Has there ever been a more overvalued Conference(Big east '09)?

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lidderer said:
right, and I said they have a good interior D, not they are a great team. And then I showed how the ill-chic. game had nothing to do with interior D. Um, good one.

But why would you point out that about the SEC? Everyone here agress the SEC is bad.
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BPV said DePaul would beat most of the SEC. You disputed that.
 
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Hat, you and BPV seem to agree on this subject. I'd wonder if you'd feel comfortable saying the Big East will have 5 MORE teams in the Sweet 16 than the SEC/PAC 10 combined. It shouldn't be that big of a stretch from reading the rest of this thread.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Wonder if UIC's team and it's offensive focus has anything to do with those stats? Hmmm. Sure makes one curious.
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you don't know anything about this team, do you?

They are one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the country.
 
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Oldblood said:
Hat, you and BPV seem to agree on this subject. I'd wonder if you'd feel comfortable saying the Big East will have 5 MORE teams in the Sweet 16 than the SEC/PAC 10 combined. It shouldn't be that big of a stretch from reading the rest of this thread.
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it really depends on the matchups. cal, ucla, or asu could make the sweet 16 if they find teams whose perimeter D stinks. I wouldnt' bet on it though.
 
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droski said:
it really depends on the matchups. cal, ucla, or asu could make the sweet 16 if they find teams whose perimeter D stinks. I wouldnt' bet on it though.
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I agree. That's why I say 1-2 teams from the two conferences COMBINED find a way to sneak in.
 
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Oldblood said:
Hat, you and BPV seem to agree on this subject. I'd wonder if you'd feel comfortable saying the Big East will have 5 MORE teams in the Sweet 16 than the SEC/PAC 10 combined. It shouldn't be that big of a stretch from reading the rest of this thread.
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no. One and done tourneys are unpredictable by their very nature and the draw determines much of the final 16.

I think the Big East will have 5 or 6 still standing, but I don't believe the Pac 10 / SEC combined will have only one or less.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
no. One and done tourneys are unpredictable by their very nature and the draw determines much of the final 16.

I think the Big East will have 5 or 6 still standing, but I don't believe the Pac 10 / SEC combined will have only one or less.
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I just don't see that many Big East teams making it. Too many things would have to fall into place. Even if they got 10 teams in, more than half would have to advance. That didn't happen last year (8 in and 3 in 16).
 
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hatvol96 said:
If Cal makes the Sweet 16, someone will have absorbed a really bad second round loss.
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if you shoot well over 40% 3s you can beat anyone theoretically. :)

espn's bracketology had cal at a 4th seed. i imagine the osu loss might have opened some eyes.
 
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Oldblood said:
I just don't see that many Big East teams making it. Too many things would have to fall into place. Even if they got 10 teams in, more than half would have to advance. That didn't happen last year (8 in and 3 in 16).
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they weren't as good last year. UConn losing in a fluke certainly hurt, as well.
 
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droski said:
it really depends on the matchups. cal, ucla, or asu could make the sweet 16 if they find teams whose perimeter D stinks. I wouldnt' bet on it though.
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cal more so than most will rely on that. Harden and pendy inside for asu makes them a little more able to handle teams that can get out on you.
 
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Oldblood said:
I just don't see that many Big East teams making it. Too many things would have to fall into place. Even if they got 10 teams in, more than half would have to advance. That didn't happen last year (8 in and 3 in 16).
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UCONN, Pitt, and Lousiville are mortal locks to play the secomd weekend. That means 3 of the other 6 likely entrants have to get there to give them 5 . I'll gladly make that wager with anyone who wants some of it.
 
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Oldblood said:
Flukes happen.
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in one and done affairs, all the freaking time.

If the odds held and the best teams advanced as expected, the Big East would have many, many reps in the sweet 16.

If any of their top 6 or 7 teams don't make it, it will be an upset.
 
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hatvol96 said:
UCONN, Pitt, and Lousiville are mortal locks to play the secomd weekend. That means 3 of the other 6 likely entrants have to get there to give them 5 . I'll gladly make that wager with anyone who wants some of it.
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Good point. I'm not a betting man. I just think that their could be upsets leading to them having less than 5-6 in the second weekend. I am sure that many more of your bball predictions have been right than mine.
 
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thankfully no one takes lunardi seriously around here. I love how like an hour before the announcement he shuffles his bracketology site. Good stuff, Joe.

But ya, that's a great point about how bracketology and that ilk have that many BE teams that far: overvalued.
 
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lidderer said:
thankfully no one takes lunardi seriously around here. I love how like an hour before the announcement he shuffles his bracketology site. Good stuff, Joe.

But ya, that's a great point about how bracketology and that ilk have that many BE teams that far: overvalued.
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which team. who's better? I'll give you that Marquette is overvalued. G'town is overvalued, but still damn good. Louisville is undervalued. As is UConn.
 
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Oldblood said:
Good point. I'm not a betting man. I just think that their could be upsets leading to them having less than 5-6 in the second weekend. I am sure that many more of your bball predictions have been right than mine.
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It will take a number of substantial upsets to keep the Big East under 5 teams on the second weekend.
 
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lidderer said:
thankfully no one takes lunardi seriously around here. I love how like an hour before the announcement he shuffles his bracketology site. Good stuff, Joe.

But ya, that's a great point about how bracketology and that ilk have that many BE teams that far: overvalued.
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i'd say he's been pretty darn accurate over the years.
 
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I doubt the Big East will have more than 6 teams seeded 4 or higher. So in my mind it would take two upsets to put less than 5 of their teams in the second weekend.
 
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