Interesting critique of Joe Milton's progression by former Tennessee quarterback Jonathan Crompton

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Milton is a better player than when he started here at UT he played well against Clemson . I personally think Milton's running if the play breaks down ability compared to Hooker is a big difference and his option read runs are not as good . But he can work on those and if he keeps getting better at accuracy he may win the Heisman next year. And after what he started like thats crazy .
 
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I get tired of the "ceiling" fans tend to assign to players. Look at Milton, Beasley, Fant, Mitchell and others who did not click immediately but keep on improving with playing time, development and confidence. McCullough could be a key man next season as well - just see what happens. Joe Milton could be the second consecutive transfer qb that Josh Heupel has turned into a Heisman contender in 2 years. That will be something to see. Crompton is a prime example of perseverance and becoming a star in his final season of eligibility. I also appreciate guys like Solon Page III that provide key experienced depth and give their best each week contributing much to the team's success.
 
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KTrain said:
If we Beat 5 home 1 road game
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and we are 6 & 0 heading to Gump land he will be on Heisman list even if his numbers are down. Why? ratings, here's how the movers & shakers think uhh HH is out nothing for us to gain on advertising $$$ for the invite let's put Bennett in the F4 it will help our pocketbook need as many F4 team players on the invite. Yep, that's the ticket now let's go smoke another cigar and keep on being fat & happy...
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My brotherinlaw has season tickets ... might could beg some for a game or two.
 
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fossilfiction said:
The dude kept trying and JC shut him down....
"What happened was somewhere in the middle"
Shut down with stats.
"I didn't feel that much different appears from Hendon being in there except they simplified the offense"
Explained it being conservative not simplified. There is a big difference.

Honestly JC looks so bored having to explain what was happening to the a sports writer who doesn't understand what he watched. JC changed the channel, but I am certain that Charlie wanted to dig at Milton.

Edit: he is 100% right on Clemson. Fulmer's HC downfall is Dabo's. He is stubborn as hell.
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Crompton easily made Burris change his opinion. Vols have a lot coming back and now have confidence. Looking forward to the fall.
 
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mpfvol said:
Milton is a better player than when he started here at UT he played well against Clemson . I personally think Milton's running if the play breaks down ability compared to Hooker is a big difference and his option read runs are not as good . But he can work on those and if he keeps getting better at accuracy he may win the Heisman next year. And after what he started like thats crazy .
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I don't think Milton will be as successful a runner as Hooker. Milton is a LB'er in a QB's body. As such, I don't see him cutting, darting with speed, or being an elusive target. But if his OL can protect him, and his receivers are even half as effective as the 2022 group, I think he'll pick most defenses apart. And the javelins will just blow opponents off the field.
 
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volfan_28 said:
I'm noticing some silence from a few VN posters who have gone out of their way to bash Milton every chance they get.
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Don't worry, Volfan, those type of fans have saw-scaled viper DNA. They'll hide beneath a rock, so to speak, and viciously strike at the slightest opportunity. I've seen them do it time and again. They'll be back.
 
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knox73 said:
I get tired of the "ceiling" fans tend to assign to players. Look at Milton, Beasley, Fant, Mitchell and others who did not click immediately but keep on improving with playing time, development and confidence. McCullough could be a key man next season as well - just see what happens. Joe Milton could be the second consecutive transfer qb that Josh Heupel has turned into a Heisman contender in 2 years. That will be something to see. Crompton is a prime example of perseverance and becoming a star in his final season of eligibility. I also appreciate guys like Solon Page III that provide key experienced depth and give their best each week contributing much to the team's success.
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Amen, I always try to look for development as the year goes on and one year to next. Our coaches seem to be able to develop players and our players seem to respond to coaching. When a team as a whole improves and works together everybody benefits. GBO
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I don't think Milton will be as successful a runner as Hooker. Milton is a LB'er in a QB's body. As such, I don't see him cutting, darting with speed, or being an elusive target. But if his OL can protect him, and his receivers are even half as effective as the 2022 group, I think he'll pick most defenses apart. And the javelins will just blow opponents off the field.
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He might not be as overall elusive as Hooker but he he can run good enough to keep teams honest. And at 245 pounds db’s will get tired of having to wrestle him down. He should be a great short yard runner as well as running the rpo. The good thing is we haven’t shown much of that aspect of Milton game yet for people to study but we will utilize it when needed next year. GBO!
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
He might not be as overall elusive as Hooker but he he can run good enough to keep teams honest. And at 245 pounds db’s will get tired of having to wrestle him down. He should be a great short yard runner as well as running the rpo. The good thing is we haven’t shown much of that aspect of Milton game yet for people to study but we will utilize it when needed next year. GBO!
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The first nine words of your reply sums up my opinion precisely.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
If anybody can give a true analysis of Milton, it's Crompdaddy. He endured more criticism than Milton, stayed despite it all, including death threats. Finally, got a coach who built him rather than tore him down, and it showed. I'd say all of that taught him to both see, and intimately know what a problem QB needs, and identify the progress made.
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Crompton did take a lot of criticism it wasn’t fair dude went thru 3-4 offensive coordinators in his career, until Kiffin showed up he showed what he could do.. I will always have respect for JC
 
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DenmarkVol said:
No offense, but I never, ever again want to hear any reference to that bogus, tin trophy given to the college football player the media elects every year. I want to see signs on campus and all around Neyland reading “NOTICE: THIS IS A HEISMAN-FREE ZONE. NO MENTION OF IT WILL BE TOLERATED.”

First, it was Johnny Majors they screwed. Then, it was Peyton Manning. And now, it’s Hendon Hooker, who (whom?) those pompous charlatans didn’t feel was even worthy of an invitation to New York. The process and the trophy itself are a travesty and a joke, respectively. Three times now those elitist swine-snobs have broadcast to the world what it thinks of the University of Tennessee football program.

They can all get a running start and come kiss my narrow, orange, Tennessee hindquarters. Then they can shove that useless hunk of metal up their own and set fire to it. Never again will I even listen to any talk about this completely irrelevant and meaningless charade.
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You forgot to mention Heisman runner-up 1951 Hank Lauricella on UT's National champs was screwed out by Dick Kazmaier an Ivy League team. UT has been just hated for some unknown reason. I mean Majors got beat by Paul Horning on a losing team 2 & 8 Notre Dame team. I mean it seems like one year hey let's screw UT and give it to a defensive guy for once. Hey, lets screw UT and give it to a Notre Dame player with just 2 wins. Hey, lets screw UT and give it to a Ivy League team that would probably finish last in the SEC.
Let's hope a girl don't play for some team, I can see us having a runner up to first girl player.🤣
 
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kckempf said:
I appreciated how the broadcast was able to show him going through the read progression and looking off the safeties. Clemson put a lot of pressure on him but he still stood tall in the pocket and kept his focus. It’ll be fun to see what he can do with spring and preseason prep.
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Joe always stands tall in the pocket 😂
 
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KTrain said:
You forgot to mention Heisman runner-up 1951 Hank Lauricella on UT's National champs was screwed out by Dick Kazmaier an Ivy League team. UT has been just hated for some unknown reason. I mean Majors got beat by Paul Horning on a losing team 2 & 8 Notre Dame team. I mean it seems like one year hey let's screw UT and give it to a defensive guy for once. Hey, lets screw UT and give it to a Notre Dame player with just 2 wins. Hey, lets screw UT and give it to a Ivy League team that would probably finish last in the SEC.
Let's hope a girl don't play for some team, I can see us having a runner up to first girl player.🤣
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You are right! How could I have forgotten Hank? Thank you!
 
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DenmarkVol said:
No offense, but I never, ever again want to hear any reference to that bogus, tin trophy given to the college football player the media elects every year. I want to see signs on campus and all around Neyland reading “NOTICE: THIS IS A HEISMAN-FREE ZONE. NO MENTION OF IT WILL BE TOLERATED.”

First, it was Johnny Majors they screwed. Then, it was Peyton Manning. And now, it’s Hendon Hooker, who (whom?) those pompous charlatans didn’t feel was even worthy of an invitation to New York. The process and the trophy itself are a travesty and a joke, respectively. Three times now those elitist swine-snobs have broadcast to the world what it thinks of the University of Tennessee football program.

They can all get a running start and come kiss my narrow, orange, Tennessee hindquarters. Then they can shove that useless hunk of metal up their own and set fire to it. Never again will I even listen to any talk about this completely irrelevant and meaningless charade.
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The Heistman: Giving stolen Volunteer Glory to Yankees since 1938.
Tennessee Heisman Trophy Finishes
1938: George Cafego—Tailback (7th, 55 votes)
1939: George Cafego—Tailback (4th, 296 votes)
1940: Bob Suffridge—Guard (6th)
1951: Hank Lauricella—Tailback (2nd, 424 votes)
1956: Johnny Majors—Tailback (2nd, 994 votes)
1964: Steve DeLong—Middle Guard (8th, 176 votes)
1967: Bob Johnson—Center (6th, 76 votes)
1967: Dewey Warren—Quarterback (8th, 56 votes)
1969: Steve Kiner—Linebacker (9th, 109 votes)
1973: Condredge Holloway—Quarterback (14th, 98 votes)
1976: Larry Seivers—Wide Receiver (12th)
1993: Heath Shuler—Quarterback (2nd, 688 votes)
1995: Peyton Manning—Quarterback (6th, 109 votes)
1996: Peyton Manning—Quarterback (8th, 81 votes)
1997: Peyton Manning—Quarterback (2nd, 1543 votes)
2022: Hendon Hooker—Quarterback (5th, 226 points)

From UTSports.com
 
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