehires CBP and he and CBJ get Tennessee basketball and football back where they need to be, in my opinion Hart is seen as the guy who made two homerun hires. Public opinion on Hart would be at a all-time high.
 
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BearCat204 said:
A great effort, but IMO will have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Pearl is rehired here.
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maybe not. But I bet some people up the chain see that article and they will see mention of the 21000+ people that took time to sign it.

That said, the only chance is if there is a push by the SEC behind the scenes because Bruce = $$ for UT and the SEC. Even opponents will make money coming to watch a Pearl team. To watch the show.
 
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Gtokyle said:
I rarely post but I heard some disturbing comments from Mickey Dearstone, regarding Bruce Pearl, on the radio this morning and felt the need. I'm not looking to get bashed regarding my opinions and most of you have probably forgotten more about this situation than I know, but I really believe that if Bruce is in the running for the job, if it opens up, he needs to address those statements Mickey made. I don't even listen to sports radio that often but I have noticed that Mickey really, really carries the water for the Lady Vols and that's totally understandable. Sometimes he can be comical in his defense of the Lady Vols coaching staff so I'm willing to take his Bruce Pearl comments with a grain of salt. But I felt they were really serious and I would like to hear some clarification from some of you that know more about what Mickey said. Thanks!
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Can we add in a footnote for Dearstone to shut is mouth for one full year in the Bruce Petition. Seriously this guy is the perfect representation of a butt kissing stooge. I don't care what he said. If it was anti Pearl that's a good thing to me and all I need to know.
 
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volboy81 said:
21,000 signatures last I saw...that would almost fill TBA. I'm getting season tkts again if we BBB!
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TBA currently seats 21,678.

The petition currently has 23,675.

Technically, there are 2,000 more than they would need to fill the arena.

Edit: I know that everyone that signed isn't buying season tickets, but the excitement would be there to fill the arena most nights.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Hart will NOT re hire Pearl!!!! Hart wants the coaches of each sport to be popular but he doesn't want them to be rock stars and over shadow him.

We will get a mid major successful coach and try to low ball him at a cheap price....
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Why do you and others feel this way about Hart? Just curious.
 
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TBA would be sold out all the freaking time if Bruce Came back. Everyone would want to come see
 
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1Ooltevol said:
I am not convinced that Hart's ego will keep him from rehiring Bruce. Look at it this way - if Hart rehires CBP and he and CBJ get Tennessee basketball and football back where they need to be, in my opinion Hart is seen as the guy who made two homerun hires. Public opinion on Hart would be at a all-time high.
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Very true.

And in the unlikely event Pearl fails, well, who can blame Hart for bring him back onboard?

It's a no-lose situation, unless Hart/Cheek are just absolutely terrified that Bruce is immediately going to start committing NCAA violations again.
 
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Curious to know: What if you get em back and he's lost his magic? What if you're no better than you are now even with Pearl?

We kicked this around here regarding the same idea, IE: bringing Billy back. Just curious.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
Curious to know: What if you get em back and he's lost his magic? What if you're no better than you are now even with Pearl?

We kicked this around here regarding the same idea, IE: bringing Billy back. Just curious.
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It's a risk worth taking.

In any event, Pearl would have to absolutely stink it up for at least the same amount of time that Cuonzo has been coach for people to completely write him off and the hire to be a failure.

And in the meantime, TBA would be packed for most games, because Cuonzo can still bring a decent crowd even with very mediocre teams.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
Curious to know: What if you get em back and he's lost his magic? What if you're no better than you are now even with Pearl?

We kicked this around here regarding the same idea, IE: bringing Billy back. Just curious.
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I think then at least we'd know. Many of us would rather chance bringing Bruce back and him not panning out than to see him take someone else to the promised land.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
Curious to know: What if you get em back and he's lost his magic? What if you're no better than you are now even with Pearl?

We kicked this around here regarding the same idea, IE: bringing Billy back. Just curious.
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I think it would be more like Bill Snyder at Kansas St. Some coaches, like the artile says, just have that winning ability.

I think we would make the tourney next year and never look back.

I don't know if we would be AS good as before, but certainly a very good shot at being much better than right now.
 
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For me, this is like cam newton.

People get up in arms and want to see there are rules that must be followed and have consequences. Then, you get to see the dude go somewhere else and thrive and wonder why no one else was held to the same standard.

Someone is going to hire pearl again. And pearl will win where he goes.

Do you want it to be Tennessee or somewhere else....say, Alabama for instance?

Why are pearl's actions unforgivable for Tennessee but they can be forgiven by everyone else?
 
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99gator said:
For me, this is like cam newton.

People get up in arms and want to see there are rules that must be followed and have consequences. Then, you get to see the dude go somewhere else and thrive and wonder why no one else was held to the same standard.

Someone is going to hire pearl again. And pearl will win where he goes.

Do you want it to be Tennessee or somewhere else....say, Alabama for instance?

Why are pearl's actions unforgivable for Tennessee but they can be forgiven by everyone else?
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Exactly. It's not like we're talking about hiring a totally blacklisted coach.

If UT doesn't get Bruce, someone else will...and it will probably be another SEC team.

Which would be a total PR disaster for the AD.
 
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99gator said:
For me, this is like cam newton.

People get up in arms and want to see there are rules that must be followed and have consequences. Then, you get to see the dude go somewhere else and thrive and wonder why no one else was held to the same standard.

Someone is going to hire pearl again. And pearl will win where he goes.

Do you want it to be Tennessee or somewhere else....say, Alabama for instance?

Why are pearl's actions unforgivable for Tennessee but they can be forgiven by everyone else?
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Witch Doctor say...
exactly. For the ones against..its more about feelings.....? dont get that?
BBB
Bones never lie.
 
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Would all of you honestly rather have Bruce Pearl than a guy like Gregg Marshall who just went to a Final Four and has his team ranked in the top 5? I honestly don't get it.

There are better coaches out there who don't have the baggage. It's insane to me.
 
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