Hubert Davis on Tennessee....

[Volsbackto1998]

Jesus, forget the RPI guys. If Tennessee goes 4-1 with a win over Vandy and wins two in the SEC tourney, they are dancing. Hell, they might not even have to win two

I agree that going 4-1 plus 2 wins in the tourney and we should be in but you absolutely have to look at the RPI to know how close it will be. Also realize that if we are a 4th seed, then our second game in the SEC tourney would be against KY. If you think we will beat KY, you might as well say we will win the SEC tournament and get a automatic bid.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree that going 4-1 plus 2 wins in the tourney and we should be in but you absolutely have to look at the RPI to know how close it will be. Also realize that if we are a 4th seed, then our second game in the SEC tourney would be against KY. If you think we will beat KY, you might as well say we will win the SEC tournament and get a automatic bid.

I really want to win out and get a 2 or 3. If we lose a game and end up as a 4 or 5 that's trouble.

 

[SlyStone]

Did anyone see NC State blow that Bball game against Duke last night? 20 point lead with 10mins to go and they pfist it away by not executing. And to imagine Gottfried has a top class coming in next season. Makes you scratch your head.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Did anyone see NC State blow that Bball game against Duke last night? 20 point lead with 10mins to go and they pfist it away by not executing. And to imagine Gottfried has a top class coming in next season. Makes you scratch your head.

Did you see vandy do work on ole miss? I still think that's our hardest remaining game, they're upperclassmen TBA won't faze then.

 

[Sudden Impact]

No, I'm fine with the 5-0 prediction because we will be a 2 or 3 seed playing the 6/7 then the 2/3. Beating those teams will get us there.
My problem is the 4-1 prediction. Where do you see us being seeded if we finish 4-1?

4 through 7 seed

 

[Escape Goat]

Please explain what you mean. No need for whistling.

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[Incipient]

No, I'm fine with the 5-0 prediction because we will be a 2 or 3 seed playing the 6/7 then the 2/3. Beating those teams will get us there.
My problem is the 4-1 prediction. Where do you see us being seeded if we finish 4-1?

I'll take this one.

A 4-1 finish puts us at 10-6. That's almost certainly behind Kentucky and Florida. It's ahead of Georgia, South Carolina, and Auburn.

Currently, four SEC teams have exactly 6 losses. I'm confident that Ole Miss and Arkansas will lose at least once more, so let's assume 10-6 puts us ahead of them.

So we'll be fighting Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Alabama, and LSU for spots 3 through 7. Obviously, 6 and 7 would be preferable to 5 (avoid Kentucky on Saturday).

I'll handle the remaining situations depending on the loss.

If the loss is to Alabama:

Vandy will lose @Tennessee and @Kentucky. Suppose they beat Florida at home. They finish 10-6, tied with Tennessee.

LSU will lose vs Tennessee. They finish with 7+ losses.

Mississippi State likely loses to Kentucky to give them 6 losses. They also play Alabama. If they win (and win their other three), they will be tied with Tennessee.

Alabama plays @Arkansas and vs Miss St. If they win both (and their other games), they will be tied with Tennessee.

Verdict: 2-3 way tie for 3rd. We win two-way tiebreaker over Vandy. MSU would win a tiebreaker with UT and Vandy, Vols 2nd. Vandy would win a tiebreaker with UT and Bama, Vols 3rd. Finish 3rd, 4th, or 5th. To finish 3rd, would need MSU to beat Bama and lose to Arkansas

If the loss is to LSU

Vandy loses to Tennessee and Kentucky, beats Florida at home, finishes 10-6.

LSU has a good chance of running the table (toughest game other than Vols is Ole Miss) to finish 10-6.

Bama loses to Tennessee, finishes with 7+ losses.

Miss St loses to Kentucky, can finish 10-6 with wins over Bama, Arkansas.

Verdict: 3-4 way tie for 3rd. Vols are 1-2 or 1-3 vs other tied teams. Finish 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. We'd be rooting for LSU and Mississippi State to both win out to push us to 6th or both lose to push us to 3rd. If one wins out and the other loses a 7th game, we're in 4th or 5th

If the loss is to Vandy

Vandy finishes 11-5, third place.

LSU loses to Vols, has 7+ losses

Bama loses to Vols, has 7+ losses.

Miss St has a chance to finish 10-6.

Verdict: Either alone in 4th or tied for 4th with Miss St (lose the tiebreaker). Finish 4th or 5th. Play Kentucky in the semis if we make it that far.

Loss is to South Carolina or Ole Miss

Vandy loses to Vols and Kentucky, beats Florida, finishes 10-6.

LSU loses to Vols, has 7+ losses

Bama loses to Vols, has 7+ losses

Miss St has chance to finish 10-6.

Verdict: 2-3 way tie for 3rd. We win tiebreaker over Vandy, lose to Miss St. Finish 3rd or 4th. Need a Miss St loss (another one after their likely Kentucky loss) to secure 3rd.

That should clear things up. I hope.

 

[emainvol]

I agree that going 4-1 plus 2 wins in the tourney and we should be in but you absolutely have to look at the RPI to know how close it will be. Also realize that if we are a 4th seed, then our second game in the SEC tourney would be against KY. If you think we will beat KY, you might as well say we will win the SEC tournament and get a automatic bid.

Playing Kentucky and showing up this time would be one of the scenarios in which I see the Vols going 4-1 with only 1 win in the tourney and still making the dance.

 

[LynxVol]

The way the season is progressing, I don't see Ole Miss or Miss. St. making it to the tourney. I think UT and Bama has the best chance out of the bubble teams.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

The way the season is progressing, I don't see Ole Miss or Miss. St. making it to the tourney. I think UT and Bama has the best chance out of the bubble teams.

We just need those teams to keep losing and we gotta best vandy.

Out if curiosity, I know the tiebreaker is head to head matchup, what's the 2nd tie break though if your head to was is tied?

 

[Incipient]

We just need those teams to keep losing and we gotta best vandy.

Out if curiosity, I know the tiebreaker is head to head matchup, what's the 2nd tie break though if your head to was is tied?

In a two-team tiebreaker, the second tiebreaker is record vs #1 seed, followed by record against #2 seed, followed by record vs #3 seed, and so on. So if we beat Vandy, we'll have the tiebreaker unless they beat Kentucky in Rupp (we're 2-0 vs Florida, they're 0-1)

 

[bleedingTNorange]

In a two-team tiebreaker, the second tiebreaker is record vs #1 seed, followed by record against #2 seed, followed by record vs #3 seed, and so on. So if we beat Vandy, we'll have the tiebreaker unless they beat Kentucky in Rupp (we're 2-0 vs Florida, they're 0-1)

thank you very much, could come into play.

-if they win out but lose to us and we win out we'll be tied.
-if they lose to uk and us and we lose to lsu we'll be tied.

 

[ncvol17]

Hubert works for ESPN,ESPN hates us- he is a secret ploy to sway our fan base back towards ESPN so we will watch the NC State game. He rides in a Black helicopter and lives in Area 51.

 

[1985Vols]

We are currently outside the top 100 in the RPI. I will take your word for it because I am not sure, but at top 40 RPI seems HIGHLT, HIGHLY unlikely if not impossible. We have 4 losses to teams outside the top 100 RPI....

Alot of weight usually is put into how teams play in their last 10 games. If we continue to win, our last 10 games are going to look very strong to the selection commitee.

 

[Catbone]

ESPN hates our football program much more than our basketball in my opinion

 

[tenn fever]

Time will tell

 

[roswellvol]

I look at this stuff on my phone, and now need a new BlackBerry. I literally pulled my pants down (in public, no less), and took a dump on my phone. I appreciate the research, time, and execution of the scenarios, but give it a rest people. As much as I can't stand Vitale, it's this simple... just win, baby. The next 5 games will dictate, win and in. One game at a time...
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[Escape Goat]

Did you atleast wash your hands after said dump on your phone? Remember... Cleanliness is next to ... Well you know the rest.

I look at this stuff on my phone, and now need a new BlackBerry. I literally pulled my pants down (in public, no less), and took a dump on my phone. I appreciate the research, time, and execution of the scenarios, but give it a rest people. As much as I can't stand Vitale, it's this simple... just win, baby. The next 5 games will dictate, win and in. One game at a time...
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[roswellvol]

Did you atleast wash your hands after said dump on your phone? Remember... Cleanliness is next to ... Well you know the rest.

No, I didn't. Matter of fact, I wiped with my bare hand and immediately ate curry chicken with my hands so I could do it again ASAP. I prefer keeping germs in my system so immunity can get a challenge. I prefer that to letting possible scenarios (including the aforementioned) dictate my life. Go Vols. Just live and win. One day at a time.
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[VolPride14]

its not my opinion its a fact

have fun exploring this site...

Live-RPI.com

if you click on tennessee and then with conference tourney it will give you every scenario that we could finish and an approximate as to where our rpi would be.

What scares me is the out of conference rpi. We're below two hundred. That isn't good at all. I had a string feeling is we just won out we'd be in. I don't know how much thst weighs in. Maybe the board does consider how much has changed and how hot you are, but I feel thst stat alone could keep us out.

And they say our chances of winning the tournament are .03%. Pshhh! We're better than that. Ha.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

What scares me is the out of conference rpi. We're below two hundred. That isn't good at all. I had a string feeling is we just won out we'd be in. I don't know how much thst weighs in. Maybe the board does consider how much has changed and how hot you are, but I feel thst stat alone could keep us out.

And they say our chances of winning the tournament are .03%. Pshhh! We're better than that. Ha.

They won't put much if any at all weight on OOC RPI. They will look at total rpi, how you played lately, any additions during te season thing like that.

OOC RPI shouldn't be too big of an issue if our RPI gets inside of 60.