If Stokes Enrolls Next Semester....

#51
#51
BasketvolsFan said:
What about bringing him in as a red-shirt for this season and giving him the remainder of the season to practice with the team and get ready for next season?
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Or tell him that while he'll play, he won't start. I think he would understand.
 
#53
#53
LawVol13 said:
I'm somehow pretty confident that we'll figure out a way around that.
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Schools can get around the deadline for admissions but if they get around a deadline for academic money that is a big NCAA violation. We don't hear anything about that in FB and hoops but it is a big no no in other sports.
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#54
#54
So the NCAA will go into meltdown mode if a coach contacts a high school player on the wrong day or at the wrong place, but it has no problem with a school tossing aside the entire academic calendar to give said athletes preferential treatment.

Interesting.
 
#56
#56
It was reported by a poster on TOS that Stokes said today on the radio that he had already submitted the paperwork to enroll at all the schools he's interested in.
 
#58
#58
Velo Vol said:
So the NCAA will go into meltdown mode if a coach contacts a high school player on the wrong day or at the wrong place, but it has no problem with a school tossing aside the entire academic calendar to give said athletes preferential treatment.

Interesting.
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If the NCAA set application deadlines, then you would have a point, but they don't. Why would the NCAA regulate a date they have no say in setting? It's just an administrative/bookkeeping date.
 
#60
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LawVol13 said:
Memphis and UK do not have an available scholarship for him. The Commercial Appeal says he would have to try to qualify for an academic scholarship at Memphis that would cover tuition but seems to imply that it would not cover room and board. I don't know if this is an issue or not. It couldn't hurt our chances since we do have a scholarship ready and waiting on him.
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If I'm not mistaken....

Stacey Poole is transferring out of UK.

Jarrod Polson will probably made to be a walk on next year so that will open up 2 scholarships.


but as i just found out.......

Poole's scholarship cannot be used by Stokes



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#61
#61
crittyvols said:
He gets up at around 5 am everyday to workout...conditioning won't be a problem with him, he has a work ethic like Tobias.
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Conditioning is a problem for any HS athlete who's trying to come right in and contribute to a high major team. Stokes has been working out solo with his trainer and hasn't played a second of competitive ball since the beginning of the summer. Stokes works his ace off, but the only thing that can acclimate him to the d1 game is to play with D1 players.
 
#62
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l3rewski said:
If the NCAA set application deadlines, then you would have a point, but they don't. Why would the NCAA regulate a date they have no say in setting? It's just an administrative/bookkeeping date.
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I don't think it is the deadline itself that would give the NCAA heartburn, but the preferential treatment above and beyond what a typical student at the university could expect. If the university regularly waived the deadline for non-athletes, maybe they would have a case.
 
#63
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Thrasher865 said:
I don't think it is the deadline itself that would give the NCAA heartburn, but the preferential treatment above and beyond what a typical student at the university could expect. If the university regularly waived the deadline for non-athletes, maybe they would have a case.
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Good point, and something that I hadn't thought of.
 
#64
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MemphisCanes said:
Conditioning is a problem for any HS athlete who's trying to come right in and contribute to a high major team. Stokes has been working out solo with his trainer and hasn't played a second of competitive ball since the beginning of the summer. Stokes works his ace off, but the only thing that can acclimate him to the d1 game is to play with D1 players.
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Exactly and D-1 basketball is an entirely different situation mentally, too.
 
#65
#65
Thrasher865 said:
I don't think it is the deadline itself that would give the NCAA heartburn, but the preferential treatment above and beyond what a typical student at the university could expect. If the university regularly waived the deadline for non-athletes, maybe they would have a case.
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I see your point. I just think that should be the decision of the school, since institutional priorities/missions vary. I'm sure there have been circumstances where non-athletes were allowed to submit applications past the deadline. Either way, it probably doesn't happen often enough to really matter.
 
#66
#66
MemphisCanes said:
Conditioning is a problem for any HS athlete who's trying to come right in and contribute to a high major team. Stokes has been working out solo with his trainer and hasn't played a second of competitive ball since the beginning of the summer. Stokes works his ace off, but the only thing that can acclimate him to the d1 game is to play with D1 players.
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Well considering he played in a scrimmage for Southwind and scored 25 points the beginning of this month, I doubt that's right.
 
#67
#67
alumvol08 said:
Well considering he played in a scrimmage for Southwind and scored 25 points the beginning of this month, I doubt that's right.
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As I said, zero competitive basketball. I'm sure he's played pick-up games at the local Y, too. That doesn't mean he's in game shape.
 
#68
#68
MemphisCanes said:
As I said, zero competitive basketball. I'm sure he's played pick-up games at the local Y, too. That doesn't mean he's in game shape.
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Never said he was in game shape, but I would think that going through practices with the team and playing in scrimmages would be something more than pickup games or zero competitive basketball.
 
#69
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alumvol08 said:
Never said he was in game shape, but I would think that going through practices with the team and playing in scrimmages would be something more than pickup games or zero competitive basketball.
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Playing in only practices (which I'm not sure he has, sounds like he's been working with a trainer only) and scrimmages sounds EXACTLY like playing zero competitive ball to me.
 
#70
#70
MemphisCanes said:
Playing in only practices (which I'm not sure he has, sounds like he's been working with a trainer only) and scrimmages sounds EXACTLY like playing zero competitive ball to me.
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You can think whatever you want. I'm sure you'll also think he's an overrated player if he doesn't end up going to Memphis.
 
#71
#71
alumvol08 said:
You can think whatever you want. I'm sure you'll also think he's an overrated player if he doesn't end up going to Memphis.
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I think Stokes is a solid big man, if not a bit undersized. I'll wish him luck wherever he goes, although I hope (and think) he'll be a Tiger. We've already signed another top 25 big man for 2012, so it won't be a total loss. I just wish he'd make up his mind already.
 
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#75
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l3rewski said:
I see your point. I just think that should be the decision of the school, since institutional priorities/missions vary. I'm sure there have been circumstances where non-athletes were allowed to submit applications past the deadline. Either way, it probably doesn't happen often enough to really matter.
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If a school wanted to transport basketball players to class in limousines and allowed them to skip all papers in classes, this wouldn't be a problem?
 
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