Harsin may be on the way out

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bamawriter said:
If they wind up using the alleged mistress as a reason to fire him for cause, then Freeze is off the table.

And while it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach out to Kiffin, I cannot think of a single reason why Kiffin would take that job.
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if they try to hire Kiffin after all this with his history with coeds.....lol
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Harsin is completely outnumbered down on The Plains. He’s a Northwestern guy, he’s obviously ruffled a lot of feathers down there, I’m not sure exactly what caused the situation, but it’s never seemed like a good marriage from day one .

If this situation with the assistant is true, and I believe there is something there, I don’t know how you hire Freeze given his history. And While Kiffin’s antics haven’t been as widely publicized, everyone knows his stories and even someone like me who is well removed from Knoxville has heard private stories of some of Kiffin’s interactions with coeds on campus. I have zero business knowing anything about Lane’s personal life, but I know a guy who worked at his house when he was in college. I’m guessing there are a lot of guys like me that know a guy when it comes to Lane.

If Auburn does get rid of Harsin I would go the interim route and just try and regroup next year.
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I also think Harsin is there 100% for the money as well, in all likelihood. He might not be feeling a super strong incentive to repair relationships. He seemed like such an odd fit from the beginning - not because he's a bad coach (I think he's actually probably a pretty good coach) but because he had precisely zero ties to Auburn or this part of the country. College football, relative to other sports, is still kind of a parochial game. A lot of your success or failure is driven by connections with recruits and other coaches (or lack thereof), and usually from a particularly geographical area. Harsin was born, raised, and went to school (both HS and college) in Boise. Once school was over, he coached there from 2001-2010 then again from 2014-2020. It seems like his "dream job" was probably either the Boise St job that he had, or maybe Oregon or USC. Does anybody think he felt some particular affinity towards Auburn, other than the fact they almost tripled his salary?

Now I'm not naive and I know that $$$ is a huge reason why coaches make these kinds of moves, but for many there are also other considerations in play (chances of success at the new job, cultural fit, etc.). We see coaches all the time turn down huge salary increases because the "fit" isn't right. I don't think Harsin did that here.
 
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Boston Vol said:
No I don’t have any children. What’s your point? Are trying to say that if I had a daughter I would feel differently about some random person on a message board posting pics of her? No, I wouldn’t feel differently in that situation, I would tell her that it’s her own fault for posting pictures on her social media account for the world to see.
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Really? You don't have a daughter but are certain that you would treat her that coldly?

Kids make mistakes. Kids make big, embarrassing mistakes.
 
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sjt18 said:
Really? You don't have a daughter but are certain that you would treat her that coldly?

Kids make mistakes. Kids make big, embarrassing mistakes.
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Anyone with a daughter should explain to them, at an early age, not to text or post anything they wouldn’t want the entire world to see.

If after having that conversation, your daughter chose to ignore that guidance, she is then left to deal with the consequences of her choices.

If that conversation never takes place, then that young woman’s parents failed her completely.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Anyone with a daughter should explain to them, at an early age, not to text or post anything they wouldn’t want the entire world to see.

If after having that conversation, your daughter chose to ignore that guidance, she is then left to deal with the consequences of her choices.

If that conversation never takes place, then that young woman’s parents failed her completely.
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In regards to this situation, I really doubt she thinks having these pictures up as a mistake. She’s a few years removed from being not really as attractive as she is now . She probably worked very hard to look the way she looks now . She looks good and she is probably very proud of how she looks and might be enjoying the attention. That’s the reality we live in today. Some people are having a hard to grasping the notion that this girl can be ok with the photos she has posted, even it would be difficult for us to think about our own kids in a similar situation.
 
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I would tell her that it’s her own fault for posting pictures on her social media account for the world to see.[/QUOTE]

No. You wouldn't.
 
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DukeDaisySam said:
No. You wouldn't.
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Yeah actually I would. I love the fact that the some of same people who bemoan the lack of personal responsibility in society are twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to defend her decision to post personal photos on a social media account for everyone to see.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
In regards to this situation, I really doubt she thinks having these pictures up as a mistake. She’s a few years removed from being not really as attractive as she is now . She probably worked very hard to look the way she looks now . She looks good and she is probably very proud of how she looks and might be enjoying the attention. That’s the reality we live in today. Some people are having a hard to grasping the notion that this girl can be ok with the photos she has posted, even it would be difficult for us to think about our own kids in a similar situation.
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There’s no question she wants the general public to look at her pictures, otherwise her profile would be private.

There’s little to suggest she’s embarrassed by any of this attention.

My gripe is with people here suggesting that parents choose empathy over tough love in the event their daughter found themselves on the receiving end of unwanted attention, based on pictures that should not have been posted….AFTER giving proper parental guidance on what information should (and shouldn’t) be made public on social media.

I think we are in agreement.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
There’s no question she wants the general public to look at her pictures, otherwise her profile would be private.

There’s little to suggest she’s embarrassed by any of this attention.

My gripe is with people here suggesting that parents choose empathy over tough love in the event their daughter found themselves on the receiving end of unwanted attention, based on pictures that should not have been posted….AFTER giving proper parental guidance on what information should (and shouldn’t) be made public on social media.

I think we are in agreement.
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FWIW, she's also posted to her IG story today. She in all likelihood loves the attention and is eating this up.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Anyone with a daughter should explain to them, at an early age, not to text or post anything they wouldn’t want the entire world to see.

If after having that conversation, your daughter chose to ignore that guidance, she is then left to deal with the consequences of her choices.

If that conversation never takes place, then that young woman’s parents failed her completely.
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Exactly. I have two grown daughters that I gave the same advice to about social media. If you are stupid enough to post provocative and incriminating photos for the world to see, it is on you and there is nobody else to blame. I’ve seen people not get hired over questionable social media posts. Sure people make mistakes but that one is easily avoidable. Just don’t do it.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. He's not. No matter what "wrong" you deem the girl has done... that doesn't make what adult, grown, 30+ men are doing right.
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They are doing what she has allowed them to do. Parents should teach their kids to use social media responsibly. She is an adult.

Hell, you may have a bigger problem with what these men are doing, than her.
 
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sjt18 said:
Really? You don't have a daughter but are certain that you would treat her that coldly?

Kids make mistakes. Kids make big, embarrassing mistakes.
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I have two grown daughters and I would still tell them if they screwed up and posted something that would embarrass them or our family. Just because they are out of the house doesn’t mean I stopped being Dad. And yes, they still listen to my opinion. That is no mistake on her part. It is obviously intentional not making it private.
 
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