High School teachers please explain !

[TNBV]

Commitment is a word better taught through action and example rather than vocabulary and lesson, and the onus is on the home and the parents to be that example.

Education is and always has been a simple equation. You get what you put in and the rewards of hard work are exponential. I have students in the same class, listening to the same lecture, completing the same work, and I add, blessed with the same ability who score completely different during an assessment. Why? Effort trumps ability every time when all things are equal.

I had 27 kids earn an F one year on a report card because they simply refused to turn in the assignments. 27 out of 75. I had one parent of those 27 contact me. Education is not valued at home any longer.

I could write an entire book on this, but for the sake of brevity and the fact that it's Saturday, and I really just want to read about my vols hosting some absolute beasts this weekend, followed by a game of ultimate frisbee, before watching what I hope will be a beat down of Memphis...I'll stop here. Go Vols!

Sorry, but when I read this I couldn't help but think of Caddy Shack "I have sentenced kids younger than you to the electric chair. Didn't want to do it.......felt I owed it too them". Anyway, if you are playing ultimate in TN, I bet we know some of the same folks.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

I blame tea drinkers.

Maybe if it was smoked.

 

[reederw]

It is very obvious to me that high school students do not have a clue what the word commitment means. Actually a commitment by a student athlete is really not worth a dime until he signs on the dotted line. Your word is no longer your bond(hasn't been for decades). lt It is my understanding that many schools across America do not even teach spelling any longer. Word meaning and reading comprehension are severely lacking also. And we wonder why our public secondary schools are so far behind in the education of our children. As a holder of a BS Degree in Secondary Education it is so obvious to me why so many children are being home schooled, as well as private schools are increasing in attendance daily ! So, fellow teachers if you cannot teach spelling in high schools across America, please, at least please explain to them what a few words mean.

Well I used to be a high school teacher for 15 years. I have three degrees. My last degree was in Instructional Leadership (EdS). The amount of pressure on teachers is beyond measure. If you teach a subject (science in my case) and are on a block schedule you have roughly 70 school days to teach everything that will be required for an End of Course exam. That 70 days is barring any snow, sickness, typhoon, plague, or other catastrophe that can happen. That amount of time is ridiculous. I did teach word meaning and comprehension as it related to my subjects. As a high school teacher you hope that a middle school teacher has done their job and taught basic material so when you get them you are not a step behind.

Children act out what they see and hear. What kinds of examples are they seeing on TV, internet, and at home?

Raising productive adults is supposed to be a partnership between all parties.

It should be our COMMITMENT to exhibit behavior that we want to see in our society.

I am not attacking you or anyone else. We have a systemic problem in our country where we wonder why things are spiraling out of control.

And everyone should understand that you don't need a degree to TEACH young people how to act.

 

[keenobserver]

That was not my point that it was the high school teachers sole responsibility to teach all word meanings. I guess I should have stressed that spelling in general helps students learn word meaning and a general use of the English language. I would like to think that students knew what many words meant prior to the high school level.

spelling in general helps students learn word meaning.....

My degree is not in Education, but I cant believe that this is a true statement

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Sorry, but when I read this I couldn't help but think of Caddy Shack "I have sentenced kids younger than you to the electric chair. Didn't want to do it.......felt I owed it too them". Anyway, if you are playing ultimate in TN, I bet we know some of the same folks.

We very well might. It's a large state though. Pick up every Saturday in J.C. if you're up this way.

 

[DaddyChad]

Basically a kid from a household that values education will generally succeed academically. One from a household that doesn’t care will generally fail. Some failures of the education system for sure is on teachers but for the most part the parents are going to decide success or failure. They’re also going to decide which values are instilled into kids.

 

[RollerVol]

society has BVS...yes it has spread throughout America's parents and teachers to our children...the cure is a win over the Hoosiers...

GO BIG ORANGE....BEAT THE HOOSIERS!

 

[MarcoVol]

I'd settle for just making sure kids are educated and not just getting by. Too many football players showing up to college not educated enough to remain there. Case in point, the rumors about Pickens at UGA. A lot of it is laziness on the part of the student, but teachers need to take note of these kids as well. Their parents too. It's just a cluster. Football isn't forever, an education lasts a lifetime. JMO, of course.

This is the fault of a broken and underfunded education system as a whole.

 

[savannahfan]

It is very obvious to me that high school students do not have a clue what the word commitment means. Actually a commitment by a student athlete is really not worth a dime until he signs on the dotted line. Your word is no longer your bond(hasn't been for decades). lt It is my understanding that many schools across America do not even teach spelling any longer. Word meaning and reading comprehension are severely lacking also. And we wonder why our public secondary schools are so far behind in the education of our children. As a holder of a BS Degree in Secondary Education it is so obvious to me why so many children are being home schooled, as well as private schools are increasing in attendance daily ! So, fellow teachers if you cannot teach spelling in high schools across America, please, at least please explain to them what a few words mean.

This is a character trait that should be taught at home by family (parents and hopefully by grandparents, if they are still alive). Being able to spell or look up "your bond" in a dictionary (be it a book or a devise) is the main big responsibility of a school teacher. Taking on things other than readin, writtin, and rithmetic etc. are the responsibility of family. I know, these things are not being taught at home very much these days. Mostly because discipline, as we older folks know, is now a crime. "Character and honor" are suffering due in big part to our liberal stance on social behavior and discipline. This liberal attitude has even had a negative impact on the military's ability to instill their time honored traditions.

 

[savannahfan]

This is the fault of a broken and underfunded education system as a whole.

No - that is a totally different subject not something to be part of a "sports forum". Find a forum on education and social matters. That is if it is not so liberal the participants cannot say what they think because it might be politically incorrect.

 

[teeball]

spelling in general helps students learn word meaning.....

My degree is not in Education, but I cant believe that this is a true statement

Really? Do you think if we taught spelling that young people today might know the difference between there/their or loss/lose/loose or hundreds of other words and meanings? I do.

 

[Rishvol]

Commitment is a word better taught through action and example rather than vocabulary and lesson, and the onus is on the home and the parents to be that example.

Education is and always has been a simple equation. You get what you put in and the rewards of hard work are exponential. I have students in the same class, listening to the same lecture, completing the same work, and I add, blessed with the same ability who score completely different during an assessment. Why? Effort trumps ability every time when all things are equal.

I had 27 kids earn an F one year on a report card because they simply refused to turn in the assignments. 27 out of 75. I had one parent of those 27 contact me. Education is not valued at home any longer.

I could write an entire book on this, but for the sake of brevity and the fact that it's Saturday, and I really just want to read about my vols hosting some absolute beasts this weekend, followed by a game of ultimate frisbee, before watching what I hope will be a beat down of Memphis...I'll stop here. Go Vols!

Don't forget needlessly passing kids with IEPs (100% Pickens) so it doesn't seem like we're not following the law to the letter

 

[TlM]

 

[Weezer]

This is the fault of a broken and underfunded education system as a whole.

I think that is a huge part of the problem, but you have to include the human factor. There's more than enough blame to go around, but you can't convince me that teachers are unaware they are failing to address some of the basic needs of some students. They're overworked and underpaid, but I just can't see that as an excuse for letting any student slip through the cracks. I don't know what the solution is, but I don't believe there is any one thing to blame. Many people bear the responsibility.

 

[Seattle Hillbilly]

Commitment is a word better taught through action and example rather than vocabulary and lesson, and the onus is on the home and the parents to be that example.

Education is and always has been a simple equation. You get what you put in and the rewards of hard work are exponential. I have students in the same class, listening to the same lecture, completing the same work, and I add, blessed with the same ability who score completely different during an assessment. Why? Effort trumps ability every time when all things are equal.

I had 27 kids earn an F one year on a report card because they simply refused to turn in the assignments. 27 out of 75. I had one parent of those 27 contact me. Education is not valued at home any longer.

I could write an entire book on this, but for the sake of brevity and the fact that it's Saturday, and I really just want to read about my vols hosting some absolute beasts this weekend, followed by a game of ultimate frisbee, before watching what I hope will be a beat down of Memphis...I'll stop here. Go Vols!

Amen brother.

 

[yourstruly23]

 

[FLVOL_79]

I dont care about commitment..I want to know what type of schools don't teach kids how to spell anymore? Are these "schools" like Juvie?

 

[peerless98]

That was not my point that it was the high school teachers sole responsibility to teach all word meanings. I guess I should have stressed that spelling in general helps students learn word meaning and a general use of the English language. I would like to think that students knew what many words meant prior to the high school level.

Not even remotely close to true!

 

[KPT_VFL]

Marijuana is a gateway drug.

 

[AlaskanVol66]

Look at the National Felon League and the college coaching circus if you want to see what they think commitment looks like.

 

[Smokeyone]

Commitment is a word better taught through action and example rather than vocabulary and lesson, and the onus is on the home and the parents to be that example.

Education is and always has been a simple equation. You get what you put in and the rewards of hard work are exponential. I have students in the same class, listening to the same lecture, completing the same work, and I add, blessed with the same ability who score completely different during an assessment. Why? Effort trumps ability every time when all things are equal.

I had 27 kids earn an F one year on a report card because they simply refused to turn in the assignments. 27 out of 75. I had one parent of those 27 contact me. Education is not valued at home any longer.

I could write an entire book on this, but for the sake of brevity and the fact that it's Saturday, and I really just want to read about my vols hosting some absolute beasts this weekend, followed by a game of ultimate frisbee, before watching what I hope will be a beat down of Memphis...I'll stop here. Go Vols!

I pulled daughter out of a school in rural Ga (she went K-3) and put her in the Maryville school system in blount county. The system she was in had smaller class sizes, well paid teacher but also had a 63% on time graduation rate. Were Maryville school stories are universally positive the last 15 stories from the old district were drug laced candy, 3 bomb threats, PSA about gang violence at football games, student brings gun to school to shoot 3 5th grader as gang retaliation, more gangs in school, more drugs, counselor buys students shoes, test scores up 7 points, still well below state average, etc.

My daughter stayed in trouble at the old school and while not a model student she is light years ahead of where she was. Positive peer pressure, staff with hope, different goals in education, that was the difference.

 

[MarcoVol]

No - that is a totally different subject not something to be part of a "sports forum". Find a forum on education and social matters. That is if it is not so liberal the participants cannot say what they think because it might be politically incorrect.

I do believe I can post my opinion on this forum as I see fit. But thanks for sharing.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Speaking or teachers, y’all see that fairly hot texas teacher that just got caught banging 2 students?! Where the hell were these teachers when I was in hs?

 

[Type Orange+]

It ain't the coffee drinkers, that's for sure.

Or the beer drinkers.

 

[AngryButchJones]

There have been a lot of really weird, off the wall threads started on here before. This one is a whole different level.