Hail to the Washington Commanders

#2,626
#2,626
They run a 3-4 D, same as the Skins. I doubt it will make the Pats any better.

Also the reports that the Skins signed Brandon Stokley were false
 
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#2,627
#2,627
VolsNSkinsFan said:
They run a 3-4 D, same as the Skins. I doubt it will make the Pats any better.

Also the reports that the Skins signed Brandon Stokley were false
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If Haynesworth was so inclined he would have dominated in a 3-4 as a DE. He's just lazy as hell and Haslett and Shanahan were sick of his crap and not willing to work with him. It's 99% Haynesworth but the Coaches aren't entirely devoid of guilt here. Hayneswoth's public shaming was the wrong way to deal with a huge talent guy that obviously had an attitude problem.


Same as with Moss, I expect Bellichick to either get Haynesworth into Pro Bowl shape or just eject him. What do the Pats have to lose?
 
#2,628
#2,628
Very Low risk for the Pats, but It reminds me of the Jonathan Sullivan situation. DT from UGA drafted 1st round, traded to the Pats and dropped by October
 
#2,629
#2,629
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Very Low risk for the Pats, but It reminds me of the Jonathan Sullivan situation. DT from UGA drafted 1st round, traded to the Pats and dropped by October
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I don't see him lasting. Belichick is very much like Shanahan. They both are very much "Captains of their ship" and Shanahan did not, and Belichick will not, tolerate insubordination or laziness from Haynesworth.


I can see him riding the roster and then being flushed out far more than getting his head screwed on straight. There's no doubt, though, that if he does put forth an effort that he'd dominate as a DE in a 3-4 alongside Wilfork and Gerard Warren.
 
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#2,630
#2,630
Its a good trade for both teams. Skins get rid of a problem, and get something in return, while the Pats get a talanted player on the cheap. The Pats could clean up his image and then trade him to another team. Who knows?

I am just glad he is A) Not a Skin anymore B) In the AFC C) Playing in a 3-4 D
 
#2,631
#2,631
Stokley backed out of the deal. Apparently afraid of competition as he said the reason was too many WR were signed.
 
#2,633
#2,633
Report: Stephen Bowen to Sign With Redskins CBS Washington

Redskins have reportedly agreed to terms on a five-year contract worth $27.5 million. He’s expected to make a $12.5 million in guaranteed money.

Bowen, 27, will play defensive end in Washington’s 3-4 base defense. He spent the first five years of his career with the Dallas Cowboys, where the Hofstra product played in 63 games and made 11 NFL starts. Bowen’s career totals include 72 tackles, 5.5 sacks, three batted passes and one forced fumble
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Tobias Harris likes the pick up

tobias31 Congrats to my big bro Steve Bowen.. signing with the Redskins they got a good one!!
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#2,634
#2,634
That's a pretty big contract for a guy with 11 career starts.


Jason Babin, with 42 starts and 30 sacks (11.5 last year) is making about the same (5 year, $28mil) but at half the guaranteed. Granted, Bowen has youth and experience in a 3-4.
 
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#2,635
#2,635
Giants and Cowboys are spot on usually with DL or OL talent. If the guy can play for them, then he can play for the Skins. Thats my view
 
#2,637
#2,637
Actually, they must be really sold on Bowen.

Cofield got a 6-year/$36mil/$12mil guaranteed contract. That's $500,000/year more (same guaranteed) for a guy that actually won a Super Bowl (not to mention playoff games), has been a starter for his entire career and has only missed 2 games in 5 years.


With that said... where does Cofield go? I'd imagine he and Bowen will bookend the line with Kemoeatu as starting DT. If I recall, I read that they were happy with Anthony Bryant as backup DT. Give Carricker and Golston as backups at DE and the Skins might not be that bad off. Of course, this is pure speculation.
 
#2,638
#2,638
Tuck: You can't put a price on how much Cofield meant to our defense - Giants Blog - ESPN New York

Justin Tuck would’ve done anything to keep free agent Barry Cofield.

But it wasn’t his decision, and the Giants were outbid for the defensive tackle’s services by the Redskins.

“I pushed hard to get that guy back because I know how important he is to the entire scheme of our defense,” Tuck said. “He’s one of those guys that you really can’t put a price on how much he meant to this football team. If I had it my way -- and I’m sure the Giants did -- but I would try my best to get him back.”
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#2,639
#2,639
I love the Cofield pickup and believe he's being paid what he deserves. I'm scratching my head about the Bowen pickup because a backup with 11 starts is being paid the same as a guy who was a centerpoint of a Super Bowl winning team, has 5x the number of starts and is in his prime.

Guess/hope the coaches know something about Bowen that I don't (which is inordinately likely). It's just confusing that a guy like that commands that much money while not actually showing much (on a comparative scale).

I remember thinking the same thing when the Titans picked up Ryan Fowler from the Cowpokes and paying him something like $2.5mil/year to play MLB because he was a stud in Special Teams. That worked out well for the Titans.
 
#2,640
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TrueOrange said:
I will never understand why teams insist on trading with the patriots and making them better
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I would seriously think that making the Pats better was the absolute last thing on the Skin's mind when dumping this lazy, fat, pos slob. Just my opinion...
 
#2,641
#2,641
Practice just started and Fred Davis has a "WR feel" as he has lost 15 lbs. Trent Williams has shed 10lbs from cutting fast food out of his diet and looks great
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#2,642
#2,642
Redskins resign OT Jammal Brown, acquire RB Tim Hightower via trade Redskins Gab

First, the Redskins took care of “one of their own” – almost a novelty in comparison to the days when the team was run by Vinny Cerrato – re-signing Offensive Tackle Jammal Brown to a 5 year, $27.5 million deal. Even while drawing interest from Arizona, Kansas City, and Chicago, Brown wanted to remain in Washington, and the Redskins obliged.

“My heart was here with the Washington Redskins and I believe in the chemistry Mike Shanahan is building,” Brown said in a telephone interview Sunday evening. “He’s a Super Bowl coach and I think we can win a Super Bowl, too. We started something special last year. I want to be a part of that.”
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Having a healthier Brown, in addition to newly signed guard Chris Chester, gives the Redskins a completely revamped look on the right side of their offensive line. Chester is already familiar with offensive line coach Chris Foerster’s scheme (Foerster was the offensive line coach for the Ravens from ’05-’07), and Brown obviously has a year of experience within the scheme as well, one of the biggest reasons Mike Shanahan wanted to bring Brown back.

If Brown really is healthy, the Redskins could be getting an outstanding player for a relatively modest price, given what is current market value for stalwart offensive tackles. Brown was a Pro Bowl selection in 2006, and was once considered one of the game’s true up-and-coming tackles. He’s an absolute mauler with a mean streak when healthy, so even though the transition to the right side has been somewhat difficult for him, it’s a position where he fits very well.

In addition to re-signing Brown, the Redskins also acquired Running Back Tim Hightower from the Arizona Cardinals, in exchange for Defensive End Vonnie Holliday and a conditional late-round draft pick that’s based upon playing time.

Hightower is entering his fourth season in the NFL. He lead the Cardinals in rushing in 2010 with 736 yards on 153 attempts (4.8 avg.), and had five rushing touchdowns. He was overlooked coming out of the University of Richmond (he wasn’t even invited to the NFL Scouting Combine) due to being somewhat of a a “tweener” (at 6’0 & 222lbs, too big for a running back and too small for a fullback), but he’s been a productive runner in his short NFL career to date. In 48 career games (including 36 starts), Hightower has rushed for 1,733 yards and 23 touchdowns on 439 carries, and also has 118 receptions for 801 yards.
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#2,643
#2,643
Between picking up Hightower and drafting Helu and Royster combined with Torain and Williams we have quite a few relatively big backs (all are at ~6' and ~220lbs). Trading Holliday for a productive back in his 4th season for a DL in his 14th is a good one. I hope the "undisclosed pick" isn't anything above 5th Round.


Picking up Chester and getting Brown resigned were very important as the OL must have consistency in chemistry. That was, if I recall, one of the things Shanahan was known for in his good years at Denver.
 
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#2,645
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Yankee_Vol said:
Man, Shanahan really loves RBs
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True. It'll be interesting to see the RB battle break out this year. Between James Davis, Keiland Williams and Ryan Torain from last year and Hightower (starter, I expect), Helu, Royster and Draughn... I expect at least 1/2 of them will be sent home.

I imagine the depth Chart will look like this:

Hightower
Torain
Winner of Williams/Helu/Royster battle
2nd of above battle
 
#2,646
#2,646
I think Helu makes it and probably Royster

Davis won't and I wouldn't be surprised if Williams didn't
 
#2,648
#2,648
He has little 'tude and is expecting big bucks since A) the Eagles are shelling out early 2000 Snyder $$ and B) He is broke and living with players

and Shanny likes the recent pick up of CB Josh Wilson who is a hometown boy (went to Dematha)
 
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