Hyatt sitting not an issue

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vols40 said:
If he were my son I would allow him to make his decision. But I would remind him that in life you finish what you start.
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What fatherly advice would you give him if he got a career altering or ending injury in a game a few weeks before he and any future family were in a position to never have a financial worry again?

Hyatt hasn't worked since he was a kid to play in the Orange Bowl. He's worked since he was a kid to make the NFL. He is finishing what he started and opting out is the best way to assure that opportunity.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
What fatherly advice would you give him if he got a career altering or ending injury in a game a few weeks before he and any future family were in a position to never have a financial worry again?

Hyatt hasn't worked since he was a kid to play in the Orange Bowl. He's worked since he was a kid to make the NFL. He is finishing what he started and opting out is the best way to assure that opportunity.
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All your points are valid. But he still quit. Stop calling it opting out. That's a play on words that sounds better than quitting.
As I said it would be his decision.
 
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VolMax said:
I don't think we'll really miss Hyatt that much tomorrow night. Odd to say that about a 4.29 guy, but I don't think blazing speed was a big factor in all but 2 or 3 of his touchdowns. It was all scheme. I think Squirrel will be just fine. I can't find a 40 time on him but I did see something about being clocked at 23.6 mph via gps (whatever that means) - article said that would put him among the fastest players in the NFL.

I'm just praying Milton has learned to put some air under the deep ball since Vandy.

GBO!
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Thread title should be "Hyatt Quitting not an issue?"
 
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vols40 said:
Yes and every time I did I had the integrity to not just walk out.
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What makes you think that he just quit? Do you think he had a conversation with CJH and coach gave him some advice to make his decision?

Based on how Tillman was handled this year one could assume that the advice might have been the Risk is too high for such little Reward and you can't gain anything by playing.

If you are a projected 1st or 2nd rounder you don't need to play and risk injury. Again High Risk vs Low Reward.
 
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vols40 said:
Lol. The I know you are what am I defense. He quit. Just admit it. Hyatt for all his good qualities and everything he's accomplished here he quit.
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I didn't say he didn't quit. I said people who who are using it in a negative connotation are likely classic low achievers. Quitting to move to better things is not a negative.

You admitted you've quit jobs. If you've got a problem with Hyatt doing it to better himself, that's you being a hypocrite.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
What makes you think that he just quit? Do you think he had a conversation with CJH and coach gave him some advice to make his decision?

Based on how Tillman was handled this year one could assume that the advice might have been the Risk is too high for such little Reward and you can't gain anything by playing.

If you are a projected 1st or 2nd rounder you don't need to play and risk injury. Again High Risk vs Low Reward.
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He quit with "integrity" but Hyatt didn't apparently.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
What makes you think that he just quit? Do you think he had a conversation with CJH and coach gave him some advice to make his decision?

Based on how Tillman was handled this year one could assume that the advice might have been the Risk is too high for such little Reward and you can't gain anything by playing.

If you are a projected 1st or 2nd rounder you don't need to play and risk injury. Again High Risk vs Low Reward.
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Everything you said I agree with. Just say he quit instead of opting out.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
He quit with "integrity" but Hyatt didn't apparently.
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The one with assumptions strikes again. Just said that he quit before the job was done. And for the record anytime I quit a job I sat with my boss and never was there ever any conversation about me having the option to Opt-out.
 
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Anybody that’s a fan can call Hyatt a quitter whatever floats your boat. But if you ever left a job which is a team and went to another for a better pay to support your family than your being a hypocrite .
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I didn't say he didn't quit. I said people who who are using it in a negative connotation are likely classic low achievers. Quitting to move to better things is not a negative.

You admitted you've quit jobs. If you've got a problem with Hyatt doing it to better himself, that's you being a hypocrite.
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Again with the assumptions.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
He quit with "integrity" but Hyatt didn't apparently.
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I am not going to get into a tit for tat with you, nor am I going to get into a semantic word game play with you.

It is what it is but define integrity quitting, LOL vs making a decision about both their futures and any known conversations you are privy to that occurred with the coaching staff.

You make this sound like Hyatt sent the team a "Dear John" letter.
 
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TheFlash1971 said:
Anybody that’s a fan can call Hyatt a quitter whatever floats your boat. But if you ever left a job which is a team and went to another for a better pay to support your family than your being a hypocrite .
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Lol. Saying he quit does not equal not wanting him to better himself. It's saying that he quit before the season was done.
 
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vols40 said:
Lol. I agree we both quit. But I called it what it is. I didn't opt out.
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I wonder who even first applied "opt out" to football players? To me, "opting out" is something you do at the bank when you decide not to accept the Accidental Death coverage that they offer with your Savings account. Sounds like something an agent made up so he could say "Oh, no . . . He didn't quit . . . he, uh, opted out".
 
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vols40 said:
Lol. I agree we both quit. But I called it what it is. I didn't opt out.
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Did he quit if he went to the Coach and asked for Advice and the Coach stated it was best for him to OPT Out knowing he was not returning. Coaches have relationships with their players and in some cases they fill the void of an absent parent. Coaches program their players for success and may give advice as to what is better for the individual concern. They have an obligation to the player they recruited as well as the team.
It's not like we have empty shelves to fill his position.

He made an informed business decision....so there is a difference you quit and he moved on to a higher level.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Did he quit if he went to the Coach and asked for Advice and the Coach stated it was best for him to OPT Out knowing he was not returning. Coaches have relationships with their players and in some cases they fill the void of an absent parent. Coaches program their players for success and may give advice as to what is better for the individual concern. They have an obligation to the player they recruited as well as the team.
It's not like we have empty shelves to fill his position.
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Again we agree. But however he came to his decision doesn't change the fact that he quit before the season was done.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Did he quit if he went to the Coach and asked for Advice and the Coach stated it was best for him to OPT Out knowing he was not returning. Coaches have relationships with their players and in some cases they fill the void of an absent parent. Coaches program their players for success and may give advice as to what is better for the individual concern. They have an obligation to the player they recruited as well as the team.
It's not like we have empty shelves to fill his position.
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Yes . . . He quit. I don't blame him for quitting at all. I don't think there's anything wrong with him deciding that it was best for him to quit and move on. People do it all the time. But the notion that quitting is bad but "opting out" is OK is just a goofy word game.
 
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What would the responses have been if Hyatt would have used the same rationale to opt out of the Vandy game?
 
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