Illinois parade shooting spree

[0nelilreb]

I provided a response to Hog's post.
Obviously people in poorer countries are more likely to have more urgent issues to address than anxiety/depression.
That's sort of the point.
Our high level of "mental illness" is due, at least partially, to our economic system. (which includes big pharma and income inequality).

First world problems … instant gratification, a lack of self responsibility and social media platforms that promote self esteem based off of likes and approvals from strangers .

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I'd guess that at least half of my wife's friends are on some type of anti-depressant or bipolar type drug and none of these ladies are even close to being poor.

I'd guess that more of your male friends than you think are as well.

 

[hog88]

Being dependent on a drug to "keep it together" is now popular. When I was growing up there was something wrong with you.

Same here. It boggles my mind to listen to them talk about all of their troubles. I really want to jump up and say "you stupid cow, you live in a mcmansion, drive a xyz luxury suv, have never missed a meal in your life and you need drugs to help you through the day"?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

His rapper name was awake

And?

 

[hog88]

I'd guess that more of your male friends than you think are as well.

I wouldn't doubt that is the case, it's just not a topic of conversation. Some of them are wussies that I have to hang around because of the wife.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I keep hearing arguments about how we need to do more for the mentally ill and prevent them from obtaining firearms but never hear anyone asking why we have such a disproportionate amount of mentally ill in this country. Why are so many Americans on anti-depressants, attention deficit and bi-polar drugs? Depression is almost unheard of in 3rd world countries yet here in the land of plenty almost 10% of all adults supposedly suffer a depressive illness, why is that? Per Johns Hopkins, a quarter of all American adults suffer from some form of mental illness so those wanting to "do something" about these mass shooter events probably need to start there and push for answers as to why Americans suffer "mental illness" at such a high rate.

We create ailments to fit a drug. I wonder if there is a correlation between an increase in mental illness and the time when pharmaceutical companies were granted permission to advertise on TV?

 

[Vol8188]

I provided a response to Hog's post.
Obviously people in poorer countries are more likely to have more urgent issues to address than anxiety/depression.
That's sort of the point.
Our high level of "mental illness" is due, at least partially, to our economic system. (which includes big pharma and income inequality).

That's the opposite of your point. Your point is that this is a problem created by inequality/big pharma. Not that the same level of these issues likely exists in various populations but they just can't afford to address it.

So if by "this is due to our economic system" you mean we are wealthy enough to concern ourselves with chronic rather than acute conditions, then we agree.

But what you appear to be saying is the complete opposite of that (our wealth causes anxiety/depression)

 

[hog88]

We create ailments to fit a drug. I wonder if there is a correlation between an increase in mental illness and the time when pharmaceutical companies were granted permission to advertise on TV?

Damn good question.

 

[Vol8188]

I'd guess that at least half of my wife's friends are on some type of anti-depressant or bipolar type drug and none of these ladies are even close to being poor.

It's easier than the alternative of actually addressing your problems.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That is Palm Springs one of the highest rates of crime in lawless California. So it’s not surprising they would have snipers to take out gang members or nut jobs

Smart action considering the lawlessness of the arena.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

No, Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III Is NOT a MAGA Guy ⋆ The Liberty Daily

And if he is not will you denounce the party that radicalized him?

Who they vote for is irrelevant . The media, social media, celebrities, and politicians are to blame for the rhetoric that sets these people off.

The photo of the rose tattoo is proven fake. Taken straight from Reddit, originally posted 8 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/20kb8b/i_thought_id_share_my_first_tattoo_purists_dont/

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I wouldn't doubt that is the case, it's just not a topic of conversation. Some of them are wussies that I have to hang around because of the wife.

I don't discuss my meds with anyone aside from my emergency contacts and my doctor, regardless of what it's for.

Lol, are you saying taking antidepressants is a wussy thing to do?

 

[Vol8188]

The photo of the rose tattoo is proven fake. Taken straight from Reddit, originally posted 8 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/20kb8b/i_thought_id_share_my_first_tattoo_purists_dont/

Also has a rose on his neck that's present in multiple photos. Not sure if it means anything, but it's there. Also present on videos of him.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

 

[DinkinFlicka]

It's easier than the alternative of actually addressing your problems.

I know this is going to be a lot to take in, but medicating mental illness and addressing lifestyle changes aren't mutually exclusive scenarios.

 

[hog88]

I don't discuss my meds with anyone aside from my emergency contacts and my doctor, regardless of what it's for.

Lol, are you saying taking antidepressants is a wussy thing to do?

For most, yes.

 

[Orangeburst]

First world problems … instant gratification, a lack of self responsibility and social media platforms that promote self esteem based off of likes and approvals from strangers .

Just gave you a like...my seal of approval.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

For most, yes.

Lol. Okay.

I think most would say that repressing mental illness is the wuss move, as well as stupid.

 

[Vol8188]

I know this is going to be a lot to take in, but medicating mental illness and addressing lifestyle changes aren't mutually exclusive scenarios.

At any point did I say they were? Or do you just enjoy random strawman arguments?

My argument is simple. This is not the same quality of diagnosis as testing positive for the flu. This means x% of people on these meds, would respond equally well (or better) to lifestyle changes because they do not have an underlying physiological issue with serotonin production.

 

[hog88]

Lol. Okay.

I think most would say that repressing mental illness is the wuss move, as well as stupid.

The vast majority of middle class or higher healthy males in the US have zero reason to have a depressive mental illness.

 

[sonofUT62]

I'd guess that at least half of my wife's friends are on some type of anti-depressant or bipolar type drug and none of these ladies are even close to being poor.

Getting a good table at the Club is stressful during the summer.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

At any point did I say they were? Or do you just enjoy random strawman arguments?

My argument is simple. This is not the same quality of diagnosis as testing positive for the flu. This means x% of people on these meds, would respond equally well (or better) to lifestyle changes because they do not have an underlying physiological issue with serotonin production.

You used the word alternative, dude. That implies it's one or the other.

You're casting a pretty wide net for an argument with little to no evidence to support itself. Seratonin production is also one of many symptoms to address here.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

The vast majority of middle class or higher healthy males in the US have zero reason to have a depressive mental illness.

Interesting. Where's the data?

 

[Vol8188]

You used the word alternative, dude. That implies it's one or the other.

You're casting a pretty wide net for an argument with little to no evidence to support itself. Seratonin production is also one of many symptoms to address here.

Yes. For many people it is a valid alternative and when lifestyle changes can be made, they should be attempted first. What would you like for me to provide evidence for specifically?

 

[hog88]

Interesting. Where's the data?

That I don't know. I have tried to find studies on depressive disorders by income bracket and have had no luck so all I have is anecdotal data.