Interesting Phil Steele Rankings

#51
#51
(Vol423 @ Jun 15 said:
The problem is that I don't even think that USC needs to have gelled as a team to beat Arkansas in the first game of the season. If you line up USC's players and compare them to Arkansas' players, USC has an edge in talent at the overwhelming majority of positions. As I said before, I just don't think that Arkansas has the horses to beat USC. I think that many people around here are picturing Arkansas as a great team this year, and I think they'll end up being an average team just like every other year.
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How did that talent gap work out for LSU vs. the Vols?

How did it work out for the Vols against South Carolina and Vanderbilt?

How did it work out for Louisville against South Florida last season?

How about Kansas' 40-15 win over Nebraska?

Recruited Talent is only as good as the "TEAM". I would think that a Tennessee fan would understand that more than anyone after last season.


 
#52
#52
(hatvol96 @ Jun 15 said:
Foster's a nice back. However, he can stay at UT 10 years and he won't be better than Lewis or Webb. He might end up with longevity stats, but he's not in the league with the guys I mentioned.
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why not??? please explain.



(side note)and phil steele, from what i have noticed, is the most accurate "expert" out there.
 
#53
#53
(OrangeSquare @ Jun 15 said:
How did that talent gap work out for LSU vs. the Vols?

How did it work out for the Vols against South Carolina and Vanderbilt?

How did it work out for Louisville against South Florida last season?

How about Kansas' 40-15 win over Nebraska?

Recruited Talent is only as good as the "TEAM". I would think that a Tennessee fan would understand that more than anyone after last season.
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Pete Carroll keeps his boys motivated. ALL THE TIME. It doesn't mean they will always win. But USC has not had one game in the last 4 seasons where they didn't come out pushed and ready to play some football. In every one of those games you mentioned, the favored team comes out lackadasical and flat.
 
#54
#54
(milohimself @ Jun 15 said:
Pete Carroll keeps his boys motivated. ALL THE TIME. It doesn't mean they will always win. But USC has not had one game in the last 4 seasons where they didn't come out pushed and ready to play some football. In every one of those games you mentioned, the favored team comes out lackadasical and flat.
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LSU came out "lackadasical and flat"?

Boy, you really DON'T understand SEC football do you?

I know what you are saying, and I also know you won't intertain the thought of the Pac10's best two teams losing to Arkansas and Tennessee on the same day. That's cool. I'm not trying to make you say it. But IF it happens, don't forget who told you how possible it was. :devilsmoke:
 
#55
#55
(milohimself @ Jun 15 said:
Pete Carroll keeps his boys motivated. ALL THE TIME. It doesn't mean they will always win. But USC has not had one game in the last 4 seasons where they didn't come out pushed and ready to play some football. In every one of those games you mentioned, the favored team comes out lackadasical and flat.
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i thought that they came out flat against oregon last year or the year before and barely won. i may be wrong though.
 
#56
#56
They didn't set the world on fire against Fresno either. That is not to say that the level of play they maintained for the last three years is easy to do. I'll take the won loss record over emotion any day of the week.
 
#57
#57
(OrangeSquare @ Jun 15 said:
LSU came out "lackadasical and flat"?

Boy, you really DON'T understand SEC football do you?

I know what you are saying, and I also know you won't intertain the thought of the Pac10's best two teams losing to Arkansas and Tennessee on the same day. That's cool. I'm not trying to make you say it. But IF it happens, don't forget who told you how possible it was. :devilsmoke:
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LSU against us? Yeah, the second half of that game was the one time all season where our offense worked pretty well. But you can't sit there and tell me LSU played their a-game. I know they didn't, I watched the game with my own eyes.

(vols kick balls @ Jun 15 said:
i thought that they came out flat against oregon last year or the year before and barely won. i may be wrong though.
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They started out flat then caught fire in the second half.

(Lexvol @ Jun 15 said:
They didn't set the world on fire against Fresno either. That is not to say that the level of play they maintained for the last three years is easy to do. I'll take the won loss record over emotion any day of the week.
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I think they played Fresno pretty well. Fresno played way, way up though. Then what happens to Fresno State when they get too satisfied with their almost against USC? They go out and lose to Nevada whoever else it was from the WAC they lost to. I forget. I'm not sitting here saying it happens only to SEC teams. It happens everywhere. You can see it in west coast ball. In east coast ball. In the south. In the plains. Some teams just don't play with any fire from time to time. Then there are those who come out and game up every week.
 
#58
#58
(checkerboard_charly @ Jun 15 said:
why not??? please explain.
(side note)and phil steele, from what i have noticed, is the most accurate "expert" out there.
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Lack of game breaking speed.
 
#59
#59
(hatvol96 @ Jun 16 said:
Lack of game breaking speed.
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Boy, you shoulda been at the UK game last season.

He had two amazing runs in that game, both called back by penalty I believe, but one he completely reversed field and outran everyone to the endzone.
 
#60
#60
(OrangeSquare @ Jun 16 said:
Boy, you shoulda been at the UK game last season.

He had two amazing runs in that game, both called back by penalty I believe, but one he completely reversed field and outran everyone to the endzone.
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Lots of guys look fast against Kentucky. I wouldn't use runs against them to support a point. When he outruns a DB from LSU or Florida, then I might rethink my opinion.
 
#61
#61
Foster is plenty fast enough. He doesn't look like it, but he can chew up yardage in a hurry.

Let's also not forget he was not 100% down the stretch.
 
#62
#62
(vol_freak @ Jun 16 said:
Foster is plenty fast enough. He doesn't look like it, but he can chew up yardage in a hurry.

Let's also not forget he was not 100% down the stretch.
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There's a big difference between "fast enough" and the kind of game speed Webb and Lewis exhibited.
 
#63
#63
Is that what we are discussing? I was too lazy to read back through the thread. :lol:

I don't think he has world class speed or anything but I don't see speed as a problem for him.
 
#64
#64
(vol_freak @ Jun 16 said:
Is that what we are discussing? I was too lazy to read back through the thread. :lol:

I don't think he has world class speed or anything but I don't see speed as a problem for him.
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It's not a problem, he's just not going to hit people with 70 yard runs. In a different thread, I compared him to Eddie George. I don't see where that's a bad thing.
 
#65
#65
Didn't Foster break off a 70 yard run last year? I could have sworn he did.
 
#67
#67
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jun 16 said:
Didn't Foster break off a 70 yard run last year? I could have sworn he did.
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A blind pig will occasionally find an acorn. I said runs.
 
#68
#68
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jun 16 said:
Didn't Foster break off a 70 yard run last year? I could have sworn he did.
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I believe he had a couple long ones called back.
 
#70
#70
(vol_freak @ Jun 16 said:
a blind pig?
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Just an old southern saying. It's not meant as any reflection of Foster's abilities. Simply stating that exceptions prove the rules.
 
#71
#71
Around here I have always heard it as a "blind squirrel".
 
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