Grider and Gruden

#76
#76
We need Gruden now, worse than ever. Try living in KY and having U of L fans laugh at you for trying to steal their coach.
 
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#77
#77
We need Gruden now, worse than ever. Try living in KY and having U of L fans laugh at you for trying to steal their coach.

I hear ya. My wife is from Kentucky and all her stupid friends are bashing us on the facebook feeds.
 
#78
#78
I hear ya. My wife is from Kentucky and all her stupid friends are bashing us on the facebook feeds.

Thy were quiet as hell when they thought that they were going to lose him. Even UK fans are talking sh!t and idk why?
 
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#79
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See, heres why I believe this is connected with Gruden.

South Pittsburg is truly a powerhouse. I grew up in that area, my high school is their huge rival, and the longest standing in Tennessee.

Vic Grider has possibly one of the easiest jobs. From pee-wee up, they groom their players to understand Grider's terminology and schemes. Therefore, when they get to him, they're already used to what he does.

South Pittsburg is an EASY job for him. He doesn't have to recruit. The talent just lines right up, and he is there to take advantage of it.

So when he says he wants to get out of the grind of coaching, I just don't buy it. I realize, yes, it is a lot of work. But Grider has an easier road to winning than most HS coaches out there.

I really believe there is something to this. Plus....who goes out when their school is loaded year after year? I just don't see it at this point in time in his career.

Something is up. You don't just walk away from what you built, unless you got something REALLY good leaving for.

As a fellow Marion County alum I concur ...
 
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Hart said in his Presser that everything would play out in December. I think everything is going along his plan, and in the end he will come out of this looking like a genius.

In the movie The Sting, Paul Newman and Robert Redford played confidence men who burned the Mafia Guy played by Robert Shaw. The key to the sting was that they had to do it without the target ever knowing he was being made. I think Hart is doing just that.

If we got a splash hire, The biggest impediment to the Success of the Football program would be the academic side. Hart answers to Cheek, who in turn answers to the Faculty Senate. They hold the keys to the kingdom. I suspect Hart is orchestrating panic in the coaching search to manipulate the academics side of the campus. He knows if the turbo-donors are stressing with the hiring, they will ask what seems to be the problem!. Hart and Cheek can point their fingers at the academic powers that be. The donors will root out the problems.

The Senate has been squeezing the goose that lays the golden eggs so long they have begun to take football money for granted. Hart can point to lousy revenue streams from the Troy and Ky games as a harbinger of things to come. Hart can use the financials to show the Senate their controls over the football program are cutting into their future income.

My theory is that Hargis at the times free press has been leaked info by the Turbo-donors. They want Gruden and they tried to advance his hire, but Hart didn't want to do so until he had pressured the admin side a lot more to get them moving towards changes. I think Hargis's source was Grider. They both live in South Pittsburgh and Hargis has covered Grider for years. Grider is best friends with Gruden, they vacation together. Their wives are tight. I think he was provided documentary evidence from Grider to advance the Gruden hire.

Gruden is making well north of $400k per week on Monday Night Football. He likes the gig. He has two more shows to do. There is no reason to give that up. The recruiters have been on the trail saying, something big is on the way, keeping commits,and even prospects' interests high. I think Hart has the Gruden deal in his hip pocket and has for some time, but he can't reveal his "sting"or he has lost his leverage on the Senate. He needs for people to panic.

When Mike Grundy said no to a lateral move, followed by Strong, our fans started to pucker. The alarm was palpable.

"Oh No! We lost Gruden! "

Then it's, "Oh No! fisher is not interested!"

Then it's, "Oh No! We lost Gundy!"

Then it's,, Oh No! We lost Strong!"

Fans had thought the hard fighting Hart had lost over and over and over.

My theory is Hart wants the pretext that The solid coaching prospects don't want to come here because of the academic stuff. Hart needs the fans and boosters to be angry.

"How can all the other SEC schools get a coach and we can't? Hart wants you to think that. He wants leverage on the academic side.

Gruden is enjoying the attention. He keeps getting the attention. delay is to his advantage. The current UT staff is keeping in touch with recruits. He can come in in two weeks and be the hero to rescue the team from the smouldering ashes. Once the NFL season is over part of his staff will immediately be available. Hart will be able to get a little more money from the boosters to pay Gruden's all star assistants that he is assembling. Grider will be on staff with his buddy. Gruden's kids will be at Webb. The fans will be ecstatic. Hart's job is secure, Cheek will be out from under so much control from the Senate . And the senate will be thankful their goose is back in the golden egg business.

Flame away. This theory ties all the conflicting ends together.

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#81
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Per poster on VQ. (Long)
Hart said in his Presser that everything would play out in December. I think everything is going along his plan, and in the end he will come out of this looking like a genius.

In the movie The Sting, Paul Newman and Robert Redford played confidence men who burned the Mafia Guy played by Robert Shaw. The key to the sting was that they had to do it without the target ever knowing he was being made. I think Hart is doing just that.

If we got a splash hire, The biggest impediment to the Success of the Football program would be the academic side. Hart answers to Cheek, who in turn answers to the Faculty Senate. They hold the keys to the kingdom. I suspect Hart is orchestrating panic in the coaching search to manipulate the academics side of the campus. He knows if the turbo-donors are stressing with the hiring, they will ask what seems to be the problem!. Hart and Cheek can point their fingers at the academic powers that be. The donors will root out the problems.

The Senate has been squeezing the goose that lays the golden eggs so long they have begun to take football money for granted. Hart can point to lousy revenue streams from the Troy and Ky games as a harbinger of things to come. Hart can use the financials to show the Senate their controls over the football program are cutting into their future income.

My theory is that Hargis at the times free press has been leaked info by the Turbo-donors. They want Gruden and they tried to advance his hire, but Hart didn't want to do so until he had pressured the admin side a lot more to get them moving towards changes. I think Hargis's source was Grider. They both live in South Pittsburgh and Hargis has covered Grider for years. Grider is best friends with Gruden, they vacation together. Their wives are tight. I think he was provided documentary evidence from Grider to advance the Gruden hire.

Gruden is making well north of $400k per week on Monday Night Football. He likes the gig. He has two more shows to do. There is no reason to give that up. The recruiters have been on the trail saying, something big is on the way, keeping commits,and even prospects' interests high. I think Hart has the Gruden deal in his hip pocket and has for some time, but he can't reveal his "sting"or he has lost his leverage on the Senate. He needs for people to panic.

When Mike Grundy said no to a lateral move, followed by Strong, our fans started to pucker. The alarm was palpable.

"Oh No! We lost Gruden! "

Then it's, "Oh No! fisher is not interested!"

Then it's, "Oh No! We lost Gundy!"

Then it's,, Oh No! We lost Strong!"

Fans had thought the hard fighting Hart had lost over and over and over.

My theory is Hart wants the pretext that The solid coaching prospects don't want to come here because of the academic stuff. Hart needs the fans and boosters to be angry.

"How can all the other SEC schools get a coach and we can't? Hart wants you to think that. He wants leverage on the academic side.

Gruden is enjoying the attention. He keeps getting the attention. delay is to his advantage. The current UT staff is keeping in touch with recruits. He can come in in two weeks and be the hero to rescue the team from the smouldering ashes. Once the NFL season is over part of his staff will immediately be available. Hart will be able to get a little more money from the boosters to pay Gruden's all star assistants that he is assembling. Grider will be on staff with his buddy. Gruden's kids will be at Webb. The fans will be ecstatic. Hart's job is secure, Cheek will be out from under so much control from the Senate . And the senate will be thankful their goose is back in the golden egg business.

Flame away. This theory ties all the conflicting ends together.

Could this guy tell us more about what really happened at Roswell, the Kennedy assassination, or where the body of Jimmy Hoffa is??
 
#82
#82
Thy were quiet as hell when they thought that they were going to lose him. Even UK fans are talking sh!t and idk why?

Their basketball team is terrible this year so they have nothing to do now. Groom the horses and wait for it to warm up and make jabs at Tennessee while they can.
 
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#83
#83
The only fault i have with this is that we offered Strong money. If we actually had Gruden, I don't think we would offer any other coaches. I understand having interviews to throw off the scent but not by actually offering money!
 
#84
#84
Ok, so what im getting is JOn Gruden is coming to Tennessee and a member of his high paid staff is a class a high school football coach. Sounds good to me

He is going to be some sort of high school liaison for recruiting. What I heard..FWIW
 
#85
#85
The only fault i have with this is that we offered Strong money. If we actually had Gruden, I don't think we would offer any other coaches. I understand having interviews to throw off the scent but not by actually offering money!

Guy who gave cs a raise is business partners with a nfl qb who is a big thing in Knoxville
 
#86
#86
The only fault i have with this is that we offered Strong money. If we actually had Gruden, I don't think we would offer any other coaches. I understand having interviews to throw off the scent but not by actually offering money!

But I don't think we countered. Maybe its desperation at this point on my part, but this theory at least sounds plausible. Too many people "supposedly" had heard similar things that it was practically a done deal, and the way Hargis put his name and reputation on the line and remained so adamant about it is odd but telling. The guy went on every TN sports radio show Friday defending his story and he didn't sound the least bit defensive, flustered, desperate, what have you in his responses.

I know nothing about South Pitt football, as I'm not a TN native nor resident, other than my 4 years of school, but I find it odd that a guy ups and quits out of the blue. He says it was decided 2 years ago, yet it seems it took people by surprise.
 
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#87
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Guy who gave cs a raise is business partners with a nfl qb who is a big thing in Knoxville

So your theory now is that Peyton Manning has paid for:

...a big chunk of Dooley's buyout
...a big chunk of Jon Gruden's salary
AND
...a big chunk of Charlie Strong's raise at Louisville so it would look like we really wanted him even though we totally didn't?

You'll pardon my skepticism.
 
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#88
#88
Dude, he said his username is his last name. Therefore, if that last name is on the roster then it's more than likely him, meaning he would more than likely know his own teammates, who obvioulsy played for Grider, if they did in fact play at South Pitt.

You really think a poster is going to go through the trouble to pick out a username of a random player on the Bethel football roster of all places?

I think his proof of who he is and who these guys are is as good as any on here. How many people willingly give out their last name on message boards?

Um, no, but it didn't prove that his teammates knew anything, and my username is my last name. Always has been.
 
#90
#90
So your theory now is that Peyton Manning has paid for:

...a big chunk of Dooley's buyout
...a big chunk of Jon Gruden's salary
AND
...a big chunk of Charlie Strong's raise at Louisville so it would look like we really wanted him even though we totally didn't?

You'll pardon my skepticism.

These people with sources need to write a novel. At least the bookstores will have something to keep dust from gathering on the shelves.
 
#91
#91
Do you Marion County Einsteins have an explanation for the way you guys were jackassed?
 
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