How was that not a TD?

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#201
Any friggin way ya slice it, there was not enough conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field!
 
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#202
#202
Do I believe that Pig lost control of the football before the ball broke the plane? Yes. Do I know as an indisputable fact that he lost control of the football before he broke the plane? No. Hence over 200 post of disagreement proves that it is not an indisputable fact.
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
Do I believe that Pig lost control of the football before the ball broke the plane? Yes. Do I know as an indisputable fact that he lost control of the football before he broke the plane? No. Hence over 200 post of disagreement proves that it is not an indisputable fact.
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So the call on the field should have never been overturned!
 
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I agree he loses the ball, but there's no way unless the replay booth has angles to look at that we don't that anyone can prove when the ball started coming out. In a dive, reaching with the ball in one hand, the replay looks to me like he opens his hand and lets the ball go after he knew it was in the end zone.
 
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Bryan1 said:
Any friggin way ya slice it, there was not enough conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field!
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If that replay wasn't indisputable, then 99% of all replays are inconclusive, and we should just do away with replay review all together.
 
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bamawriter said:
If that replay wasn't indisputable, then 99% of all replays are inconclusive, and we should just do away with replay review all together.
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I hope your using the 99% as puffery-as a "bamawriter", if you are one, you should understand words and what indisputable means.
 
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bamawriter said:
That replay was as conclusive, or more conclusive than, 99% of replays. It really was that obvious.
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My opinion is that is is not; hence not indisputable. Maybe they should change the standard; because it definitely is not indisputable.
 
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#210
Yes it was obvious that he dropped the ball, but you cannot tell me with a straight face that there was enough conclusive evidence that the ball didn't touch the white line first. After it touches the line it doesn't matter, its a TD! There was not enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. The ball doesn't have to cross the white line only touch it!
 
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#214
It makes me think of the way I used to "dunk" a basketball since I couldn't palm it. My hand underneath and then turning the ball over and flicking it down. I essentially lost control as soon as I turned my hand over, yet was able to guide the ball toward my intended target.

But, I think it was a fumble.
 
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Stumbleandfumble said:
I think it's pretty clear it was a touchdown. Just because he pulled one hand off to stretch further doesn't meant he lost control. Refs blew it as usual.

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Late response to this, but how on earth is this "clearly" a td? If anything, it's a pretty crystal clear image of him losing possession. I wanted the call to go our way as much as anyone else....... but saying he had possession of that ball while breaking the plane is bordering on blind homerism.
 
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duckman398686 said:
Late response to this, but how on earth is this "clearly" a td? If anything, it's a pretty crystal clear image of him losing possession. I wanted the call to go our way as much as anyone else....... but saying he had possession of that ball while breaking the plane is bordering on blind homerism.
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Call me a homer. I see it in his hand at the goal line at the plane, and a hitch downward (and lose of control) of his hand just after the end zone side line side of the marker.
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
My opinion is that is is not; hence not indisputable. Maybe they should change the standard; because it definitely is not indisputable.
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Oh, so you want indisputable to mean "convinces every last homer fan of the team that lost out on the review"? Again, if that's the case, they should get rid of review all together.
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
Call me a homer. I see it in his hand at the goal line at the plane, and a hitch downward (and lose of control) of his hand just after the end zone side line side of the marker.
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The ball started moving forward (and out of his grip) a little ways past the point it was stretched out at the one yard line mark. To each their own, but I think there are more than a few here that are grasping at straws trying to say this was a TD. It clearly was not.
 
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#221
#221
The game is over; the score is the score. I just think the standard either doesn't mean what it says or it was not followed. You may disagree with the way I interpret what I saw, as I may disagree with your interpretation. No straws to be grasped.
 
#223
#223
They had a replay in stadium that showed very very very clearly that he lost the ball before hitting the plane of the end zone. Wish that replay would make it online.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
You seriously think in that picture he's palming the football by the tip?
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No. But I am only 80% sure he isn't. Which to me is inconclusive. I understand where the sentiment on both sides is. Easier to be mad than sad for the "he didn't fumble crowd. " And losses are harder to take when you feel like you got jobbed for the indisputable crowd. For me, it looks like he fumbled so we probably lost fair and square. At the same time, the idea that he CLEARLY fumbled is a bit over the top. I just wish we could have stopped them from marching down the field on us in the last 2 minutes. That was really what made me sick as a Tennessee fan who witnessed the hobnail boot debacle in person in 2001.
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
Call me a homer. I see it in his hand at the goal line at the plane, and a hitch downward (and lose of control) of his hand just after the end zone side line side of the marker.
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You see his hand on the ball not the ball in his hand.

Put the tips of your fingers on top of a football with nothing under the football and tell me if you can control the football. I'd bet the ball falls to the ground.
 
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