Illinois parade shooting spree

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Orangeslice13 said:
So if it hold 17 per magazine and you have 2 hands you should be able to get off 102 rounds in about 40 seconds.
Not aiming just shooting
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I have 33 round Glock 9mm mags for my PCC.

The problem here is that our resident dimwits have no actual understanding of how firearms work, nor how they are designed. It's a helluvalot easier to conceal a pistol, which is capable of firing just as fast as an AR15, and can accept mags with even more rounds than the standard issue 30 count scary rifle clip.

Realistically: two hands, two pistols with extended mags, without careful aim, it would be quite possible to fire 33x4 = 132 rounds in under 30 seconds.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I have 33 round Glock 9mm mags for my PCC.

The problem here is that our resident dimwits have no actual understanding of how firearms work, nor how they are designed. It's a helluvalot easier to conceal a pistol, which is capable of firing just as fast as an AR15, and can accept mags with even more rounds than the standard issue 30 count scary rifle clip.

Realistically: two hands, two pistols with extended mags, without careful aim, it would be quite possible to fire 33x4 = 132 rounds in under 30 seconds.
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I’ve mentioned several times here that I can put more rounds on target in a minute with the K31 straight pull (bolt action) than a AR or AK. I’ve got a buddy who is unbelievable with a Winchester lever gun.

But ya, the AR is scary
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’ve mentioned several times here that I can put more rounds on target in a minute with the K31 straight pull (bolt action) than a AR or AK. I’ve got a buddy who is unbelievable with a Winchester lever gun.

But ya, the AR is scary
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At the close ranges of the school and this parade shooting, it's actually quite probable that the carnage would have been worse with buckshot from a shotgun or larger caliber hollow point pistol ammo. Rifles are really designed to be advantageous at some distance, due to the accuracy gained by rifling of the barrel and bullet velocity.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’ve mentioned several times here that I can put more rounds on target in a minute with the K31 straight pull (bolt action) than a AR or AK. I’ve got a buddy who is unbelievable with a Winchester lever gun.

But ya, the AR is scary
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Which is one reason the gun debate cracks me up so much. Pistols and Shotguns could be way more deadly than this big scary AR 15, but the media has portrayed the AR as something it isnt so thats the big bad boogeyman. If you actually look, in a lot of countries with stupid gun laws pistols are actually more restricted than rifles, wanna guess why?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Which is one reason the gun debate cracks me up so much. Pistols and Shotguns could be way more deadly than this big scary AR 15, but the media has portrayed the AR as something it isnt so thats the big bad boogeyman. If you actually look, in a lot of countries with stupid gun laws pistols are actually more restricted than rifles, wanna guess why?
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Like NewYork where you can still buy an AR but you have to have a permit to own a pistol?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Which is one reason the gun debate cracks me up so much. Pistols and Shotguns could be way more deadly than this big scary AR 15, but the media has portrayed the AR as something it isnt so thats the big bad boogeyman. If you actually look, in a lot of countries with stupid gun laws pistols are actually more restricted than rifles, wanna guess why?
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For one, you aren't sneaking a long rifle in anywhere.

When I carry, no one around me knows unless I'm wearing a thin tee shirt and stand a certain way.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
For one, you aren't sneaking a long rifle in anywhere.

When I carry, no one around me knows unless I'm wearing a thin tee shirt and stand a certain way.
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I'm usually wearing a loose fitting shirt outside my pants.
Here's your sign ! 😉
 
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lawgator1 said:
The least number of shots I have heard so far is 70, but this said 83.

You think a guy with a handgun could have gotten off 70-83 shots from the roof in that timeframe?


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So the only plausible scenario is that he shoots from the roof. gotcha.
 
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hog88 said:
Exactly. The gun grabbers like LG, Luther and Ohvol are dishonest at every turn and know absolutely nothing about firearms and that is why there can be no compromise.
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I know you’re just using ad hominem as a defense mechanism, but you literally know nothing about my knowledge of firearms, except for what I’ve told you. Willing to bet I’m much more proficient than you assume though. I hate to take that from you because I know “dem is stoopid bout gunz” is all many of you have to hang your hat on, but yeah, I know plenty.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I have 33 round Glock 9mm mags for my PCC.

The problem here is that our resident dimwits have no actual understanding of how firearms work, nor how they are designed. It's a helluvalot easier to conceal a pistol, which is capable of firing just as fast as an AR15, and can accept mags with even more rounds than the standard issue 30 count scary rifle clip.

Realistically: two hands, two pistols with extended mags, without careful aim, it would be quite possible to fire 33x4 = 132 rounds in under 30 seconds.
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Capacity, yeah, handguns are much more efficient. Accuracy though…
 
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