Herschel Walker, US Senator

[luthervol]

Uhm. It won.

Unfortunately true. But he won with a horrible strategy, and one which will harm our nation for decades to come.

 

[Wireless1]

Hillary skipped states as well and it cost her the election. Her strategy was worse

Calling people "deplorables" wasn't exactly the same strategy?

 

[BreatheUT]

It wasn't worse because it was not nearly as divisive.

The original divider in chief was Obama. He was just eloquent about it.

 

[luthervol]

Luther should be more clear then as to his intent.

It was as clear as I wanted it to be. A large part of my enjoyment comes from seeing who understands.

 

[luthervol]

The original divider in chief was Obama. He was just eloquent about it.

Segregationists and integrationists were both divisive, but in no way equally reprehensible.

 

[BreatheUT]

Segregationists and integrationists were both divisive, but in no way equally reprehensible.

Cute but silly comparison.

 

[luthervol]

Calling people "deplorables" wasn't exactly the same strategy?

That was a mistake. One she paid dearly for.
Now multiply that mistake by 100 and you begin to approach the Trump campaign.

 

[luthervol]

Cute but silly comparison.

Not at all.
Why something is divisive is a critical component.
Looking more closely at why some found Obama divisive and many more found Trump divisive, would be enlightening.

 

[utvolpj]

It wasn't worse because it was not nearly as divisive.

She's every bit as divisive for people who aren't fragile little shut-ins

 

[luthervol]

She's every bit as divisive for people who aren't fragile little shut-ins

Well she's wasn't, but we will never reach agreement on that.

 

[RockyTop85]

Well he was wrong on the tactics so who the hell really knows

Was he? I don’t remember anything specific, but the whole “he’s not hurting the people he was supposed to hurt” thing had to come from somewhere.

 

[utvolpj]

Was he? I don’t remember anything specific, but the whole “he’s not hurting the people he was supposed to hurt” thing had to come from somewhere.

I think saying his goal was to make the left hate him is pretty wrong. His goal for entering was simply marketing. Unfortunately there was a huge group of candidates and some voters took Trump seriously

 

[hog88]

It was as clear as I wanted it to be. A large part of my enjoyment comes from seeing who understands.

 

[RockyTop85]

I think saying his goal was to make the left hate him is pretty wrong. His goal for entering was simply marketing. Unfortunately there was a huge group of candidates and some voters took Trump seriously

Ok. I don’t think that goal for entering and strategy for winning after he got the nomination are the same thing but I understand what you are saying.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Unfortunately true. But he won with a horrible strategy, and one which will harm our nation for decades to come.

Bull. If you really believe that, you need to go find a safe place, curl up and cry. Grow the hell up.

 

[GroverCleveland]

It was as clear as I wanted it to be. A large part of my enjoyment comes from seeing who understands.

I know; I watch your game. And have fun with it as well.

 

[luthervol]

Bull. If you really believe that, you need to go find a safe place, curl up and cry. Grow the hell up.

I have no need of a safe space; I never did. My life is great.
Recognizing the reality of a situation in no way indicates the need of a safe space.
However, not recognizing the obvious reality of a situation may very well be an indicator that one does need to grow the hell up.

 

[volfanhill]

She's every bit as divisive for people who aren't fragile little shut-ins

She described 46-48% of the voting public in this country deplorable. That's about as divisive as you can get.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

That was a mistake. One she paid dearly for.
Now multiply that mistake by 100 and you begin to approach the Trump campaign.

Blaming Trump is a coping mechanism to avoid personal responsibility and self evaluation.

 

[luthervol]

She described 46-48% of the voting public in this country deplorable. That's about as divisive as you can get.

No she didn't.

 

[volfanhill]

No she didn't.

I am sorry you are right. It was 23%-24%. Most divisive thing ever uttered by a POTUS candidate since civil rights era.

 

[utvolpj]

No she didn't.

And Trump didn't describe all illegals as rapists but the narrative stuck

 

[luthervol]

I am sorry you are right. It was 23%-24%. Most divisive thing ever uttered by a POTUS candidate since civil rights era.

It was a mistake to say it.
Multiply it by 100 and you start approaching the divisiveness of Trump's campaign.
The fact that Trump's intentional divisiveness was an effective strategy, is what led to Clinton's statement.

 

[luthervol]

And Trump didn't describe all illegals as rapists but the narrative stuck

His intent was obvious, which again, is what led to Clinton's statement.

 

[DonjoVol]

Segregationists and integrationists were both divisive, but in no way equally reprehensible.

It's democrats and Biden trying to bring back segregation. No surprise since he had mentors like James Eastland.