i wonder if muslims will still want to bomb us

#31
#31
Even those that don't are responsible to a degree for allowing their religion to be hijacked by fanatics.

Couldn't that criticism be levied at every religion with a faction of extremists doing evil in the name of that religion?
 
#33
#33
Couldn't that criticism be levied at every religion with a faction of extremists doing evil in the name of that religion?

At certain times in every religions history I am sure that would be true. However at this point in time Islamic terrorists are the only group that is doing anything like this, especially on the same scale. Islam has a serious problem in today"s world and those peace loving followers of Islam are silent for the most part while their brethren commit savage acts against those who believe differently then themselves.
 
#34
#34
Like bombing abortion clinics? Shooting rampages in a mall?

The problem with drawing a correlation here is that neither of these two groups of people responsible for these acts exist in any significant numbers.
 
#35
#35
At certain times in every religions history I am sure that would be true. However at this point in time Islamic terrorists are the only group that is doing anything like this, especially on the same scale. Islam has a serious problem in today"s world and those peace loving followers of Islam are silent for the most part while their brethren commit savage acts against those who believe differently then themselves.


"Silent for the most part"? I've personally seen many, many Muslims who oppose and decry terrorism by anyone, including in the name of Islam. Where do you get that the bulk of Muslims sit idly by on this.
 
#36
#36
The problem with drawing a correlation here is that neither of these two groups of people responsible for these acts exist in any significant numbers.

Maybe raw numbers, but what about percentages? How many Southern Baptists are there compared to Muslims?
 
#37
#37
"Silent for the most part"? I've personally seen many, many Muslims who oppose and decry terrorism by anyone, including in the name of Islam. Where do you get that the bulk of Muslims sit idly by on this.

Because if they truly wanted to stomp out this element from their ranks they have the greatest power to do so. They find a sympathetic ear in a significant amount of their Islamic brethren. Of those that you do hear speaking out against the violence, most of them come from among the more civilized nations.

The problem is most certainly a combination of economic and social factors in less developed countries. I will not claim that the majority of Muslims believe the violence is ok in the eyes of Islam. I will however say that many maybe 35 to 40% believe that is justified in some sense, or at the very least can understand why some would go to the lengths that they do. IMO this is just as bad as allowing it to happen which is essentially what they are doing.
 
#38
#38
"Silent for the most part"? I've personally seen many, many Muslims who oppose and decry terrorism by anyone, including in the name of Islam. Where do you get that the bulk of Muslims sit idly by on this.

I would imagine he includes Muslims that don't live in the US in "silent for the most part" group. And I would have to agree with him
 
#40
#40
Maybe raw numbers, but what about percentages? How many Southern Baptists are there compared to Muslims?

SB's fall under the Christian category. Now take the total number of abortion clinic bombings, rampage shootings by devout Christians and compare that with the number of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks. I don't even need to look at numbers to tell you the difference would be something like 30 to 1.
 
#41
#41
I would imagine he includes Muslims that don't live in the US in "silent for the most part" group. And I would have to agree with him

yes, I should have been much clearer on that point.
 
#42
#42
SB's fall under the Christian category. Now take the total number of abortion clinic bombings, rampage shootings by devout Christians and compare that with the number of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks. I don't even need to look at numbers to tell you the difference would be something like 30 to 1.

Don't forget to factor in Northern Ireland and the Balkans.
 
#43
#43
Don't forget to factor in Northern Ireland and the Balkans.

Very true, that would certainly bring down the 30 to 1 figure I threw out there. Maybe something along the order of 15 to 1? Not trying to change the rules in the middle of a contest but let us also keep in mind the number killed in these attacks.
 
#44
#44
Southern Baptists are the only Christians that have terrorists?

SB's fall under the Christian category. Now take the total number of abortion clinic bombings, rampage shootings by devout Christians and compare that with the number of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks. I don't even need to look at numbers to tell you the difference would be something like 30 to 1.

I was comparing SB with Islam. There are dozens of Christian religions. I was singling out SB as one of the radical reformations under Christianity.
 
#45
#45
I go to a SB church and my grandfather is a SB preacher and I would not consider us radical.

Granted I drink and dance with my wife so I'm not hardcore SB... too legalistic.
 
#46
#46
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chuck norris would be proud
 
#47
#47
Very true, that would certainly bring down the 30 to 1 figure I threw out there. Maybe something along the order of 15 to 1? Not trying to change the rules in the middle of a contest but let us also keep in mind the number killed in these attacks.

But your including a large number of attacks in known war zones. Although they are technically "terrorist attacks", it's not like blowing up the clinic on the corner of Main Street in Anytown USA.

And for the record, I agree that silence is support in this case, but I don't think all Muslims are supporting the radical faction that blows themselves up in the name of Allah.
 
#49
#49
I go to a SB church and my grandfather is a SB preacher and I would not consider us radical.

Granted I drink and dance with my wife so I'm not hardcore SB... too legalistic.

I think, technically speaking, SB's are considered radical Christians.

Which isn't all bad - in fact, it's rad.
 
#50
#50
But your including a large number of attacks in known war zones. Although they are technically "terrorist attacks", it's not like blowing up the clinic on the corner of Main Street in Anytown USA.

And for the record, I agree that silence is support in this case, but I don't think all Muslims are supporting the radical faction that blows themselves up in the name of Allah.

And neither do I. I do believe there is a significant number that do however.
 

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