If you are giving up on Butch ten games into his first season

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jahvol said:
God, why didn't we hire you as coach?!?!? What were we thinking, you are obviously the next general.
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Oh yeah. GREAT... INTELLIGENT.... response. Don't look at the obvious. Just take smart aleck shots at those who do.
 
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orange_glory said:
Offense has improved? What about "False start" Tiny, interception prone Dobbs, WR drops, etc. If the offense has improved it ain't by much
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I don't like the OL play. They have disappointed. The WR's and RB's have played well IMO. I completely understand why Dobbs would make mistakes. That was a pretty ugly duck though.
 
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fade route said:
How dare a true freshman making his 2nd start throw an int versus the #9 team in the country! We are moving the ball better, running the ball better, North has developed as a playmaker, etc.
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It's not the interception it's the decision making.
 
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fade route said:
Or Jaron Toney, or Devon Swafford, etc. Some people will just never get it.
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Those guys are the reason DL's are being blown off the LOS? They're the reason other players are constantly out of position? They're the reason UT gets gashed between the tackles?

I really understand guys like Toney getting physically beat. I don't have a complaint there. That will take time and recruiting to fix. Where I see a problem is that the guys WITH talent are not playing well and for the last 3 games seem to be getting worse.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
I'm right there with you...I need to see some proof...firing janceck and martinez who are UGA's unwanted leftovers would be a huge step...
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The only thing I don't know about that is whether it would result in any key decommitments. I wish we could get Muschamp as DC because UF will fire him if they don't beat the Noles maybe even if they do. However, the hfc is the one who fails or succeeds with his assistants and I don't want to go through another round of having the head coach whine about not getting to retain who he wants (Sanders Clawson ring a bell?).
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't like the OL play. They have disappointed. The WR's and RB's have played well IMO. I completely understand why Dobbs would make mistakes. That was a pretty ugly duck though.
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I agree I like Dobbs but the line gets no push
 
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orange_glory said:
I like Dobbs but the Offense isn't much better
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The O isn't better but it isn't very reasonable to expect it to be. ZR, CP, and JH were a very good set of WR's and Bray could sling it.

The D is basically the same players plus guys CBJ added. I WOULD expect them to be better. Better game prep, fundamental coaching, schemes, playcalling, etc.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I may be alone here on the fence but I never got on board with this hire to begin with. I wanted the splash hire. I figured that the AD owed the fans something after the crap product they've been serving up lo these many seasons but for whatever reason Hart was unwilling or unable to serve us up the kind of big name that would become a rallying point for fans and players alike. Butch will be here at least another couple of years, unless he pulls a Kiffin move on us, so I'm not going to trash him in year one but from where I sit this staff started out at ground zero and I need tangible proof that the bricks are being laid as promised. The next two games will be telling. Vandy won't be easy but we get 2 weeks to prepare and its in Neyland. Kentucky is who we think they are. There's no good reason for this team not to make a bowl game. After that we wait to see if they get the hay in the barn come Feb.
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What people needs to realize that this AD and most really couldn't care less about wins and losses. It's all about the money. As long as people are still lapping up season tickets the team can 0-12 and it doesn't matter. Hart is in his last position, he'll retire after this gig. He has no allegiance to UT except for the paycheck. UT will never go after a big hire because they don't have to.
 
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Check back in early February for the 'we are gonna win at least 9' threads. They will be mixed in with the 'why we beat Oklahoma this fall' threads. They will be next to the ' U must be a liberal p@#$%y threads '..Coming to a VN site near you.
 
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ncvol17 said:
Check back in early February for the 'we are gonna win at least 9' threads. They will be mixed in with the 'why we beat Oklahoma this fall' threads. They will be next to the ' U must be a liberal p@#$%y threads '..Coming to a VN site near you.
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like the swallows of Capistrano.
 
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#67
This staff does to much talking and not enough action. We hired a coach from Cincy that has let on like he has won national tittles and all this " process stuff"
 
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#68
Saban went 7-6 his first year with much more talent and an easier schedule. If you jump ship now please don't come back.
 
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westsidefan said:
you can't coach up what's not there.

saban went 6-6 his first year at alabama...
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Ok im gonna say this slowly. Butch Jones is not Saban. Saban had built up programs previously before his current stop at Alabama. Butch Jones has simply just stepped into Brian Kellys shoes at CMU and Cinci. Stop comparing the two its apples and oranges
 
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VolFootballlover said:
stop flip flopping
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I'm not flip flopping. It was embarrassing. That doesn't mean that I'm jumping ship or changing my opinion of Butch. Nice to see someone reads my posts though.

Big difference in being upset with the teams effort and calling for Butch's head or comparing him to Dooley as some are doing.
 
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rocketskates said:
Saban went 7-6 his first year with much more talent and an easier schedule. If you jump ship now please don't come back.
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These jump ship, go pull for so n so threads are some of the most idiotic threads on VN. News flash, no one still here supporting the vols after the last few years is a bandwagon fan. Everyone here loves the vols and just because they have a different opinion than you it doesn't make them less of a fan than you.
 
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