I'm disgusted. Something has to change.

[thunder5]

The solution is simple. Currently you have to stay out 1 play before coming back.

Increase that time. Example:

You have to stay out for the remainder of that series and the next series. So you miss 2 series anytime you go down

Ding ding ding…we have a winner…that’ll stop the fakers and protect the ones who are legit injured

 

[savannahfan]

I don’t know if you saw it but in the Ole Miss game earlier in the day when OlenMiss was trying to get a play in, Jackson Dart looked at his RB and signaled for him to flop down with a fake injury. The “Kiffin injury” is real, but the injury isn’t.

Something needs to be done about this. I think we’ve reached a place that if you go out with an injury you can’t return on that possession. Or maybe more.

I have said this from the beginning!! Would be no problem to police and simple in it's application, but oh no, we would never do anything this simple!! TV likely would not approve any change. It gives it's talking heads more time to babble or god forbid, more commercials!!

 

[Vol8188]

The issue is NOT the injured players, it is those embellishing their status with direction from the staff. Take a timeout OR player cannot return for a minimum of 3 clock minutes to start. Series might end in 1 play and somebody has to track it. Real injuries are not coming back so fast.

Require medical staff to complete an approval form in that little tent before reentry with clock time when they entered care and when cleared. SAFETY FIRST. I bet a lot of guys will get off the field when it has a cost.

Everyone understands the top. But if you penalize teams with a 5 yard penalty as another poster referenced, then you’ll be penalizing teams for players getting hurt.

I would force them to sit out 2 series

 

[WoodsmanVol]

It's beyond disgusting. It's becoming part of play calls now.

 

[Adam Sandler]

So, I was just toggling back and forth between the end of the OLE Miss/KY (Boom - congrats Cats!) game and the NIU/Wolfpack (good job pack on helping our SOS) game and in the last 4 minutes of each game, there were a combined 6 players who were down on the ground complaining of injuries and therefore, having a time out called and stopping the momentum of the opposing teams drive. EACH PLAYER, after careful examination by their equipment manager, got up and walked off the field under their own power without hesitation, missing limbs, broken bones, concussions, etc.

I don't have the solution, but this phantom bogus injuries must be met with a penalty to the team that owns these Oscar nominees. At minimum, the ref should have the ability on his call to deduct a time out if they feel the player is feigning the injury. This is a serious problem for the NCAA and we are seeing it way too much.

Oh, and before I get off my soapbox, yes, Kiffin's players led the charge in this category today. They deserved to lose, and they did!

I think a pretty simple deterrent would be if an injury causes a delay that player has to be evaluated again once they are removed from the field of play and they must remain out for the remainder of that drive. It’s not a solution but might bring down the number of times it happens. However then you’ll have the worst guy in the unit going down so a starter doesn’t have to and it’ll still probably end up happening.

Unfortunately something that might actually make them stop like being penalized or charged a timeout, can’t imagine that passing giving the contact oriented nature of the sport.

Maybe statistics around average number of injuries could be involved and after a certain number of injuries you actually do get penalized for subsequent ones.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Everyone understands the top. But if you penalize teams with a 5 yard penalty as another poster referenced, then you’ll be penalizing teams for players getting hurt.

I would force them to sit out 2 series

I’m in favor of the sit out, question being how long they’d have to. I would vote in favor of two possessions if it were proposed.

 

[VOLtaism]

The plays where they look at the sideline and then fall down are too obvious not to call. A player that does this should be unable to return to the game. One time would be enough to stop it, or at least make it more difficult.

 

[m1al]

Can we call the "trophy" for this the Lebron trophy or Bronnie for short?

 

[Volnuck]

So, I was just toggling back and forth between the end of the OLE Miss/KY (Boom - congrats Cats!) game and the NIU/Wolfpack (good job pack on helping our SOS) game and in the last 4 minutes of each game, there were a combined 6 players who were down on the ground complaining of injuries and therefore, having a time out called and stopping the momentum of the opposing teams drive. EACH PLAYER, after careful examination by their equipment manager, got up and walked off the field under their own power without hesitation, missing limbs, broken bones, concussions, etc.

I don't have the solution, but this phantom bogus injuries must be met with a penalty to the team that owns these Oscar nominees. At minimum, the ref should have the ability on his call to deduct a time out if they feel the player is feigning the injury. This is a serious problem for the NCAA and we are seeing it way too much.

Oh, and before I get off my soapbox, yes, Kiffin's players led the charge in this category today. They deserved to lose, and they did!

I remember the day when players would crawl off the field to not be seen as weak, today they relish the sight of attention. I agree with the penalty of the injured (or so-called injured) person has to stay out the rest of the series that they are in at the time. The worst part of this is that players with a hand injury, eye injury, which does not keep them from walking, still stay on the field to be seen and treated. However, until there is a legal rule made, “it is legal”.

 

[Chefdoll]

So, I was just toggling back and forth between the end of the OLE Miss/KY (Boom - congrats Cats!) game and the NIU/Wolfpack (good job pack on helping our SOS) game and in the last 4 minutes of each game, there were a combined 6 players who were down on the ground complaining of injuries and therefore, having a time out called and stopping the momentum of the opposing teams drive. EACH PLAYER, after careful examination by their equipment manager, got up and walked off the field under their own power without hesitation, missing limbs, broken bones, concussions, etc.

I don't have the solution, but this phantom bogus injuries must be met with a penalty to the team that owns these Oscar nominees. At minimum, the ref should have the ability on his call to deduct a time out if they feel the player is feigning the injury. This is a serious problem for the NCAA and we are seeing it way too much.

Oh, and before I get off my soapbox, yes, Kiffin's players led the charge in this category today. They deserved to lose, and they did!

How about if they go down with a fake injury, they can't come back in until the next series!!!

 

[BADGER_VOL]

I think it is real simple. If you come out because you are injured, you should have to sit the remainder of that series, and the next series that said player's unit is on the field (i.e. if the player is playing defense at the time of the injury, that player would need to sit the remainder of the current series and the next series his team is on defense). Such a rule would greatly reduce (if not stop) the flopping, and it is also a good rule for player safety. If someone is injured, the trainers need sufficient time to make sure they can safely resume play.

I agree it wouldn’t need more than this. It is fairly common for a guy to get the wind knocked out of them. So we don’t need to go crazy. Sitting out the remainder of the series I feel is plenty to deter abusing it.

 

[SuzyVol]

Sit out until released to resume participation by the opposing team's training staff.

 

[vik]

As a soccer fan, I've seen my fair share of flopping. One thing the soccer leagues have done to limit that is this:

The referee has NO OBLIBGATION to stop play for an injury (unless it's a head injury). So in the case of the Ole Miss RB going down for no apparent reason -- just play on. Ole Miss can call a timeout if they want, or spike the ball, or take a delay of game penalty, but that's on them. The refs of course have the discretion to stop the game, but not an obligation.

Furthermore (soccer doesn't do this but I would), if a player is found to have faked an injury via video review after a game (by a panel of refs or whatever on Monday or Tuesday), then that player has to miss one half of the next game (like a targeting punishment).

 

[Volador]

Lots of great ideas shared here on penalizing teams for late game flopping heroics. With all that input, here is my attempt at a solution for the NCAA.

1. Each team today starts w 3 fulltime time outs per half
a. If ANY player on your team has a referee call a Time Out due to an "apparent" injury within the last 4 minutes of a half/game, your team will forfeit a Full Time Out and have it replaced w a 30 second Time Out
* Suspected injured player must sit out two plays
b. If other than within 4 minutes of the half or end of the game, a player goes down with an "apparent" injury and the refereeing crew deems it was a flop, same reduction of time out is imposed
* Suspected injured player must sit out two plays
c. If any player within 4 minutes of half or end of games has an "apparent" injury but, team is without time outs, a 5 yard penalty will be assessed to that team
* Suspected injured player must sit out two plays

Volnuck brought up a good point previously in the thread bringing us all back to the day when hurt players would crawl off the field for fear of their team being penalized. The NCAA needs to tighten up it's flopping rules during the offseason as these kids are football players, not actors vying for Academy Awards.

 

[aRmo]

The solution is simple. Currently you have to stay out 1 play before coming back.

Increase that time. Example:

You have to stay out for the remainder of that series and the next series. So you miss 2 series anytime you go down

Make it a half of play. If you go down in first Qtr, you cant come back until 3rd Qtr. Gives you "30 mins" to hydrate your fake cramp

 

[Vol8188]

Make it a half of play. If you go down in first Qtr, you cant come back until 3rd Qtr. Gives you "30 mins" to hydrate your fake cramp

Too long. Someone’s QB out for a half would change the outcome of games. The goal should be to ensure player safety without making a dramatic difference in game outcome

 

[ffemtp]

If a player goes down with an injury that results in stoppage of play:
The player must go to the injury tent for a minimum of 5 minutes for the medical staff to properly assess and evaluate the injury.
The team may substitute for the injured player only.
During the injury time out the coaching staff shall not have contact with the on field players.

 

[CNCVol88]

The solution is simple. Currently you have to stay out 1 play before coming back.

Increase that time. Example:

You have to stay out for the remainder of that series and the next series. So you miss 2 series anytime you go down

Increase the time and make the only sub available be the injured person.

 

[Volnanza]

you should’ve seen Jaxson Dart turn and tell his RB to go down. The commentators even showed it on replay and said said how it’s used as strategy now and teams know to do it. NCAA needs to come up with something.

That's just Lane spreading his slime for another generation. Teaching his players that it's OK to cheat as long as you win. When you cheat and lose, you look like a fool. Enjoy the clown hat Kiffy.

 

[Volnanza]

I understand that. I’m just saying that he may abuse the non rule in the situation in an attempt to draw attention. I also understand that we score so fast that the d needs a few more moments of rest. It’s a win-win.

So you're scoring so fast, you need more time to rest on defense? This really makes no sense. If we are scoring fast, then the defense is getting us the ball back quickly, like Kent St. If scoring quickly wears out defense, then our defense would have been crawling off the field in that game. We WANT to score fast to put pressure on their offense to have to keep up. This makes them make mistakes and turnovers.

 

[Vol8188]

Increase the time and make the only sub available be the injured person.

lol what? Why?

 

[Utvolman1999]

The solution is simple. Currently you have to stay out 1 play before coming back.

Increase that time. Example:

You have to stay out for the remainder of that series and the next series. So you miss 2 series anytime you go down

I hear you, but let's say Nico get's shaken up on a play. Should he have to sit out TWO possessions? I think it should be four plays max.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Y'all will be fine with this: make them stay out for the rest of the series or whatever until Pili tweaks an ankle or takes a stinger and we get burned.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Orange931]

Let’s score in one play and we won’t have to worry about it.

 

[iuvol]

Flopping is bad and Kiffin used it to beat us. He’s an ass clown and I hate him. Sorry, off soapbox.

Refs didn’t help, we pick up. a fumble and take it to the house, they claim they blew it dead, they do not properly place the ball on the 4th down ( i am not sure it was a first down but I am sure it was placed wrong). Their flopping definitely hurt us as well.