Inflation Reduction Act

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#101
utvolpj said:
He didn't have to fire Fauci. All he needed to do was use the taskforce set up for Pence to disseminate all the information. Just remove them from the briefings and own the narrative. Unfortunately that would mean less camera for POTUS and more for vp which would never happen
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Trump is a narcissist. I think we can all agree on that. But had he not been doing daily briefings at the time, the criticism then would have been "Where is Trump" or "Trump isn't doing enough"... no win. I get it... he's the one in charge and has to take responsibility for being the lead dog. But no one handled this situation properly, and I think trump's gut instincts was to just let this burn through the population and not do anything. But at the time, the media had successfully stirred up the panic porn and you had people going out of their ******* minds. No one (or I can't think of any) person in that position would have done better than Trump. He was actually the best person to be at that spot at the time. Hell, had we had Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Pompeo, or any Democrat in that same spot, there is no telling where we would have been in March 2020 to now.

Also, I doubt Trump got any pleasure out of having to deal with this COVID nonsense. Yeah, he did brag and boast about Operation Warpspeed, but this is not one of those ideal situations. Most of these leaders get their jollies from military victories or having a piece of legislation passed... not having to deal with pandemics, natural disasters, military debacles (remember Biden at the podium after Afghanistan pullout).
 
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McDad said:
I agree. We have posters who are vehemently partisan. There is no reason, objectivity, or adherence to principles beyond "muh tribe". But there are a larger number (I think) who dig in their heels on policy and candidates even though it isn't 100% in line with their own political ideology.

Borrowing and spending are my litmus tests. That litmus is what generated tremendous loathing for politicians and apathy in our political institutions since my first joining VN.
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I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I thought that he was only marginally better than any of the other candidates in 2016, which really isn't saying much. Trump ran on 3 things: lock her up, drain the swamp and build the wall... which none got done. However, he didn't drive us in the ditch and kept the overseas escapades to a minimum. The only reason why I voted for him in 2020 is because I could see that the country was at a pivot point. Trump was the devil I knew vs Biden which is also a devil I know to an extent, but I knew Biden would simply be no different than what Hillary would have been in 2016.

I say all that I guess to say this. It is fair to criticize Trump if you want, because there is a lot there to chew on. But sadly, that was the best option available. And I would argue it is likely going to be the best option available in 2024. By 2028, hopefully, the coattails that Trump has been able to create and candidates that he has endorsed can build up a strong bench of candidates by 2028 to where we have much better options.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Taiwan could be largest producers of cucumbers instead of chips. That wouldn't affect their motivation for seizing it.

And again, if they send a portion of their manufacturing and employees here, the risk would be that we in turn start producing the chips here and eventually become a major competitor to them... or eventually, not rely on them. Then at that point, would the US really have a need to protect Taiwan so fiercely at that point? I would think they would at least try to preserve that advantage and use it as leverage for the US to protect them.
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We are going to turn into a competitor anyways whether they like it or not. Might as well be the foundation and have a better chance to take the market while being in the US.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Yet none of you guys batted an eyelash when Trump raised the deficit 6 trillion.
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Wrong. I questioned what was going on. However, none of us had been in that situation before and with 20/20 hindsight, we should not have shutdown the economy to begin with as we are still paying for it over and above the actual direct cost in deficit government spending. By the time he was out, it was obvious the spending was a freaking boondoggle that was continued by a spending-drunk Congress and supported by supposedly conservative Republicans, although they did manage to reduce the amount spent somewhat and have effectively shut down further excesses up to now. Small credit for that; should have not been spending it to begin with. To be fair I'm not sure that Trump did not get a little tipsy with the ability to print money and spend it given the pandemic, but I believe he started off wanting to implement some financial restraint to begin his administration with.

I voted for W twice. Still pissed at him for the spending in the last two years of his administration. He is like a number of Republicans who think they can spend enough money to make Democrats like them. It is a fool's errand, but they keep trying.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
There are like 4 posters who are Trump supporters but also don't believe he walks on water, you being one of them.
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Come on with the histrionics. There are plenty on here who voted for him because they believe the alternatives were worse. I did. Hope he does not run again. I also give him credit for a number of good things he did, while despising the circus his administration was. And while I criticize him for the circus, I also realize a lot of the hatred was because he was an outsider to the Beltway and a majority of the elites and government class absolutely hated him for it. He upset their apple cart. He deserves credit for doing that, but criticism for not being adept enough to put his changes on firmer ground. I blame him squarely for the current moron in the White House and partially for the idiot Senators from Georgia.
 
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Wikipediaā€™s ā€˜Recessionā€™ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition

A Wikipedia administrator has placed a pause on edits to Wikipediaā€™s ā€œRecessionā€ page by unregistered users until early August to stop ā€œvandalismā€ and ā€œmaliciousā€ content after the page was edited 41 times in the past seven days with repeated attempts to alter the historical definition of a recession.

Wikipediaā€™s ā€˜Recessionā€™ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition | The Daily Wire
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Wikipediaā€™s ā€˜Recessionā€™ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition

A Wikipedia administrator has placed a pause on edits to Wikipediaā€™s ā€œRecessionā€ page by unregistered users until early August to stop ā€œvandalismā€ and ā€œmaliciousā€ content after the page was edited 41 times in the past seven days with repeated attempts to alter the historical definition of a recession.

Wikipediaā€™s ā€˜Recessionā€™ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition | The Daily Wire
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Who is the cult now?
 
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lostsheep said:
Please tell us where we should be getting our news.
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Good grief. So you're admitting to watch MSNBC or is this just an inquiry?

Do you know why Biden, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi et al don't go to the border?

It's because the news media will follow and they know it. They will no longer be able to hide the inhumane conditions and volume. Right now the news media don't have to cover it for their viewers. Then their viewers aren't really aware or think it's a made up issue.

So this administration knows if they put their head in the sand, then corporate media is on their side. Don't expose corporate media to the horrors at the border and they will leave the issue alone too. Who cares if the cartels are taunting us or leaving women's underwear in trees from their rape victims.
 
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#112
Rasputin_Vol said:
I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I thought that he was only marginally better than any of the other candidates in 2016, which really isn't saying much. Trump ran on 3 things: lock her up, drain the swamp and build the wall... which none got done. However, he didn't drive us in the ditch and kept the overseas escapades to a minimum. The only reason why I voted for him in 2020 is because I could see that the country was at a pivot point. Trump was the devil I knew vs Biden which is also a devil I know to an extent, but I knew Biden would simply be no different than what Hillary would have been in 2016.

I say all that I guess to say this. It is fair to criticize Trump is you want, because there is a lot there to chew on. But sadly, that was the best option available. And I would argue it is likely going to be the best option available in 2024. By 2028, hopefully, the coattails that Trump has been able to create and candidates that he has endorsed can build up a strong bench of candidates by 2028 to where we have much better options.
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It is a damned shame that in this amazing country which is built on the backs of extraordinary people who are giving and generous far more than any other society, we have such horrible choices for leadership.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Good grief. So you're admitting to watch MSNBC or is this just an inquiry?

Do you know why Biden, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi et al don't go to the border?

It's because the news media will follow and they know it. They will no longer be able to hide the inhumane conditions and volume. Right now the news media don't have to cover it for their viewers. Then their viewers aren't really aware or think it's a made up issue.

So this administration knows if they put their head in the sand, then corporate media is on their side. Don't expose corporate media to the horrors at the border and they will leave the issue alone too. Who cares if the cartels are taunting us or leaving women's underwear in trees from their rape victims.
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Bro, you religiously watch a corporate media outlet.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Good grief. So you're admitting to watch MSNBC or is this just an inquiry?

Do you know why Biden, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi et al don't go to the border?

It's because the news media will follow and they know it. They will no longer be able to hide the inhumane conditions and volume. Right now the news media don't have to cover it for their viewers. Then their viewers aren't really aware or think it's a made up issue.

So this administration knows if they put their head in the sand, then corporate media is on their side. Don't expose corporate media to the horrors at the border and they will leave the issue alone too. Who cares if the cartels are taunting us or leaving women's underwear in trees from their rape victims.
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It was just an inquiry.
 
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#118
lostsheep said:
It's downright tyrannical for someone to change the definition of "recession."
However, there's nothing wrong with changing "armed insurrection" into "peaceful protest."
Glass houses and all that.
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When was the armed insurrection you speak of?
 
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#121
Godfatha said:
I'm curious who keeps coming up with the term "Armed Insurrection". If there had been that mass of people with guns and willing to use them, it would not have ended as peacefully as it did.
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I know! That term has popped up more and more in the media lately it seems. Unless the Capitol Police are now considered insurrectionists as I know they were, for the most part, armed and wound up shooting an unarmed woman who apparently tried to go through a door without permission.

I don't know. Havenā€™t seen any video clips of armed citizens that day. Unless we count the Shaman's horns...
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I know! That term has popped up more and more in the media lately it seems. Unless the Capitol Police are now considered insurrectionists as I know they were, for the most part, armed and wound up shooting an unarmed woman who apparently tried to go through a door without permission.

I don't know. Have seen any video clips of armed citizens that day. Unless we count the Shaman's horns...
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She went thru a busted out window toward lawmakers. She had to because the door you suggest she used was barricaded for protection
 
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