Hillary Clinton Uses Personal Email for State Business

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Velo Vol said:
Witch hunt.
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I agree, she was SOS for crying out loud. A person capable of holding such a high office should by default have our trust. If she says she turned over everything why shouldn't we believe her? When has a Clinton ever lied?
 
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hog88 said:
I agree, she was SOS for crying out loud. A person capable of holding such a high office should by default have our trust. If she says she turned over everything why shouldn't we believe her? When has a Clinton ever lied?
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It depends on what the meaning of the word "lied" is.
 
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The G.reedy O.ld P.arty is slinging sh!t on the wall to see what will stick. They're scared sh!tless of Hillary! :post-4-1090547912: OBTW, bush's SOS deleted all his e-mails, hypocrites ! :shakehead:
 
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orangeluvr said:
The G.reedy O.ld P.arty is slinging sh!t on the wall to see what will stick. They're scared sh!tless of Hillary! :post-4-1090547912: OBTW, bush's SOS deleted all his e-mails, hypocrites ! :shakehead:
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Any link to your last statement?
 
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orangeluvr said:
Don't néed one , it's common knowledge . :yes:
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No it's not. Can you link where bush's SOS only used a personal email server hosted from their home and then wiped all those drives clean? That would be a huge story
 
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orangeluvr said:
The G.reedy O.ld P.arty is slinging sh!t on the wall to see what will stick. They're scared sh!tless of Hillary! :post-4-1090547912: OBTW, bush's SOS deleted all his e-mails, hypocrites ! :shakehead:
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So you are celebrating a lack of transparency and accountability of elected politicians at the highest levels of our government?
 
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utvolpj said:
No it's not. Can you link where bush's SOS only used a personal email server hosted from their home and then wiped all those drives clean? That would be a huge story
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Tossing **** against the wall to see what will stick maybe?

He's a pretty good poo flinger.
 
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hog88 said:
I agree, she was SOS for crying out loud. A person capable of holding such a high office should by default have our trust. If she says she turned over everything why shouldn't we believe her? When has a Clinton ever lied?
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She was wrong to set up her own email system, but the committee is just using this is an excuse for more Benghazi fundraisers, or whatever it is that they do. They're not going to find any more answers in the emails than they've found in the last three years of hunting.
 
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Email controversies are great fundraisers and chances for 15 minutes of fame on the talking head shows. They are means to try and dig up some ambiguity in someone's statement to scream "lies" on some other topic of investigation.

What's sad is that even after previous "issues" little change ever makes its way into the system. Security and protocols still suck. Procedures are hardly, if ever, changed. It's obvious because of those lack of results neither party truly cares about the issue and would rather them continue just to give them the means to accuse the other side of "conspiracy" and to be able to fundraise and sell themselves on radio and television.

Bush White House email controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Velo Vol said:
She was wrong to set up her own email system, but the committee is just using this is an excuse for more Benghazi fundraisers, or whatever it is that they do. They're not going to find any more answers in the emails than they've found in the last three years of hunting.
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True but she is the one positioning herself for a POTUS run. All of this is fair game for the opposition, you're kidding yourself if you don't think her opponents in the primaries wont bring it up.
 
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Heaven forbid we actually find out who screwed up while Americans were killed. Talk about taking the eye off of the ball. It's upside down that more people care about covering up for politicians than solving this.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Email controversies are great fundraisers and chances for 15 minutes of fame on the talking head shows. They are means to try and dig up some ambiguity in someone's statement to scream "lies" on some other topic of investigation.

What's sad is that even after previous "issues" little change ever makes its way into the system. Security and protocols still suck. Procedures are hardly, if ever, changed. It's obvious because of those lack of results neither party truly cares about the issue and would rather them continue just to give them the means to accuse the other side of "conspiracy" and to be able to fundraise and sell themselves on radio and television.

Bush White House email controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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They may be great fundraisers, but in this case Americans died and the public has a right to know the truth. This isn't some deal where attorneys got fired. Four Americans were murdered, the Administration couldn't ever get their story straight and investigations were hampered right and left.

This one, like the link you posted, is far too convenient to just be a "mistake." But the major difference is people died and the truth won't come out.
 
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Grand Vol said:
They may be great fundraisers, but in this case Americans died and the public has a right to know the truth. This isn't some deal where attorneys got fired. Four Americans were murdered, the Administration couldn't ever get their story straight and investigations were hampered right and left.

This one, like the link you posted, is far too convenient to just be a "mistake." But the major difference is people died and the truth won't come out.
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I just wish there was as much diligence towards all deaths as there is towards these four. It seems we get selective with looking into when people die and finding out the reasons behind said death. Our government has been full of incompetent decisions leading to deaths - mainly to the conflicts we get involved with. Seeing the amount of soldiers who have died in these adventures over the past 15-20 years, have we been as thorough in investigating all of those as well?
 
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How many years of hearings did they have when 241 Americans were killed in Beirut?

If Benghazi is the model we should be holding them until at least 2163.
 
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Velo Vol said:
She was wrong to set up her own email system, but the committee is just using this is an excuse for more Benghazi fundraisers, or whatever it is that they do. They're not going to find any more answers in the emails than they've found in the last three years of hunting.
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She was also wrong to wipe it after receiving a subpoena.

This isn't directed at you but I can't believe people are condoning her actions and further that they will offer their full-throated support for her.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I just wish there was as much diligence towards all deaths as there is towards these four. It seems we get selective with looking into when people die and finding out the reasons behind said death. Our government has been full of incompetent decisions leading to deaths - mainly to the conflicts we get involved with. Seeing the amount of soldiers who have died in these adventures over the past 15-20 years, have we been as thorough in investigating all of those as well?
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So now we need a place to start. Well why don't we start here with Bengazi? Since you agree that our government has been full of incompetent decisions leading to deaths.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I just wish there was as much diligence towards all deaths as there is towards these four. It seems we get selective with looking into when people die and finding out the reasons behind said death. Our government has been full of incompetent decisions leading to deaths - mainly to the conflicts we get involved with. Seeing the amount of soldiers who have died in these adventures over the past 15-20 years, have we been as thorough in investigating all of those as well?
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You do bring a valid point here. But I'll also counter with the question of how many of those deaths were lied about constantly until the pressure became so great that the lie wouldn't stick? Iraq? Afghanistan? Did Congress not approve military action in both those cases? Perhaps on flawed intelligence or even a lie, but it's not like the Bush Administration deleted the intelligence about it. Overstated would be a more likely term to use.

Now we have Benghazi getting blamed on a YouTube video? C'mon. And it's not the lie, or unfounded intelligence as a minimum, it's the fact they stuck with it even when it was shown that it was unfounded. And the efforts to conceal the truth? The fact that when it was going on, there was credible intelligence that suggested otherwise? Or the fact that the President decided it was better to pack for a fundraiser (since we're on that topic) rather than go to the situation room and get updates. And the fact that no rescue was even attempted even though the assets were in place for a potential extraction.

Now we have a personal email server that was used by a sitting SecState for various purposes that's suddenly wiped clean of potential evidence? I can't buy it from the IRS and I won't buy it from the Department of State. It's way, way, way too convenient that emails that are supposed to be public record suddenly disappear in the government this day in age. And furthermore, emails that could potentially incriminate higher level government employees are suddenly, and suspiciously, disappearing and getting "deleted."

I know you're smarter than this. And I would hope you can see the bigger picture here. This isn't about fundraising although it hasn't hurt anyone involved at the moment. It's about the most transparent Administration in history continuing to mislead, lie, delete and otherwise conceal the truth from the People.

And it really does get old after a while...
 
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