Higgs boson?

[gsvol]

Are there any resident VN scientists who can explain this a little better to me? More detailed implications?



Has the Higgs Particle Been Discovered? | IdeaFeed | Big Think

Know what a quark is?

 

[n_huffhines]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/s...ered-higgs-boson-particle.html?pagewanted=all

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Now, supersymmetry is needed for the even grander string theory. String theory is at the heart of M-Theory which is ultimately the theory of everything. I am sure you guys have heard of string theory and know of all the possible implications of M-Theory. Pretty fascinating stuff.

Hope this helps.

Could you explain both?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Could you explain both?

No problem.

String theory is the theory that the most fundamental things in the universe are vibrating strands of energy called "strings". Some strings are "open" and others are "closed" (you can think of this as either a single piece of rope vs a rope tied in a circle). Similar to the strings on a guitar, each string is able to function differently to produce a different result (on a guitar, sound). Depending on how they vibrate (both amplitude and frequency), these strings of energy give rise to everything in the universe. Remember, matter and energy are indistinguishable in physics; hence E=mc2.

When string theory was being developed, theoretical physicists and brilliant mathematicians were competing to map out the language of string theory (the mathematical equations). They were basically all attacking the same problem from all different directions. This caused there to be many different competing "string theories". The math for all of them seemed to be correct. This caused wide spread confusion and scientists turned away from string theory as a viable theory.

In walks a theoretical physicist (from Michigan I believe, his name escapes me) with a couple undergraduate colleagues and flips everything upside down. They realized that all the different competing string theories were correct. They were just describing different sides of the same coin, if you will. The different string theories had different calculations, equations, and number of different dimensions. These guys realized that all the string theories fit perfectly within a 11-dimension universe. The math was beautifully perfect. This 11-dimension, master version of string theory is M-theory. The "M" stands for either "magic", "mystery", or "matrix".

The 11-dimension universe consists of the three spatial dimensions we are accustom to (x plane, y plane, z plane), time, plus seven more that we are unaware of as humans.

So, M-theory and string theory are essentially one-in-the-same. Here are some implications:

1) The Big Bang Theory as we know it could be in trouble. Under M-theory, our universe could have very easily been cause by two D-Branes (basically whole universes) colliding. If true, another D-Brane could be a trillionth of an inch away from your nose and if it was to ever collide with your nose, another Big Bang would happen.

2) Our grade school version of gravity is entirely false. Gravity is nothing more than a force from another universe interacting with our own universe.

3) Parallel universes exists. The probably are connected. They are probably infinite in number. Everything you do in this universe, has a equal and opposite reaction in another. Basically, every choice you have made in this life, in another universe you have done the opposite. Wrap your head around that. Other universes almost certainly have different laws of physics, biology, chemistry, and mathematics. Oh btw, there are probably passageways from our universe to them, also known as wormholes.

4) Eternal return is possible. Nietzsche will be validated in his belief that life is absurd. He went crazy from the implications of eternal return because he thought eternal return was fact.

5) Ghosts, if you believe in them, could be energy trapped in other dimensions.

6) Some people we deem as "crazy" in our society and lock up in a insane asylums might not be crazy at all. They might for whatever reason be able to tap into one of the other 7 dimensions. They would actually be aware of a higher reality than us.

7) It strengths the hologram principal first discovered in the lab. Basically, our reality is nothing more than a hologram. The only thing that matters is information which cannot be destroyed.

8) Given 1,4,and 7, if the universe is finite, and gravity has the power to overcome dark energy and dark matter, the big crunch will ensue. If such a thing happens, Frank Tipler's Omega Point Theory would gain validity. His theory would seemingly predict immortality for everything. Big, big if's, but it's intriguing none the less.

Hope this helps.

 

[Weezer]

Oddly enough, a lifetime of watching sci-fi TV shows helped me to understand some of that, though I still got a headache.

 

[MG1968]

Know what a quark is?

a TV character played by Richard Benson?

an ally of Ratchet and Clank?

the bartender on Deep Space Nine?

 

[Velo Vol]

I read several claims that this is the "biggest discovery in 100 years."

None of them bothered to include what, as a practical matter, this actually changes.

Still no cure for cancer.

 

[hog88]

All very interesting but is it worth the billions of $$ spent and billions yet to be spent to find/prove it exsists? Is/will there be a use?

 

[VOLatile]

All very interesting but is it worth the billions of $$ spent and billions yet to be spent to find/prove it exsists? Is/will there be a use?

Without CERN, you wouldn't have the internet as it exists today. So, their budget is worth it, IMO.

 

[hog88]

Without CERN, you wouldn't have the internet as it exists today. So, their budget is worth it, IMO.

So Al Gore invented CERN???

 

[Volst53]

No problem.

String theory is the theory that the most fundamental things in the universe are vibrating strands of energy called "strings". Some strings are "open" and others are "closed" (you can think of this as either a single piece of rope vs a rope tied in a circle). Similar to the strings on a guitar, each string is able to function differently to produce a different result (on a guitar, sound). Depending on how they vibrate (both amplitude and frequency), these strings of energy give rise to everything in the universe. Remember, matter and energy are indistinguishable in physics; hence E=mc2.

When string theory was being developed, theoretical physicists and brilliant mathematicians were competing to map out the language of string theory (the mathematical equations). They were basically all attacking the same problem from all different directions. This caused there to be many different competing "string theories". The math for all of them seemed to be correct. This caused wide spread confusion and scientists turned away from string theory as a viable theory.

In walks a theoretical physicist (from Michigan I believe, his name escapes me) with a couple undergraduate colleagues and flips everything upside down. They realized that all the different competing string theories were correct. They were just describing different sides of the same coin, if you will. The different string theories had different calculations, equations, and number of different dimensions. These guys realized that all the string theories fit perfectly within a 11-dimension universe. The math was beautifully perfect. This 11-dimension, master version of string theory is M-theory. The "M" stands for either "magic", "mystery", or "matrix".

The 11-dimension universe consists of the three spatial dimensions we are accustom to (x plane, y plane, z plane), time, plus seven more that we are unaware of as humans.

So, M-theory and string theory are essentially one-in-the-same. Here are some implications:

1) The Big Bang Theory as we know it could be in trouble. Under M-theory, our universe could have very easily been cause by two D-Branes (basically whole universes) colliding. If true, another D-Brane could be a trillionth of an inch away from your nose and if it was to ever collide with your nose, another Big Bang would happen.

2) Our grade school version of gravity is entirely false. Gravity is nothing more than a force from another universe interacting with our own universe.

3) Parallel universes exists. The probably are connected. They are probably infinite in number. Everything you do in this universe, has a equal and opposite reaction in another. Basically, every choice you have made in this life, in another universe you have done the opposite. Wrap your head around that. Other universes almost certainly have different laws of physics, biology, chemistry, and mathematics. Oh btw, there are probably passageways from our universe to them, also known as wormholes.

4) Eternal return is possible. Nietzsche will be validated in his belief that life is absurd. He went crazy from the implications of eternal return because he thought eternal return was fact.

5) Ghosts, if you believe in them, could be energy trapped in other dimensions.

6) Some people we deem as "crazy" in our society and lock up in a insane asylums might not be crazy at all. They might for whatever reason be able to tap into one of the other 7 dimensions. They would actually be aware of a higher reality than us.

7) It strengths the hologram principal first discovered in the lab. Basically, our reality is nothing more than a hologram. The only thing that matters is information which cannot be destroyed.

8) Given 1,4,and 7, if the universe is finite, and gravity has the power to overcome dark energy and dark matter, the big crunch will ensue. If such a thing happens, Frank Tipler's Omega Point Theory would gain validity. His theory would seemingly predict immortality for everything. Big, big if's, but it's intriguing none the less.

Hope this helps.

Open the damn star gate

 

[golfballs]

All very interesting but is it worth the billions of $$ spent and billions yet to be spent to find/prove it exsists? Is/will there be a use?

Time travel

 

[Burhead]

All very interesting but is it worth the billions of $$ spent and billions yet to be spent to find/prove it exsists? Is/will there be a use?

I'd spend billions on science than fighting wars and such. :hi:

 

[Danl]

I'd spend billions on science than fighting wars and such. :hi:

Every Damn Day

 

[rockytop9808]

Why is this in the political forum?

It's only political for religious fundies.

 

[Weezy]

Why is this in the political forum?

It's only political for religious fundies.

Welcome to the poli board.

 

[TennTradition]

I've always thought the Pub and the Parlor made more sense than the Pub and the Politics forum...

 

[milohimself]

So Al Gore invented CERN???

Excelsior!

 

[BenGrimm]

 

[volved]

POLITICIANS: How can we tax these bosons?

 

[BenGrimm]

POLITICIANS: How can we tax these bosons?

Force them to by healthcare.... Duh.

 

[10 team parlay]

No problem.

String theory is the theory that the most fundamental things in the universe are vibrating strands of energy called "strings". Some strings are "open" and others are "closed" (you can think of this as either a single piece of rope vs a rope tied in a circle). Similar to the strings on a guitar, each string is able to function differently to produce a different result (on a guitar, sound). Depending on how they vibrate (both amplitude and frequency), these strings of energy give rise to everything in the universe. Remember, matter and energy are indistinguishable in physics; hence E=mc2.

When string theory was being developed, theoretical physicists and brilliant mathematicians were competing to map out the language of string theory (the mathematical equations). They were basically all attacking the same problem from all different directions. This caused there to be many different competing "string theories". The math for all of them seemed to be correct. This caused wide spread confusion and scientists turned away from string theory as a viable theory.

In walks a theoretical physicist (from Michigan I believe, his name escapes me) with a couple undergraduate colleagues and flips everything upside down. They realized that all the different competing string theories were correct. They were just describing different sides of the same coin, if you will. The different string theories had different calculations, equations, and number of different dimensions. These guys realized that all the string theories fit perfectly within a 11-dimension universe. The math was beautifully perfect. This 11-dimension, master version of string theory is M-theory. The "M" stands for either "magic", "mystery", or "matrix".

The 11-dimension universe consists of the three spatial dimensions we are accustom to (x plane, y plane, z plane), time, plus seven more that we are unaware of as humans.

So, M-theory and string theory are essentially one-in-the-same. Here are some implications:

1) The Big Bang Theory as we know it could be in trouble. Under M-theory, our universe could have very easily been cause by two D-Branes (basically whole universes) colliding. If true, another D-Brane could be a trillionth of an inch away from your nose and if it was to ever collide with your nose, another Big Bang would happen.

2) Our grade school version of gravity is entirely false. Gravity is nothing more than a force from another universe interacting with our own universe.

3) Parallel universes exists. The probably are connected. They are probably infinite in number. Everything you do in this universe, has a equal and opposite reaction in another. Basically, every choice you have made in this life, in another universe you have done the opposite. Wrap your head around that. Other universes almost certainly have different laws of physics, biology, chemistry, and mathematics. Oh btw, there are probably passageways from our universe to them, also known as wormholes.

4) Eternal return is possible. Nietzsche will be validated in his belief that life is absurd. He went crazy from the implications of eternal return because he thought eternal return was fact.

5) Ghosts, if you believe in them, could be energy trapped in other dimensions.

6) Some people we deem as "crazy" in our society and lock up in a insane asylums might not be crazy at all. They might for whatever reason be able to tap into one of the other 7 dimensions. They would actually be aware of a higher reality than us.

7) It strengths the hologram principal first discovered in the lab. Basically, our reality is nothing more than a hologram. The only thing that matters is information which cannot be destroyed.

8) Given 1,4,and 7, if the universe is finite, and gravity has the power to overcome dark energy and dark matter, the big crunch will ensue. If such a thing happens, Frank Tipler's Omega Point Theory would gain validity. His theory would seemingly predict immortality for everything. Big, big if's, but it's intriguing none the less.

Hope this helps.

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What does this mean for m theory? Is said theory hurt BC of the measurement taken? Is it strengthened?

 

[Thrasher865]

All very interesting but is it worth the billions of $$ spent and billions yet to be spent to find/prove it exsists? Is/will there be a use?

You really have no idea of the implications of quantum research, do you?

For one, the transistor. Basically the single most important technological invention of our entire race.

 

[Thrasher865]

I think quantum field theory is much more reasonable than string theory.

Quantum theory can be proven with experimentation, but correct me if I'm wrong, string theory cannot.

 

[PKT_VOL]

?
What does this mean for m theory? Is said theory hurt BC of the measurement taken? Is it strengthened?

In short, it strengthens M-Theory.

For a more in-depth answer here is a post from earlier that explains it.

I guess I'll try to give some insight.

Quantum Mechanics is at many crossroads. One of the leading theories is the Standard Particle Model which predicts the existence of the Higg boson. Theoretical physicists have predicted the existence of the Higg boson and the Higg Field for quite a while. What they are not sure of is the mass of Higg bosn. There is a certain range which the mass must fall into in order for the Standard Particle Model to continue. The 125 GeV cited in the link falls into that range.

Now for the bigger picture. The Higg boson or "God's Particle" at a mass of 125 GeV would create very strong evidence for the Standard Partial Model. It provides another clue to the interaction between electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force; the electroweak interaction. The Standard Particle Model is necessary for the bigger theory of supersymmetry.

For those don't know about the theory of supersymmetry, it states that we live in a fundamentally asymmetrical universe at the present time. However, at the beginning of time, the Big Bang, there existed something which is referred to as supersymmetry. Think of supersymmetry as the children's tale of Humpy Dumpty. There was this beautiful super force which was uniform and consistent. This super force consisted of the four known forces of our present universe: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force. At the moment of the Big Bang, the mass began to expand rapidly. The super force was stretched like a rubber band until it broke down into the four forces which we know about today. From that moment on, the universe has been hopelessly asymmetrical.

Now, supersymmetry is needed for the even grander string theory. String theory is at the heart of M-Theory which is ultimately the theory of everything. I am sure you guys have heard of string theory and know of all the possible implications of M-Theory. Pretty fascinating stuff.

Hope this helps.