I am at a NFL fandom crossroad

#54
#54
You can take him to the game and cheer for Witten without being dressed like a (sorry, Milo.) cowpuke.

...and you would also have the opportunity teach him a lesson in loyalty.

Rage, ..Rage against the dying of the light.
 
#56
#56
vader said:
Yeah, I agree. My late teens/early 20s version of me would be outraged.

Turns out that there is more to life than sports.
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I think I would have been as well 5 or 10 years ago. Nat has really mellowed me out. I remember when I would yell, scream, and jump up and down at the tv. I bet I walked at least 2 miles during most UT games with the tv on the game in 2 or 3 rooms because I couldn't be still. I still do a little of that a little teiny tiny bit.....just no where near as much.:angel: It bothered me a good bit when she first started being a UGA fan but more so because my FIL brainwashed her just because he knew it would get under my skin.
 
#58
#58
Crew said:
You can take him to the game and cheer for Witten without being dressed like a (sorry, Milo.) cowpuke.

...and you would also have the opportunity teach him a lesson in loyalty.

Rage, ..Rage against the dying of the light.
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None taken. I just hope everyone recognizes Witten being UT's best NFL alum since Peyton.

BTW Vader's hatred for the eggles will still be there. Mine, too.
 
#60
#60
And, IMO dropping a pro team due to years upon years of bad ownership and/or front office management is perfectly reasonable. Snyder has been a completely awful team owner, I don't blame Skins fans for growing increasingly irritated with him season after season. I hate the Skins, and I want them to be good. It's good for the NFL, and I like it when my Cowboys play very meaningful divisional games 6 times a season.

It's not like Jerruh has been the best, but he's a smart guy, and we may be starting to see him realizing being meddlesome with his football team hurts their chance for success. This years team hasn't been as talented as we thought, but Garrett is looking alright as a HC so far. If JJ doesn't keep him, he might just try his 2nd venture into hiring a HC that isn't a puppet.
 
#61
#61
chavisut said:
An argument could be made for Jamal Lewis.
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On and off the field... And it could be argued that Jam wasn't really all that after his 3rd season. Witten has been regarded as one of if not the best all-around (that means good blocking as well) tight ends in the League since he got drafted.
 
#62
#62
IMO vader isn't considering converting to an actual Cowboys fan. At least, for his soul, I hope not.
 
#63
#63
milohimself said:
On and off the field... And it could be argued that Jam wasn't really all that after his 3rd season. Witten has been regarded as one of if not the best all-around (that means good blocking as well) tight ends in the League since he got drafted.
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I think I feel insulted.

Real talk though, I agree with all your statements about Witten. Just adding that Lewis is the only one that could contend with that title IMO.
 
#65
#65
wounded mullet said:
My NFL passion has dwindled to rooting for my fantasy football players. If rooting for the same team as my son forms a bond then I would have no problem doing that.
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This is exactly where I'm @. I fing myself cheering on MY team, which by the way, was named "Dooley's Dumpster Fire" this year.
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#66
#66
milohimself said:
And, IMO dropping a pro team due to years upon years of bad ownership and/or front office management is perfectly reasonable. Snyder has been a completely awful team owner, I don't blame Skins fans for growing increasingly irritated with him season after season. I hate the Skins, and I want them to be good. It's good for the NFL, and I like it when my Cowboys play very meaningful divisional games 6 times a season.

It's not like Jerruh has been the best, but he's a smart guy, and we may be starting to see him realizing being meddlesome with his football team hurts their chance for success. This years team hasn't been as talented as we thought, but Garrett is looking alright as a HC so far. If JJ doesn't keep him, he might just try his 2nd venture into hiring a HC that isn't a puppet.
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I've always liked Daniel Snyder personally. Financially, he's done very well and I've always felt that if he were to hire a competent GM, the Skins would be fine. That said, as a team owner, he's been nothing short of awful. It's sad that other than 2005, I've never thought the Redskins had a legitimate shot at the Superbowl. I was only excited for '05 because the Redskins made it past the wildcard round. Instead of shooting for championships, we're instead generally competing with Oakland to see who has a more dysfunctional franchise. It's a shame, really.

We're the Daniel Snyder Redskins. It's the Norv Turner's, and Marty Schottenheimer's.
Hire Steve Spurrier and bring his Heisman trophy QB with him.
It's the return of Joe Gibbs that predictably didn't end well.
The hiring of a Seattle QB coach named Jim Zorn as HC, right after you name him the OC.

It's trading away 22 draft picks and trying to buy a Superbowl instead of build one.
Heck, if this was baseball, we could be the Yankees. Peyton Manning would be the first billionaire football player for the Washington Redskins. Unfortunately for us and Snyder, it doesn't work that way.

On paper, the Redskins are an abomination to the past teams in Washington and it appears that we're in for a long rebuilding effort with Mike Shanahan.

For the love of Washington, hopefully he can do it.

/end rant.
 
#67
#67
XtennesseeX......good post......exactly the reason why after years of let down I think I'm finally dumping the Skins
 
#68
#68
Vader, our internet friendship is over.

While my dad isn't the biggest sports fan (although he loves to give me crap for the Vols' failures), my aunt is a diehard Cowboys fan and my grandparents on my mom's side were huge Braves fans, two teams I despise. I've always been very close to all of them. I grew up a street over from my aunt and we had a blast trash talking each other. We still do. You may remember Vader that I lived with my grandfather for a year and he has always been very close to me too. We wouldn't trash talk each other, but we'd have fun spirited arguments about the Braves/A's. Now granted, I really didn't have firm footing in that argument, but at least the Braves only won the World Series one time. Both my aunt and my Papaw were huge UT fans. We would talk about UT sports a lot, but looking back on it, the difference of opinions made it much more fun. I remember those debates and trash talk sessions much more than I remember all the UT games.

I realize I'm talking about an aunt and a Papaw, but my aunt was the one responsible for taking me to UT games as a kid. When I watched games on TV, I watched them with my Papaw, so I really think you can relate the two. I understand that your kid is young now, so it's a little more difficult, but that's only for a few years. Once your kids grows up a few more years, the rivalry can be so much more fun.

Daniel Snyder is awful. I mean just awful. But he's pulled away from running the team and it's now in Allen and Shanahan's hands. It's going to take years for them to rebuild this team. We still need an offensive line, our defense is older than dirt and we still don't have a great receiving corps. And to top it all off, by the time all that's taken care of, we will be searching for our next qb. But it's the Redskins. It's:

Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath,
Fight for Old DC!

It's the hogs, it's remembering John Riggins, Art Monk, Russ Grimm and Darrell Green. It's Joe Gibbs and 3 Super Bowls with 3 different qbs. It's the burgundy and gold. it's the freaking Washington Redskins. How can you possibly jump ship to the frickin Cowboys? It'd be like NYYVOL becoming a Red Sox fan, doozer joining you as a Cardinals fan. You might as well become like TennesseeFan07 and cheer for seven teams in each sport. It's just not right, bottom line. And because of that, I can no longer speak to you, and I'd appreciate it if you did the same. If for some reason you need to come down on me as a MOD, well get with GA, or LIO or Jr, heck you can even get with PJ or Milo or Volmanbill. But I can't talk to a traitor...
 
#69
#69
Is dude serious? LOL. Why in the hell does it bother him that much? Are yall brothers or BFF's or something? WTH?
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#70
#70
Orangekush423 said:
Is dude serious? LOL. Why in the hell does it bother him that much? Are yall brothers or BFF's or something? WTH?
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I understand and respect Bill's passion for the Skins. I will miss him as a friend.
 
#71
#71
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#72
#72
I just don't have room my life for Benedict Arnold's. Vader can bite me.

That said, I know deep down he's going to be cheering the redskins on over the cowpokes. He doesn't have it in him not to
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#73
#73
This weekend really is my first true test. It was like old times cheering against the Eagles.

Oh and now that I am not a Skins fan...LOL Rex Grossman
 
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