‘23 IL WR Carnell Tate (Ohio State commit)

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valleybucknut said:
Buckeye fan here. Been reading this thread over the past week or so to get your side's perspective on Tate's recruitment. Been enjoying it, lots of good info and I love a fanbase that cares. However, aside from all that, is the presiding thought really that OSU is some second rate program that is only good because it's in the "weak" Big Ten? Asked another way, if Tennessee and Ohio State flipped conferences, do you think Tennessee would be more successful in the Big Ten than Ohio State is? And that Ohio State would be less successful in the SEC than Tennessee is?

edit to give my point of view: I concede that the SEC is absolutely better than the Big Ten overall. My view is that Ohio State basically operates like a top SEC team, and that if you dropped them in the SEC, they'd compete for titles along with Georgia, Bama, and LSU. They obviously wouldn't be winning the conference every year like they do in the Big Ten, but they wouldn't be a middling SEC program either.
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If Ohio state had to play bama and uga every year along with an additional 7 sec games…they’d definitely not end the year with the same record as they have enjoyed in recent years. Same as Clemson. However, just based on talent on the rosters I’m sure they’d still win a bunch of games. And I’m sure the committee would take into consideration strength of schedule and give them more leniency when choosing their teams. As is…teams outside the sec really have to be undefeated to get in the 4 team playoff.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just saying that one did have stars, they may have just had 4, not 5. The web was nothing like it is now, hardly anybody used email and there were dial up modems, etc. Totally different ballgame than today or even 5 years after that.
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Going in a circle. It wasn’t an established resource. Good decision not to argue.
 
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sneakergawd said:
I’m not saying we get Tate but Kelsey Pope did just share Carnell’s post. My 1st thought is why would he share this post if Tate has already told the coaches he’s committing to OSU

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Bc pope is a good guy and regardless of where Tate chooses he still supports him
Coaches like pope that do this gain respect quickly bc they care about guys
 
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The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
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weird
 
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Rundown from RC on how we got here and his current thoughts.

The Buckeyes have received all four predictions for Tate on the 247Sports Crystal Ball. Two of the predictions were made on Friday, when 247Sports' Tom Loy also increased the confidence level on the Ohio State prediction he made in March.
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He has visited Tennessee four times since late November and twice since April. The Vols hosted him on his first official visit the weekend of April 9, and he returned to Knoxville on his most recent visit the weekend of May 14.
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After his official visit to Tennessee more than two months ago, he told GoVols247 that the Vols stood “at the top with the other schools.”
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“People think Tennessee don’t have a chance,” Tate said after his official visit to Tennessee in April. “They do have a chance, especially with (five-star commitment) Nico (Iamaleava) at QB and Coach Heup’s offense. It’s a receiver-friendly offense, the air-raid offense, that I love.”
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More than a week ago, while attending the Overtime OT7 event in Las Vegas, Tate told 247Sports' Steve Wiltfong that the program he chooses will "have a great, winning atmosphere," along with "a great coaching staff and great player development, and a great offense that fits me.” Tate said at the time that Ohio State, Tennessee and Notre Dame were his finalists.

"It’s a receivers dream to get the ball almost every play and stuff like that," Tate told Wiltfong of the Vols last week. "They have (wide receivers) coach (Kelsey) Pope, who has the heart of the players. The players vouch for him every day."
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Information gathered about recruits doesn’t necessarily have to come from the player himself. In a lot of cases, it doesn’t come directly from the player. Being a reporter consists of a lot more than just doing on-the-record interviews.

As I’ve said throughout the week, a lot of the signs over the past several days have pointed toward Ohio State. It looked pretty good for the Vols at one point, but I think it’s safe to say right now that the Buckeyes should be viewed as the favorites.
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Ohio State has felt pretty good all along, based on everything I’ve heard, so the Buckeyes would probably tell you not much changed throughout the process. But people close to his recruitment were indicating that Tennessee had the upper hand in recent weeks, and that hasn’t been the case down the stretch.

All I can tell you is that it’s recruiting, and there’s a reason we say nothing is ever really a done deal until a kid announces or signs. And now in the NIL era, things can be even less predictable in some cases.
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
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Interesting
 
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butchna said:
Would've loved to have had access to it.
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A friend of mine told me about it, it's literally the first thing I regularly went on the internet for. You are 100% right that the various magazines which were the standard then didn't have stars. Border Wars also kind of went down the tubes when the dot com bubble burst but then it reemerged and rebranded as Rivals when Shannon Terry bought it around 2000. I think he actually bought several different sites, and Border Wars was the one focused on Southern football. I can't remember for sure.
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
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Wth is he talking about😂
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
- AP
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Sounds like someone on Ohio St’s staff has been negatively recruiting hard against us the last few weeks.
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
The more stuff I hear….the more something seems off…not in a something happened kinda way but just something seems odd or quirky kinda way. I don’t have a good feel and I get OSU is Uber confident but just seems odd to me. Maybe he picks OSU tomorrow and it was what it was. Idk HTR…just kinda different to me
- AP
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It’s Notre Dame.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Austin Price and Ryan Callahan both gave less than encouraging reports last night. Not that it's 100% over, just that it wasn't looking good. Somebody posted Price's comments ITT late last night. Here's Callahan's again, Price's message was similar.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this kid said all along that he wanted his announcement to be a surprise?
 
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