How much better is UGA?

[Ttucke11]

You have to realize Bama is on the decline. They haven’t been playing well for two years . The vols are upcoming but Ga is in the middle. I don’t just read stats I look at trends they can you a lot about teams

Check back on November 6th with your trends. But I anticipate we won't see you anymore.

 

[Sara Clark]

This is one of those games, neither fanbase should get too cocky about. This game can go either way, like it or not....that's the way it is.

 

[Ganative]

When we neuter you sorry mutts between your shrubbery in Athens can we expect you to show up and admit you were wrong?

Absolutely I’m not a poor sport

 

[Ganative]

Check back on November 6th with your trends. But I anticipate we won't see you anymore.

I have to deal with you vols daily , It’s all fun to me that’s the price you pay living in tn

 

[Ganative]

Lol. Textbook uga fan.

Passive aggressive, constantly beating their little chests all in an attempt at affirmation.

Sad, really. But what else can you expect from an program that names its athletic complex after a skidmark?

Would you rather I say Tn hasn’t won against us in 6 years and you won’t be winning anytime soon? I mean I’m laughing at the elephant nut tide fans and ole miss miss fans ? Until tn wins against the dawgs you and all vol fans are psh 3rd best

 

[Ganative]

Not too sure you understand the term “facts”

you provided your opinion……and didn’t even offer any substance to back up said opinion.

Facts tn had lost 6 in a row. Fact tn has not been able to score passed 17 points on Kirby the same coach, fact tn lost in Knoxville to ga 2021, fact Kirby wins by defense, fact ga has more players that can start off the bench. None of these are opinions. You wanted to know how much better Georgia was .
Fact you didn’t like my answer

 

[rltw1974]

At least be right before you spew your non sense. UGA is on a 5 game win streak. Butch Jones put 34 on Kirby and Pruitt put 21 on Kirby in 2020.

Damn, if you are going to troll get better at it!!!

 

[JoAllan]

Facts tn had lost 6 in a row. Fact tn has not been able to score passed 17 points on Kirby the same coach, fact tn lost in Knoxville to ga 2021, fact Kirby wins by defense, fact ga has more players that can start off the bench. None of these are opinions. You wanted to know how much better Georgia was .
Fact you didn’t like my answer

Again you clearly don’t understand facts.

You clearly could not dispute my post regarding your “fact” statement…….you merely went elsewhere because you could not dispute.

Fact - Georgia has NOT won 6 in a row.
Fact - Tennessee has scored 34 on Kirby
OPINION - ga has more players that can start off the bench

You SERIOUSLY have no idea what “fact” means do you?

 

[aaronvol]

Look, I totally expect Georgia to win by 10-17 points, if not more. Uga is loaded with top NFL talent and your qb should have won the Heisman last year. Truth is...Tennessee is still trying to find it's sea legs in college football. We haven't proven we can win with expectations, uga is defending champions, and I think smart is the best, and I mean absolute best coach in college football. Plus it's in Athens. We may struggle or lose to UK this week as well. Oh, if Tillman is back...he won't be really back, so if you take Hyatt out, we have no other threats. Hooker is good, but mostly overhyped because of heupels system. So, you have every reason to be confident. Not to mention our defense. Sheez. Granted, Bryce Young had a monster day...I mean monster day against us...but he is the second best qb to stetson. Stetson should do even better. I like your run game better. Your backs are better than Gibbs from Bama. So...in a few more years we could be ready to challenge you, but as of now I just don't see it.

 

[rjd970]

Win or lose I’m happy with the trajectory of the TN program. Why exactly are you here then? You certainly haven’t brought anything objective. Imo, you come across as every other bro under 25 years of age from the SEC rant.

I’ve kept telling myself this since the Pitt and Florida games. I didn’t even really care about the Bama game, I knew we would at least be competitive. That is why no matter what happens against GA I’ll still be happy with the future of the program. We are playing with house money and still winning. It’s all bonus and icing at this point. If GA wins, that sucks, but the conference is officially on notice and the fact that we have GA trolls on here two weeks before we play them makes me grin.

 

[Arrested Devolopment]

Facts tn had lost 6 in a row. Fact tn has not been able to score passed 17 points on Kirby the same coach, fact tn lost in Knoxville to ga 2021, fact Kirby wins by defense, fact ga has more players that can start off the bench. None of these are opinions. You wanted to know how much better Georgia was .
Fact you didn’t like my answer

Fact: you should check out Grammarly to level up your troll game.

 

[Arrested Devolopment]

Look, I totally expect Georgia to win by 10-17 points, if not more.

Why lose the game in your mind before it's even played? That's loserthink.

 

[VFL21]

You have to realize Bama is on the decline. They haven’t been playing well for two years . The vols are upcoming but Ga is in the middle. I don’t just read stats I look at trends they can you a lot about teams

In the past two years Bama has 2 SEC championships, 2 NC appearances, and 1 national championship. I know UGA fans aren’t known for being a bright bunch, but this is next level stupidity

 

[Winchester73]

Why lose the game in your mind before it's even played? That's loserthink.

Read his post again … he used the “invisible” blue font … all sarcasm.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

We will exploit their secondary. Our OL will give HH plenty of time to pick them apart.

 

[camp_steveo]

Uncle Lou on his latest video said Tennessee has a less than 30% chance of beating Georgia in Athens.

Uncle Lou is a good entertainer but I wouldn't bet on his predictions, especially not on a UGA game.

 

[camp_steveo]

I don't want to sit here and focus on UGA right now, but the first question that comes to mind is how good is their offensive line? UT has been good at stopping the run and pressuring / hurrying the QB. Assuming that continues against the Bulldogs, the Vols will be favored to win IMHO.

I know their O line is good, but so is Alabama's, LSU's, UFL's, and Pitt's. Yet, the Vols' D line was able to get after every one of those QBs pretty effectively.

That is the key IMO. The Vols' offense is a given. Score at a minimum low 40s. But if the D can disrupt SB and cause him to miscue on several throws, that will be reflected on the scoreboard.

Now, back to the UK game.

 

[Stephen Gray]

Not too sure you understand the term “facts”

you provided your opinion……and didn’t even offer any substance to back up said opinion.

In his mind his opinions are fact. I know that can't be be healthy, but I wonder if it feels good much of the time being so blissfully dumb?

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I have to deal with you vols daily , It’s all fun to me that’s the price you pay living in tn

I lived in Georgia for over 40 years and could not wait to get back to East Tennessee. The last 22 years have been like moving from hell to heaven. Now that our football seems to be improving, it just makes it that much better.

 

[aaronvol]

Why lose the game in your mind before it's even played? That's loserthink.

Dear Vol fan,

Read the entire post. Smile a bit. Read the room. We got this my man, we got this. (I said this to everyone in Alabama the week of the game)

Thanks, Fellow Vol Fan

 

[Arrested Devolopment]

Dear Vol fan,

Read the entire post. Smile a bit. Read the room. We got this my man, we got this. (I said this to everyone in Alabama the week of the game)

Thanks, Fellow Vol Fan

My bad, brother! I should have known.

 

[VolInNW]

Would you rather I say Tn hasn’t won against us in 6 years and you won’t be winning anytime soon? I mean I’m laughing at the elephant nut tide fans and ole miss miss fans ? Until tn wins against the dawgs you and all vol fans are psh 3rd best

I don't give a flying flip what you say, I'd just prefer you say it on the "Dawg"(insert stupid noun here) board. You are a typical uga fan, trolling an opponent's board in desperate need of everyone telling you how great uga is.

Do you notice Florida fans doing this here? No, you don't. Do you see Bammers over here trying to convince us how great they are? No. Why? Well, although I despise Florida and Bama, I acknowledge that both programs are mature programs, with success, and in general the older fans of both programs do not feel a need for affirmation from opponents.

Now, I think I'll just sit back and watch @Proud Army Wife mic drop you again across the goalposts of life.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Look, I totally expect Georgia to win by 10-17 points, if not more. Uga is loaded with top NFL talent and your qb should have won the Heisman last year. Truth is...Tennessee is still trying to find it's sea legs in college football. We haven't proven we can win with expectations, uga is defending champions, and I think smart is the best, and I mean absolute best coach in college football. Plus it's in Athens. We may struggle or lose to UK this week as well. Oh, if Tillman is back...he won't be really back, so if you take Hyatt out, we have no other threats. Hooker is good, but mostly overhyped because of heupels system. So, you have every reason to be confident. Not to mention our defense. Sheez. Granted, Bryce Young had a monster day...I mean monster day against us...but he is the second best qb to stetson. Stetson should do even better. I like your run game better. Your backs are better than Gibbs from Bama. So...in a few more years we could be ready to challenge you, but as of now I just don't see it.

Please tell me you forgot the blue font?

 

[Stephen Gray]

I did spend quite a bit of time looking at team statistics last night at: NCAA College Football FBS Stats | NCAA.com. I was mostly looking at Georgia and Tennessee but also kept my eye open for Kentucky, Alabama and even Florida, though I didn't include much about them here(I know we beat them but I was trying to get a feel for how our wins and remaining opponents compared in various categories). Mostly I talk about Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama in this post but you will see Kentucky pop up.

Georgia’s offense on paper is close to us in a bunch of categories. Their defense is certainly up near the top in a lot of statistics too. I wrote a bunch of numbers down and there are some definite surprises in there, or at least were for me. Kentucky for example as shown below has serious issues, and I do believe we beat them, but they are pretty good in a lot of individual defensive statistics.

Offense:

PPG / YPG / Score Breakdown
Alabama is under Georgia in some offensive categories but still ahead of them in scoring offense. We are #1 in scoring offense at 50.1 ppg, Alabama is #5 with 43.1 ppg, and Georgia is #8 with 41.7 ppg. In total offense we are #1 with 571.7 ypg, Georgia is #2 with 526.6 ypg, and Alabama is #15 with 485.1 ypg. We have 46 TD, 43 PAT, 1 2PT, and 10 FG. Alabama has 44 TD, 43 PAT, 1 2PT, and 12 FG. Georgia has 35 TD, 35 PAT, 15 FG, and 1 SAF.

My initial takeaway here is all three teams have good offenses, Georgia looking a little better than Alabama in a lot of stats, but not in scoring. We have 8.4 ppg advantage over them as well as a 45.1 ypg advantage in total offense.

Team Passing Efficiency Rating / Total Passing Offense
Tennessee is #2 in team passing efficiency at 198.58, Georgia is #21 at 157.73, and Alabama is #23 157.09. In terms of passing offense as measured in yards per game, Tennessee is #2 with 368.9, Georgia is #7 with 329.9, and Alabama is #34 with 274.4.

As a team, we have a much better pass efficiency than either team, but I think Bryce Young missing time is the reason Alabama isn't much higher in this statistic. I think this is another situation where when Bryce was out the passing game suffered for Alabama. Georgia gets a lot of passing yards per game, but not many passing touchdowns (11), which is why their efficiency metric suffers. Tennessee has 23 and Alabama has 19 for comparison.

I think you have to give the edge to Hendon Hooker over Stetson Bennett, but that's no surprise to the faithful here. He can move the ball, but to my mind, I think these stats say more about the opposition Georgia has faced than how their passing game stacks up against Tennessee or Alabama. I do think they are good and can move the ball, and given that pass defense is an issue with us and the scheme we are playing, like everyone else they will have a bunch of yards through the air. More than Alabama or even Florida? Debatable.

Rushing YPG / Rushing Touchdowns / Yards per Rush
Alabama is #17 at 210.8 ypg and 6.02 ypr, Tennessee is #24 at 202.9 ypg and 4.63 ypr, and Georgia is #29 at 196.7 ypg and 5.60 ypr. In terms of rushing TDs, we have 23, Georgia has 24, and Alabama has 17. So Alabama runs for yards the best on a per game and per carry basis, but Georgia and Tennessee score rushing more often. Georgia has a better yards per rush.

This actually makes me feel better about Georgia's ability to run the ball on us. They may do it, but we were able to hold Alabama to 114 rushing yards while rushing for 182 ourselves. I know Georgia has several capable backs, but are they as good Gibbs? They could have a great day against us, but I'm less worried about this than before


Red Zone Offense
Georgia is 42/43 on the red zone with 21 rushing TD, 8 pass TD, and 13 FG. We are 37/38 with 23 rushing TD, 8 passing TD, and 6 FG. Alabama is 34/38 with 12 rushing TD, 15 passing TD, and 7 FG. Totals: Georgia has 29 RZTD and 13 FG for 242 points, Tennessee has 31 RZTD and 6 FG for 235 points, and Alabama has 27 RZTD and 7 FG for 210 points.

All of the teams convert in the red zone almost every time they get there, with Georgia and Tennessee being nearly automatic and Alabama having a handful of failures to convert points. It looks like Georgia has been able to get to the red zone the most but they kick a lot of field goals, so they have only scored 7 more points than Tennessee from this area. Alabama has the most balanced mix of pass and rush redzone TD scores, but they also have the fewest points.

It seems if you can stop the run against Georgia or Tennessee in that part of the field you can at least force them to attack the end zone more in the passing game or force them to kick a FG. Can either team do that? If either team does shutdown the opponent's red zone rush scoring ability, who is better equipped to get touchdowns? I mean I'm biased, but I have to think Heupel has some creative stuff down there. Not to take anything away from Smart, I'm sure his playbook is not empty for those sort of scenarios. I still like our chances. I actually worry less about them scoring through the air near the goal line than I do with them moving the ball across the regular field. Things should get easier for the DBs, right?

Staying on the Field / Getting off the Field
In terms of keeping the offense on the field: Georgia is 44/84 on 3rd down, Tennessee is 50/97, Alabama is 47/101, and Kentucky is 38/89. Georgia is 6/6 on 4th down, we are 12/17, Kentucky is 9/13 and Alabama is 4/10. For stopping the opposing offense: Alabama has given up 33/125 third downs, Georgia 28/95, Kentucky 29/94, and Tennessee 33/101. Alabama has given up 6/16 opponent 4th downs, Kentucky 6/15, Tennessee 9/19, and Georgia 5/10.

What to make of these numbers? Well, Georgia and Tennessee both convert 3rd down over 50% of the time, Georgia is perfect on 4th down, while we are 70.5%. We go for it on 4th down a lot more than Georgia does. Alabama and Kentucky are really good on 4th down while Georgia is a little worse than we are. We have had to face a LOT of 4th downs attempts though, and if we get into another situation where we are scoring a lot (which is the plan) I expect for Georgia to to also go after on us on 4th down. These games sure are exciting this year, aren't they?

Defense:

Team Passing Efficiency Defense / Total Passing Defense (YPG) / Scoring Defense

Georgia is #4 and holds teams to a passing efficiency of 75.40. Kentucky is #9 and and holds teams to 108.43. Alabama is #13 and holds teams to 109.31. We are #68 and hold teams to 129.15. In passing yards allowed per game, Georgia is #5 with 163.7, Kentucky is #14 with 178.3, Alabama is #34 with 201.8, and we are #130 with 329.7. In terms of scoring defense Georgia is #2 holding opponents to 9.14 points per game, Kentucky is #9 with 16.43, Alabama is #12 with 16.62, and we are #51 holding them to 23.13 ppg.

Georgia seems good at defending the pass, at least when you look at the team passing efficiency stat. Interestingly Kentucky is #8 in this stat. We give up a bunch of yards every game but I'm actually surprised we hold opposing teams to a team passing efficiency rating of 129.15. I think it must come down to how much better our scoring defense is. I mean it's not as good as Georgia, or.. wait a second is that Kentucky again!??! They slightly above Alabama in scoring defense.

I'm not actually worried about them, but in general Kentucky has better defensive stats than I initially realized. It will be good to get them before Georgia. Everyone talks about Kentucky's quarterback, and for sure they will need to score points to beat us, but I think this will be good practice for our offense.

Rushing Defense (YPG) / Red Zone Defense
Georgia is #4 with 83.4 ypg, we are #9 at 90.9 ypg, Alabama is #10 at 93.9 ypg, and Kentucky is #28 at 117.1. Red zone defense Georgia is #10 with opponents scoring on 7/10 attempts, Tennessee is #13 with 22/30, Kentucky is #36 11/14, and Alabama is #42 with 19/24 conversions.

So Georgia is a little better than us against the run, and we are a little better than Alabama and we all have at least 23 yards of advantage on the wildcats. I think our passing game will give Georgia run problems similar to how it gave Alabama problems. We put up 182 rushing against them. Again, Alabama has faced much stiffer competition than Georgia this season. They are one of the few teams with a stronger strength of record than us when examining the season as as a whole. They stop their opponents from scoring in the red zone 70% of the time.

Maybe Georgia can be the team that stops our running game, they certainly were last year, but the guys playing defense then for Georgia are mostly gone. I think if they can stop our run, that might the key to actually beat us. In terms of being good enough to stop their run.. this was discussed in the rushing offense portion but on paper Alabama looks like a scarier rushing attack than Georgia, and so far I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

Team Sacks per Game / Tackles for a Loss Per Game / Allowing Tackles for a Loss Per Game

In team sacks Alabama is #21 with 2.88 per game, we are #44 with 2.43 per game, Kentucky is #111 with 1.43 and this one really shocked me: Georgia is #124 1.0 sacks per game. Tackles per loss per game were similarly surprising: Alabama is #34 with 6.5 per game, Pitt is #37 with 6.4, Tennessee is #44 with 6.3, and Georgia is #116 with 4.4. In terms of allowing tackles per loss, Georgia is #10 allowing 3.57 per game, Tennessee is #14 allowing 3.71, Alabama is #68 allowing 5.38, and Kentucky is #102 allowing 6.57.

We are doing much better in sacks per game and tackles for a loss than Georgia. We average 2.43 sacks per game and 6.3 tackles for a loss, while Georgia is only getting 1.0 sack per game and 4.4 tackles for a loss. Alabama leads both of those categories with 2.88 sacks and 6.5 tackles each game. Pitt, who we already faced, also is right there at 6.4 tackles, and then there is Kentucky appearing decently in some stats again. Georgia is much better at not allowing tackles, for a loss than they are at dealing them out, allowing 3.57 per game. We are actually second in this category allowing 3.71 with Alabama 5.38.

Turnover Margin / Interceptions Gained / Interceptions Thrown / Fumbles Lost / Fumbles Gained / Defensive Scoring

Tennessee is ranked #28 in turnover margin and is slightly better than #43 Georgia at .43, but in reality we are one turnover better than them. Alabama is actually #90 and has a -.38 turnover margin, when was the last time that happened?

Kentucky is #62 in interceptions with 6 in 202 opponent passes, Georgia is #63 with 6 in 213, Tennessee is #81 with 6 in 322, and Alabama is #119 with 3 in 279. Georgia is #1 in interceptions thrown with 1 in 262 pass, Tennessee is #9 with 2 in 226, Alabama is #54 with 5 in 272, and Kentucky is #80 with 6 in 193.

Georgia has lost 5 fumbles in 7 games, Alabama has lost 6 in 8 games, Tennessee has lost 6 in 7 games, and Kentucky has lost 6 in 7 games. Tennessee has recovered 7 fumbles, Alabama has recovered 5, Georgia has recovered 3, and Kentucky has recovered 2. In terms of defensive scoring, Alabama has 2 TD, Kentucky has 1 TD , and neither Tennessee nor Georgia have one yet.

Penalties

I don't feel like writing much more in this post, but basically Georgia has real edge on us when it comes to penalties. They do not give away many yards in penalties. Much more disciplined that the Alabama team was faced.

Takeaway

I am not sure I believe Georgia is actually better than Alabama on offense. I think they are good, but their schedule at this point hasn’t been nearly as strong as Tennessee or Alabama. They beat Oregon 49-3 and struggled with Kent Stare and Missouri. They piled up a bunch of points and didn’t give away many versus Sanford, SCAR, Auburn, and Vandy. I'll call Oregon a decent opponent, but none of those other teams are good.

Georgia's defense seems legitimate but parts of it seem not scarier or even not as scary as Alabama. The rush defense, their ability to get sacks, and tackles for loss do not seem as good. They stop their opponent from scoring in the red zone 70% of the time, which is better than Alabama, but remember.. they played us. In general Alabama's schedule is much more impressive than Georgia. I don't know if we win or not but I do think Georgia hasn't been tested properly to this point. Also, Kentucky actually has a lot of things they do pretty well on defense. I think we win that game anyway, and pretty easily, but I didn't think I would see them ranked as well as they were so many times.

Edit: Fixed 4th down defense stat. Accidentally put the opponent below us' stat in the table.

 

[calban]

Stetson can't handle the pressure our front 7 will bring and no way they can score as many times as TN will. This is our year. Git er dun!!