I'm disgusted. Something has to change.

#52
#52
BTW, Kiffin wants it changed too, but is clear that he will expose it while it’s allowed. I also hate when we do it after PAT’s.
 

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Were we faking injuries after xp attempts in 2021?

Aside from the xp attempts, I can only think of 1 instance where we've done it during a drive. In the 2022 FL game, Omari Thomas faked an injury after FL picked up a chunk play and got into our redzone. I distinctly remember it because I was worried until he got to the sideline, quit limping, and started laughing.

We can't claim to be angels, but I'll say there's a distinct difference in the gamesmanship between faking an injury to extend the dead clock period before a kickoff, and faking an injury to disrupt the play clock during a drive. I'd be content to quit exploiting the loophole after xp attempts if other teams had to quit exploiting it against us during our drives.
 
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Golfprovol said:
No he does it because we score so fast and he wants a few more minutes of rest for the D.
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I understand that. I’m just saying that he may abuse the non rule in the situation in an attempt to draw attention. I also understand that we score so fast that the d needs a few more moments of rest. It’s a win-win.
 
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Health and safety of the injured player should always be the number 1 priority.

My solution: The player must go through full physical evaluation and is ineligible to return to the field of play for 30 minutes.
 
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Volador said:
So, I was just toggling back and forth between the end of the OLE Miss/KY (Boom - congrats Cats!) game and the NIU/Wolfpack (good job pack on helping our SOS) game and in the last 4 minutes of each game, there were a combined 6 players who were down on the ground complaining of injuries and therefore, having a time out called and stopping the momentum of the opposing teams drive. EACH PLAYER, after careful examination by their equipment manager, got up and walked off the field under their own power without hesitation, missing limbs, broken bones, concussions, etc.

I don't have the solution, but this phantom bogus injuries must be met with a penalty to the team that owns these Oscar nominees. At minimum, the ref should have the ability on his call to deduct a time out if they feel the player is feigning the injury. This is a serious problem for the NCAA and we are seeing it way too much.

Oh, and before I get off my soapbox, yes, Kiffin's players led the charge in this category today. They deserved to lose, and they did!
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you should’ve seen Jaxson Dart turn and tell his RB to go down. The commentators even showed it on replay and said said how it’s used as strategy now and teams know to do it. NCAA needs to come up with something.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The solution is simple. Currently you have to stay out 1 play before coming back.

Increase that time. Example:

You have to stay out for the remainder of that series and the next series. So you miss 2 series anytime you go down
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The problem is teams will insert a scrub to flop when needed....so an extended time out-of-game is a moot point.
 
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You could also easily just make the super obvious ones “unsportsmanlike conduct” if
The camera shows someone telling a player to go down and player suddenly does, review it and throw a flag. Less obvious ones, hurt player can’t come back in on the drive. It sucks for cramps (stay hydrated) or zingers, but it’s the sacrifice necessary.
 
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UT97Vol said:
I don’t know if you saw it but in the Ole Miss game earlier in the day when OlenMiss was trying to get a play in, Jackson Dart looked at his RB and signaled for him to flop down with a fake injury. The “Kiffin injury” is real, but the injury isn’t.

Something needs to be done about this. I think we’ve reached a place that if you go out with an injury you can’t return on that possession. Or maybe more.
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They showed this on ESPNs game day wrap up. It was egregious.

Maybe ESPN should call it the "Lane Kiffin Weekly Sniper Award" and highlight the worst 5 every week. We can all go online to vote.
 
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volfeeva said:
One video is floating around on the web shows the designated Old Miss player is not paying attention to the sidelines signaling him to fall down, so his team mates get his attention and he falls straight down on que. Perhaps the ESPN guys who give out helmet stickers on College Football Final can give out Academy Award stickers for the best ghost injury. Maybe showing how silly they look and embarrassing them would help stop it.
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They "fined" him on College Football Final in their segment "That's a dollar!"

Herbstreit's rant last week will be more impactful than "That's a dollar".
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
The problem is teams will insert a scrub to flop when needed....so an extended time out-of-game is a moot point.
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Well, that means they have to play at least a down with a scrub every time they do it. They will run out of scrubs and end up playing weak just for the chance to do it.
I think just a 4 down evaluation period would be enough to stop most of it.
 
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I think it is real simple. If you come out because you are injured, you should have to sit the remainder of that series, and the next series that said player's unit is on the field (i.e. if the player is playing defense at the time of the injury, that player would need to sit the remainder of the current series and the next series his team is on defense). Such a rule would greatly reduce (if not stop) the flopping, and it is also a good rule for player safety. If someone is injured, the trainers need sufficient time to make sure they can safely resume play.
 
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Make the "injured" player sit out the next four plays. An offensive possession is expected to last at least 4 plays, a set of downs. If 4 plays extends to the next offensive possession, they sit out as many as needed to get to 4.
A rule making "injured" players sit out a specific amount of time off the game clock would be very difficult to officiate, but counting plays should be doable during a game. It might require a dedicated official in the replay booth, but very doable.

4 plays isn't perfect, but it is easily tracked and easy to understand. It respects player safety and fairness to the offense.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don’t think a player being injured should ever hurt your team in teams of down and distance.
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The issue is NOT the injured players, it is those embellishing their status with direction from the staff. Take a timeout OR player cannot return for a minimum of 3 clock minutes to start. Series might end in 1 play and somebody has to track it. Real injuries are not coming back so fast.

Require medical staff to complete an approval form in that little tent before reentry with clock time when they entered care and when cleared. SAFETY FIRST. I bet a lot of guys will get off the field when it has a cost.
 
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