how funny

#76
#76
hatvol96 said:
I could give a damn about party affiliation. Voting according to that is for the mentally infirm, the uninformed, and the lazy. Give me an intelligent candidate who understands the miniscule part the federal government should play in the everyday lives of Americans and they'll get my vote.
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I take it then that you have seldom if ever voted, due to the lack of a qualified candidate.
 
#77
#77
allvol123 said:
Sounds good to me, just don't know that I see those people.
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There was a time when you had a number of guys on the national scene who hit those marks. Then, the democrats ran guys like John Breaux out of politics with their profligate spending and attempts at social engineering and the republicans jettisoned guys like Bill Weld for not buying into their religious lunacy and unrepentant bigotry.
 
#79
#79
hatvol96 said:
I've never had a problem finding such candidates. It's not difficult if one bothers to look past the first two lines on the ballot.
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Fair enough, I should have stipulated that the candidate had to have a hope in hell of winning, in Presidential elections anyway.
 
#80
#80
hatvol96 said:
People who 1. don't spend tax dollars like lottery windfalls, 2. realize the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot put into, or take out of, their own bodies, 3. don't treat our military like their own private hessians by using them to settle personal grudges and engage in neo colonial expansion, 4. prefer science to fairy tales and fables, 5. understand that the Fourth Amendment is a whole Hell of a lot more important to one's personal liberty than the Second, 6. realize "issues" like gay marriage, flag burning, and prayer at high school graduations aren't issues at all, and 7. at least have a modicum of knowledge of the world outside their own back yard.
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I'd vote for you.
 
#81
#81
hatvol96 said:
People who 1. don't spend tax dollars like lottery windfalls, 2. realize the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot put into, or take out of, their own bodies, 3. don't treat our military like their own private hessians by using them to settle personal grudges and engage in neo colonial expansion, 4. prefer science to fairy tales and fables, 5. understand that the Fourth Amendment is a whole Hell of a lot more important to one's personal liberty than the Second, 6. realize "issues" like gay marriage, flag burning, and prayer at high school graduations aren't issues at all, and 7. at least have a modicum of knowledge of the world outside their own back yard.
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:good!:
 
#82
#82
hatvol96 said:
People who 1. don't spend tax dollars like lottery windfalls, 2. realize the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot put into, or take out of, their own bodies, 3. don't treat our military like their own private hessians by using them to settle personal grudges and engage in neo colonial expansion, 4. prefer science to fairy tales and fables, 5. understand that the Fourth Amendment is a whole Hell of a lot more important to one's personal liberty than the Second, 6. realize "issues" like gay marriage, flag burning, and prayer at high school graduations aren't issues at all, and 7. at least have a modicum of knowledge of the world outside their own back yard.
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All I can say to this post is...................

:rock::rock::rock:
 
#83
#83
hatvol96 said:
I've never had a problem finding such candidates. It's not difficult if one bothers to look past the first two lines on the ballot.
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Sadly the mouth breathing public can't understand that premise. The choices available in the last presidential election were non choices. Sorta like someone asking if you would rather be killed by strangulation or drowning. The ultimate result is the same and even more ridiculous they are both causing the death by asphyxiation.
 
#84
#84
hatvol96 said:
That's what the black community needs. A bunch of arrogant and paternalistic suburban and rural Bible thumpers to "educate" them.
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I think your view of the republican party as being Bible thumpers is every bit as flawed as the right viewing those on the left as a bunch of godless heathens. That may be your view of the party but I can assure you not all or even most republicans would fall into the category of Bible thumpers.
 
#85
#85
hmanvolfan said:
Sadly the mouth breathing public can't understand that premise. The choices available in the last presidential election were non choices. Sorta like someone asking if you would rather be killed by strangulation or drowning. The ultimate result is the same and even more ridiculous they are both causing the death by asphyxiation.
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So true. If I mention I didn't vote for Obama, it's immediately assumed I voted for McCain. Why would I, when the difference between the two was rhetorical?

So Barr it was.
 
#86
#86
hatvol96 said:
People who 1. don't spend tax dollars like lottery windfalls, 2. realize the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot put into, or take out of, their own bodies, 3. don't treat our military like their own private hessians by using them to settle personal grudges and engage in neo colonial expansion, 4. prefer science to fairy tales and fables, 5. understand that the Fourth Amendment is a whole Hell of a lot more important to one's personal liberty than the Second, 6. realize "issues" like gay marriage, flag burning, and prayer at high school graduations aren't issues at all, and 7. at least have a modicum of knowledge of the world outside their own back yard.
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Agreed. The sad truth is we have not had any serious contender from either party representing these beliefs. And I don't think either party will give us candidate like his anywhere in the near future.
 
#87
#87
hatvol96 said:
George Bush and Dick Cheney are the "lunatic fringe" of the GOP?
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outside of iraq, i don't see that bush and cheney's "lunatic fringe" beliefs dictated their public policy. the same certainly cannot be said for obama.

hatvol96 said:
I've never had a problem finding such candidates. It's not difficult if one bothers to look past the first two lines on the ballot.
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this argument allowed a socialist to be elected president. it also allowed bush to be elected president. sometimes you have to vote for the lessor of two evils. not voting for either can have serious consequences.
 
#88
#88
hatvol96 said:
No, the left's idiot wing thinks you can negotiate with religious nuts, like the Taliban. The GOP's lunatic fringe is inhabited by religious nuts. That's the difference.
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Comparing fundamentalist Muslims to fundamentalist Christians is ludicrous. How many people have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Christians in the past 10 years? Compared to how many that have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Muslims?
 
#89
#89
droski said:
this argument allowed a socialist to be elected president. it also allowed bush to be elected president. sometimes you have to vote for the lessor of two evils. not voting for either can have serious consequences.
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You're making a rather large assumption that those who didn't vote for either Obama or McCain, would have voted for McCain if there weren't other choices available.

Are you saying that people should not vote for whom they want for some perceived greater good for the Repub party?
 
#90
#90
HawaiiVol said:
You're making a rather large assumption that those who didn't vote for either Obama or McCain, would have voted for McCain if there weren't other choices available.

Are you saying that people should not vote for whom they want for some perceived greater good for the Repub party?
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no a precieved greater good for the american society. lots of dems voted for nadar instead of gore. that got an idiot like bush elected.

there is no question that mcccain didn't excite the republican base. so a lot stayed home or voted for the third party. allowing obama to get elected is a hell of a lot worse than having a socially liberal republican as president.
 
#91
#91
droski said:
no a precieved greater good for the american society. lots of dems voted for nadar instead of gore. that got an idiot like bush elected.

there is no question that mcccain didn't excite the republican base. so a lot stayed home or voted for the third party. allowing obama to get elected is a hell of a lot worse than having a socially liberal republican as president.
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While i agree with the post I feel I have to point out that either of those presidents would have been horrible. JMO.
 
#92
#92
KB5252 said:
While i agree with the post I feel I have to point out that either of those presidents would have been horrible. JMO.
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true, but you are forgetting that bush essentially got obama elected. i'm not sure the same outcome would have happened with gore as president the past 8 years.
 
#93
#93
droski said:
true, but you are forgetting that bush essentially got obama elected. i'm not sure the same outcome would have happened with gore as president the past 8 years.
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No but the outcome would have probably been equally dramatic as far as the shift in power went. If Gore had been elected we would probably have taken a huge swing to the right just as we did with Obama being elected (monumental swing to the left) the outcome would likely have been just as bad.
 
#94
#94
KB5252 said:
No but the outcome would have probably been equally dramatic as far as the shift in power went. If Gore had been elected we would probably have taken a huge swing to the right just as we did with Obama being elected (monumental swing to the left) the outcome would likely have been just as bad.
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it's hard to imagine a worse outcome than we currently have, but who knows i guess.
 
#95
#95
It's fun to play the guessing game in hindsight.

I'll continue to vote for candidates whose policies most align with mine, instead of being strapped to a 2 party system and left thinking what could have been.

I may not be able to say I voted for a winner, but I sleep well knowing I didn't sell out on perceptions.
 
#96
#96
Vol_4_Life said:
Comparing fundamentalist Muslims to fundamentalist Christians is ludicrous. How many people have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Christians in the past 10 years? Compared to how many that have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Muslims?
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Yeah, Christians are just charitable folks we should all aspire to be like. I also like watching Christians try to whitewash history with the old "we haven't had an Inquisition in a long time." Snakehandlers are snakehandlers, regardless of what serpent they use.
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#97
#97
Vol_4_Life said:
Comparing fundamentalist Muslims to fundamentalist Christians is ludicrous. How many people have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Christians in the past 10 years? Compared to how many that have been killed for religious reasons by fundamentalist Muslims?
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Convenient time frame you got there.
 
#99
#99
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, Christians are just charitable folks we should all aspire to be like. I also like watching Christians try to whitewash history with the old "we haven't had an Inquisition in a long time." Snakehandlers are snakehandlers, regardless of what serpent they use.
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Don't forget the main reason they hate us is we "created a homeland" for the Jewish people.
 
#100
#100
Brewerw said:
Don't forget the main reason they hate us is we "created a homeland" for the Jewish people.
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Exactly. It was perfect logic. "The Germans committed atrocities against the Jews, so let's displace Palestinians to create a homeland for them." Awesome idea. Can't imagine how that would piss anyone off.
 
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