How does Coach Grade out to this Point (mid-season)

[Freak]

Who cares about Arks. coach?

The bottom line is UT is 3-3 and had UF and UGA right where he wanted them and UT didn't win.

It's as simple as that.

It's really not quite that simple, but okay.

 

[Aesius]

Who cares about Arks. coach?

The bottom line is UT is 3-3 and had UF and UGA right where he wanted them and UT didn't win.

It's as simple as that.

When the hell did we have UF right where we wanted them?

The bottom line is that CBJ put the team in a position to win against UGA. A team that really had no business being in that position to win. I'm sorry you can't see that.

 

[Freak]

That's why recruiting rankings are really flawed.

Unless you have a flux capacitor, it's the best option.

 

[Boca Vol]

It's really not quite that simple, but okay.

When the hell did we have UF right where we wanted them?

Good lord, some of you are dense. The bottom line is that CBJ put the team in a position to win against UGA. A team that really had no business being in that position to win. I'm sorry you can't see that.

You two are really reaching. Did you see UF's offense yesterday? Had UT not turned the ball over umpteen times against UF they beat them.

I would like for both of you to give me a better scenario than UT intercepting a pass for a TD and taking their starting QB out for the game.

 

[Boca Vol]

Unless you have a flux capacitor, it's the best option.

I totally agree. They're ranking 17-18 year old kids. A lot happens once they step on campus.

 

[Freak]

UF lost its starting QB in the 1st qtr. They brought in Mariota Light and let him control the game.

UGA, UT had the lead with under 2 minutes to go.

Yes, UT should have at least won the UGA game and had UF in the best position to beat them in a while....since last year.

I remember the games, I just disagree with penalizing a coach with a 5/10 for competing until the end against teams with superior talent. :hi:

 

[Freak]

You two are really reaching. Did you see UF's offense yesterday? Had UT not turned the ball over umpteen times against UF they beat them.

I would like for both of you to give me a better scenario than UT intercepting a pass for a TD and taking their starting QB out for the game.

I think you're missing my point. I'm probably not making it clearly.

 

[Weezer]

You can't rate recruiting in October on the four-year careers of the recruits. All we have to go on at this point is ratings and whether we are filling positions of need.

It's really impossible to NOT rate recruiting an A at this point.

I agree with the part I bolded. NSD is still months away and these young men change their minds more often than they change their underwear. Butch seems to be hitting all the right recruiting buttons atm, but until midtermers are enrolled or LOIs signed, I'll stay cautiously optimistic. Rating recruiting right now is premature.

On the field, I've seen good, I've seen bad. IMO, it's too early to dub him the savior of UT football. It's also too early to say he'll be a bust. The ops question was how does he grade out to this point. On the field, this team has won when they were expected and lost when they were expected. That sounds average to me.

I'm not downing CBJ, but I'm also not looking at everything through orange-shaded glasses. It is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[chavisut]

7

 

[Volunteer forever]

4 stars

 

[Boca Vol]

I remember the games, I just disagree with penalizing a coach with a 5/10 for competing until the end against teams with superior talent. :hi:

Competing until the end is great and all...it's time to win games!

I think you're missing my point. I'm probably not making it clearly.

No, I don't think so. UF and UGA were down/wounded and could have/ should have been beatem.

Mizzou didn't have a problem yesterday, did they?

 

[oregonvol]

Are you factoring in recruiting?

You can't possibly be and still give him a five, so where do you rank him overall, including recruiting?

Huh? You mean the 2013 class? I didn't think it was that impressive.

Or are you talking about the 2014 class? I'm supposed to factor in a class that hasn't signed? How does that work?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Scale of 1-10

I grade him an 8.

Positive-
Passionate.
Play calling.
Leadership
Does not make excuses.
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Negative

None to speak of. Perhaps a bit unprepared for the Oregon debacle.

How can you leave "recruiting" off the positives???

 

[Chilmonty]

Hard to say overall, but the improvement on special teams from last year has been miraculous! Palardy!! :dance2:


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[Chilmonty]

Hard to say overall, but the improvement on special teams from last year has been miraculous! Palardy like a rock star!! :dance2:


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[spears8510]

Hard to say overall, but the improvement on special teams from last year has been miraculous! Palardy like a rock star!! :dance2:


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Lol ikr. Special teams have done a complete 180.

 

[Burger]

You two are really reaching. Did you see UF's offense yesterday? Had UT not turned the ball over umpteen times against UF they beat them.

I would like for both of you to give me a better scenario than UT intercepting a pass for a TD and taking their starting QB out for the game.

If, ifs and buts were candy and nuts. We'd all have a sweet and salty Christmas.

 

[DaddyChad]

I'll rate him a 10 on recruiting and passion for the program.

I'll hold off on the coaching part for at least a little while but there has been marked improvement on defense and special teams this year. I'm not sure what else can be evaluated fairly at this time with the schedule we have and the talent disparity.

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

How do you rate a guy that takes over a program as fouled up as ours was at the end of last year? Decimated senior/junior class from transfers, rejects, and guys leaving early, a team full of guys coached by a revolving door of coaches and assistant coaches who had different schemes every year, NCAA issues, and an engrained losing mentality throughout the whole program. 6 games into his first season and we are 3 n 3 with a top 5 recruiting class and showing fight dispute still having issues on O and D. We are in deep water but I think give a couple of rough seasons and he pulls us out of the ditch. Give him 4 to 5 seasons and we are in the NC picture again.

 

[lincolncovol]

You think a five is passing? I should have gone to your school.

I think I did I scored a bunch of fives and still graduated with honors too!! Everybody said it was because I played sports, I told everybody they tried too hard, they could've scored 5's and graduated too.

 

[photovol]

So far Butch get's a 5 for on field performance and a 10 for next years recruiting class. I'm still waiting on his 1st SEC win.

 

[mtm1963]

6 1/2

 

[sjt18]

3-3
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Pretty much agree.

I'd say C+ overall considering the recruiting class he's managing to build. On the 1-10 scale... maybe a 6.

Oregon was an absolute embarrassment and NOT a good job of coaching. However the team and the coaching has improved since. But I really cannot see anything above a C+ until he beats someone who matters.

 

[sjt18]

How do you rate a guy that takes over a program as fouled up as ours was at the end of last year?

Oh, I don't know... maybe just like folks rated Dooley pretty quickly after inheriting a TRULY messed up program.

Decimated senior/junior class from transfers, rejects, and guys leaving early,

Oh? Jr QB, 4 Sr OL's and one JR, six of the first 8 on the DL upperclassmen. First 5 or 6 LB's upper classmen.

There were and ARE roster issues... but not nearly as bad or abnormal as many of you want to think.

a team full of guys coached by a revolving door of coaches and assistant coaches who had different schemes every year,

True. But some of those guys were quality coaches and especially on the OL.

NCAA issues,

That really doesn't touch the players much.

and an engrained losing mentality throughout the whole program.

How about expanding on that a little. Frankly, that's a pretty tired excuse for a coach who has been in charge for about 10 months now.

6 games into his first season and we are 3 n 3 with a top 5 recruiting class and showing fight dispute still having issues on O and D.

He has beaten no one he wasn't supposed to beat and has lost to everyone who he was expected to lose to. At this point, he has not proven he can get it done ON the field. A championship coach is the difference between winning and losing in some games. If you are waiting on UT to have talent so dominant that Les Miles could win a NC with them... you are likely to wait a long while.

We are in deep water but I think give a couple of rough seasons and he pulls us out of the ditch. Give him 4 to 5 seasons and we are in the NC picture again.

UT doesn't have 4 or 5 seasons to give him. He has to prove he can outcoach someone long before that.

 

[volfan411]

I would give him a 5 based on the fact that he has beat everyone he is supposed to and lost every game he was supposed to.

I do not factor in recruiting because I have always believed Tennessee recruits itself when we have a capable coach. Kiffin proved it in the lone season he was here and Fulmer had top 10 classes year in and year out. I expect a coach to have a top 10 class with our facilities.