How utterly surprising (not): John Adams predicts another 5-7 season.

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HvilleCommando said:
There's realistic and then there's being incredibly negative... This guy is overly negative.. He's assuming that we don't win a single game of the games we shouldn't win. (USC, Georgia, ect).. That may be a very safe bet, and I don't expect us to win one of those either, but you do have to bear in mind that those games are at home.

Secondly, and more importantly he's assuming that we can't win 3 out of the Auburn, Mizzou, Vandy and Kentucky games to go bowling.. Kentucky is basically a given, and Vandy and Auburn are at home. Most preseason polls also have us as being better than all 4 of those teams. I see 4 wins there. Not 2.
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Kentucky is basically a given? Unless they start a receiver at QB
 
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BigPapaVol said:
This makes no sense. You've said it twice and it's not getting any closer to being sensible.
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Ok, we're going to go 4-8. As a result, this recruiting class will fall apart and most of our coaching staff will jump ship. Better?
 
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5-7 is a definite possibility. Of course, I'm a Vol homer so I am predicting 6-6 at worst, 7-5 at best. I just think CBJ will get these guys to play at a higher level than Dooley did. That alone will be good for a win somewhere that Dooley wouldn't have gotten.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
'tis hardly surprising, given his track record. However, if you ever wanted proof that John Adams has a deep abiding disdain for Tennessee football, here it is: he predicts a fourth consecutive 5-7 season. See John Adams: Butch Jones hasn't had enough time to change UT's losing ways » GoVolsXtra. Here's hoping that he has enough crow to choke on for a week's worth of dining at the end of the season.
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Well Adams should check his facts before writing a story! The vols have had 2 consecutive 5-7 seasons not 3, this year would be the 3rd consecutive. Dooley regular seasons were 2010 6-6, 2011 5-7, and 2012 5-7. Unless, he is predicting back to back 5-7 seasons with Butch!
 
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These forums are always interesting. Does anyone really care what anyone predicts? Does anyone remember what the prediction was for 1998? (8-4). Some in this forum say, forget this year or this team isn't good. Interesting. This is based on what? The fact that we almost beat Florida, Georgia, and USCjr last year with players who didn't have situational awareness, didn't play as a team, figured out ways to lose, and were void of senior leadership and coaching. I don't pretend to know what we will do this year, but saying any game is unwinnable with the current talent and intangibles is just plain silly. Florida A&M almost beat Florida last year, Appalachian State beat Michigan a few years back, ULM beat Arkansas, and if you watch college football, the list could go on and on. There is a reason why they play the games. The talent drop off isn't that significant. Often the difference between a win or a lose comes down to one or two plays. Some in these forums need to believe again. Quit thinking you know and just believe! I can't wait every year, because until someone beats the Vols, we are undefeated!
 
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HvilleCommando said:
There's realistic and then there's being incredibly negative... This guy is overly negative.. He's assuming that we don't win a single game of the games we shouldn't win. (USC, Georgia, ect).. That may be a very safe bet, and I don't expect us to win one of those either, but you do have to bear in mind that those games are at home.

Secondly, and more importantly he's assuming that we can't win 3 out of the Auburn, Mizzou, Vandy and Kentucky games to go bowling.. Kentucky is basically a given, and Vandy and Auburn are at home. Most preseason polls also have us as being better than all 4 of those teams. I see 4 wins there. Not 2.
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I agree: Vandy and Auburn are competitive but home games. We have an open date before Vandy and USCe too. Mizzou is on the road but I don't think they have the depth so they will wear down with injuries by Nov. UK is better coached but we should whip them soundly.

I think 8-5 is more probable than 5-7.

Great strides in strength and conditioning will make the difference in the 4th quarter!
 
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90 Vol said:
Ok, we're going to go 4-8. As a result, this recruiting class will fall apart and most of our coaching staff will jump ship. Better?
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No. Stating that people are opining in the dark is flat out wrong. The opinion might be dead wrong, but the silliness about ignorance makes you look ignorant.
 
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99gator said:
it all comes down to the two things it has the last couple of years.

1. can tennessee pull an upset early.

2. if tennessee doesn't pull an upset early, how much of the team will be disheartened and not put forth the same effort in november making winnable games loseable?

i do find it humorous that some people, yet again, look at games on the schedule like they are no problem when tennessee has not provided any evidence that any game is "no problem"

until proven otherwise, auburn, vanderbilt, missouri and yes, even kentucky are not gimmies. the last 3 games played at kentucky resulted in a loss and the other two contests went to overtime.

it's not just a derek dooley thing. games against opponents like these have been competitive and could have gone either way for several years now.
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why are you so worried ab UT that youre always here?
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
I don't think 5-7 is out of the realm of possibility, even though I'm thinking 6-6 thanks to Vandy's penchant for rape. We need to get real - this team is not good.
I don't think Adams has total disdain for UT, but he does for Fulmer. He covered up all of Lane's practice shenanigans; we learned from ESPN (not the Sentinel) about him showing past Southern Compton players; the whole USC chanting crap, etc. I don't trust Adams one bit after that, but don't slam him for predicting 5-7. Just keep it real, write this year off, and hope for better next year.
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Truly he does love him some Dooley.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
I don't think 5-7 is out of the realm of possibility,
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If Jones is even in the neighborhood of being a coach that can win championships at UT... then it is. But technically, no record is out of realm of possibility.
. We need to get real - this team is not good.
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It is not a six win team then it is an extremely poorly coached team (by this staff). If it is a "well" as in at least mediocre coached team then it is a seven or 8 win team.

I don't think Adams has total disdain for UT, but he does for Fulmer.
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Adams looks for shock effect. A competent editor would have sent that LSU homer packing years ago.
Just keep it real, write this year off, and hope for better next year.
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If a team that may well put all five starting OL's in the draft next spring, returning 2 RB's that combined for over 1300 yds, a front seven likely to have 2-4 players get the opportunity to play in the NFL next year, and a solid group of 3 veteran safeties... is a 5-7 team this year then only an abject idiot would hope for better next year when the entire front 7 and most of the 2 deep there will be gone. They'll be replaced by lesser talents, true Fr, and JUCO's. The entire OL will be gone. UT will STILL be thin at CB and lose a quality S and the starting nickel. The WR group will be just a little more experienced than this year.

The truth is if this is a 5 win roster then next year is a 3 or 4 win roster... AT BEST.
 
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General Jack said:
If we still had Dooley he would probably be right.

Fortunately now we have a real football coach with a resume, and not a guy with a last night.
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Precisely. And if Jones is no better than 5 wins... then he has NOT proven he's any better than Dooley.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
'tis hardly surprising, given his track record. However, if you ever wanted proof that John Adams has a deep abiding disdain for Tennessee football, here it is: he predicts a fourth consecutive 5-7 season. See John Adams: Butch Jones hasn't had enough time to change UT's losing ways » GoVolsXtra. Here's hoping that he has enough crow to choke on for a week's worth of dining at the end of the season.
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If we have many, many injuries, then I can see this scenerio. However; I think we beat Austin Peay, Western Kentucky, South Alabama, Missouri, Kentucky,
and ( we will split between Vandy & Auburn)

So, by my accounts, we are 6 -6. Maybe he has us losing to both Auburn & Vandy!!!
 
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I thought we'd win about 7 games, until I watched Simms beat the Giants.
Can't judge this team by anything Dooley accomplished.
Dooley couldn't coach T-ball.
Now, I don't think we'll lose a home game this season.
I'm ready for some Football.
hiccup
 
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Adams is pretty accurate here. People who "expect" at least 6 wins haven't seen our schedule or roster. I'm not sure where people think the wins will come from. We have worse personnel on the team than we did last year, and the level of our competition has remained stable. Going back to the 4-3 should help some, but in the end we will give up fewer touchdowns yet score fewer touchdowns--it will be a wash. We win 5 games this year. No bowl. We win 7 games next year.
 
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In all honesty I would be thrilled with 6-6 and a bowl trip...We are breaking in pretty much a new team and a new staff...Next year I'll expect more but for now lets get out of this funk we've been in and return to Tennessee football....Anything beyond 6 wins is a bonus in my eyes.
 
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5-7 is definitely in the realm of possibility, but admittedly somewhat pessimistic. All things considered, I'd be surprised if we were that bad. 6-6 or 7-5 seems like the most likely scenario.

If we go 5-7 that means we likely lost to Oregon, Bama, UGA, USCe, Florida, and two out of three among Auburn, Mizzou, and Vandy. It's possible, but if this coaching staff is any good, they should at least go 2-5 against this slate. We obviously don't have the top talent in the SEC, but we have enough so that we should be competitive against most (if not all) of those teams. Even with the circumstances, I think going 1-6 against that slate would be pretty bad.
 
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Someone wanna set an over/under on the number of times "realm of possibility" was used in this thread without counting? How about we set it at 14
 
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