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#26
therealUT said:
This statement still does not justify nor foes it accurately explain your first statement which referred to GWB running the organization into the ground.
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His teams won nothing. They traded Sammy Sosa for a bag of baseballs and an equipment bag. I will grant that his performance running the Rangers is the high point of his executive career.
 
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hatvol96 said:
His teams won nothing. They traded Sammy Sosa for a bag of baseballs and an equipment bag. I will grant that his performance running the Rangers is the high point of his executive career.
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The Rangers have only made the postseason 3 times in their history. 1996 was the first time the Rangers appeared in the playoffs. GWB was involved with the Rangers from 1989-1998. I would hardly call that running the team into the ground.

Trading Sammy Sosa??? How do you bring that into this discussion? Sammy Sosa has won about as much as the Rangers have...nothing.

I would say that signing in the carry and conceal law was the high point of his executive career prior to his election to POTUS.
 
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therealUT said:
I would say that signing in the carry and conceal law was the high point of his executive career prior to his election to POTUS.
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Signing a bill pandering to redneck gun nuts in the abortion of a state that is Tejas. Lofty accomplishment.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's he's an imbecile?
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And, you're a rocket scientist!

You asked for executive accomplishments. I provided two, prior to his election to POTUS. Whether you agree with the legislation that he signed in to law, does not matter. It most certainly is something he set out to accomplish, as the Chief Executive of the State of Texas, and did accomplish.

Prior to his election to POTUS, BHO had yet to ever sign any bill in to law. He had executive experience as the President of the Harvard Law Review. That is it. As the Junior Senator from Illinois, BHO co-sponsored 3 pieces of legislation that passed in the Senate.
 
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therealUT said:
And, you're a rocket scientist!

You asked for executive accomplishments. I provided two, prior to his election to POTUS. Whether you agree with the legislation that he signed in to law, does not matter. It most certainly is something he set out to accomplish, as the Chief Executive of the State of Texas, and did accomplish.

Prior to his election to POTUS, BHO had yet to ever sign any bill in to law. He had executive experience as the President of the Harvard Law Review. That is it. As the Junior Senator from Illinois, BHO co-sponsored 3 pieces of legislation that passed in the Senate.
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Passing pro gun legislation in Texas. That's an arduous task requiring amazing political acumen and courage.
 
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VolByBirth said:
A valid argument. In fact, everyone on both sides should be cheering that a black man was elected President. For Dems it's a huge social moment for Civil Rights and blacks in history. For Reps they can now lay claim that affirmative action, entitlements, and special preference is no longer needed.

I can't understand why more Reps weren't behind him just for this reason.
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hailing him because he is black is only continuting the "race cycle" who cares if hes black, i dont care if our president is green as long as he does the job.
 
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VolByBirth said:
A valid argument. In fact, everyone on both sides should be cheering that a black man was elected President. For Dems it's a huge social moment for Civil Rights and blacks in history. For Reps they can now lay claim that affirmative action, entitlements, and special preference is no longer needed.
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If appointing two African-Americans to Secretary of State does not demonstrate that special preference for race is no longer needed in America, then elected an African-American to POTUS won't either.
 
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dantheman617 said:
This will never end...

Will Obama have to be better because he's black? - CNN.com
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You can say whatever you like about the man's credentials or lack there of in your opinion, but the fact is that the average black person(meaning people who are responsible, work, provide for their families, etc.) this is a true. It's not about a victim mentality, it's realizing that people form opinions about you before you even open your mouth.
 
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MG1968 said:
and sometimes, in the cases of Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, Clarence Thomas and Condoleeza Rice, it doesn't matter how hard you've worked to become who you are, if you don't spout a particular political orthodoxy, you are considered a failure and called rude names like "Uncle Tom".
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How right you are!!

The NAACP was created by the same people who provided Lenin's sealed train and had no Afro-American members for thirty years, it was fifty Years before the klan with a tan had an Afro-American president. It was all about politics, not people and cynically using those people for political purposes.



hatvol96 said:
That's he's an imbecile? That's always sufficient reason in my book.
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Who's an imbecile??? Your book must be a spiderman with Obama on the cover.



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ole_boi said:
You can say whatever you like about the man's credentials or lack there of in your opinion, but the fact is that the average black person(meaning people who are responsible, work, provide for their families, etc.) this is a true. It's not about a victim mentality, it's realizing that people form opinions about you before you even open your mouth.
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I understand where you are going here completely and agree, you do however realize that this can be said for anyone. As far as jobs go before you meet your interviewer face to face they have gone over your resume and have already formed opinions based upon your credentials.
 
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ole_boi said:
You can say whatever you like about the man's credentials or lack there of in your opinion, but the fact is that the average black person(meaning people who are responsible, work, provide for their families, etc.) this is a true. It's not about a victim mentality, it's realizing that people form opinions about you before you even open your mouth.
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I am sorry that you have had this experience. However, I know many black people who chose to stop seeing themselves as disadvantaged and have done very well in their careers and are well respected in the community by both blacks and whites.

We all have real or perceived disadvatages. I grew up on a farm in a rural area. We pretty much defined redneck. No one woould have thought I could do much more than the traditional factory work in the area. I have not been restricted in my career and countless others have risen above the level of their circumstance whether it be poverty, upbringing, or even skin color.
 
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Headed For Home said:
I am sorry that you have had this experience. However, I know many black people who chose to stop seeing themselves as disadvantaged and have done very well in their careers and are well respected in the community by both blacks and whites.

We all have real or perceived disadvatages. I grew up on a farm in a rural area. We pretty much defined redneck. No one woould have thought I could do much more than the traditional factory work in the area. I have not been restricted in my career and countless others have risen above the level of their circumstance whether it be poverty, upbringing, or even skin color.
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the problem with that is that these people are no longer black. to libs and the media, black is not a color, it is now a political philosophy. if you're black and a lib, then you are truly black. however, if you're black and conservative, then you're not really black.

any conservative who is black, is called alot of names and is accused of being a traitor to black people and is labeled as not really being black.
 
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Headed For Home said:
I am sorry that you have had this experience. However, I know many black people who chose to stop seeing themselves as disadvantaged and have done very well in their careers and are well respected in the community by both blacks and whites.

We all have real or perceived disadvatages. I grew up on a farm in a rural area. We pretty much defined redneck. No one woould have thought I could do much more than the traditional factory work in the area. I have not been restricted in my career and countless others have risen above the level of their circumstance whether it be poverty, upbringing, or even skin color.
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what part of my post did you read anything about me feeling disadvantaged? I agree with your point above about blacks doing well in their careers...my mother is one of those people and she instilled those same qualities in me. the point is, those "black people you know who didn't view themselves as disadvantaged..." much like you took a negative and made a positive, but assuming when what era you grew up in, they may have had it a bit more rough (see jim crow-segregation).
 
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#48
joevol320 said:
the problem with that is that these people are no longer black. to libs and the media, black is not a color, it is now a political philosophy. if you're black and a lib, then you are truly black. however, if you're black and conservative, then you're not really black.

any conservative who is black, is called alot of names and is accused of being a traitor to black people and is labeled as not really being black.
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By who? been any black churches lately?
 
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