Intruder shot, killed after kicking in door, charging occupant with a knife

[NorthDallas40]

philosophical debate aside, women are less safe in a world without guns. It is the equalizer in self-defense.

why does EL hate women?

To even try and push a narrative to restrict firearm possession from single mothers is just so broken. Why she would so limit her fellow sisters’s safety over some irrational fear is just mind boggling.

 

[RikidyBones]

You start astray and get worse from there. I don't know if you can ever find your way back. I'm rooting for ya, though.

More like ashtray

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Again you validate my post. You believe the govt should make these decisions for people. It's a childlike way of thinking

The government should be in charge of your healthcare.

The government should determine your wages.

The government should ration your food.

The government should determine what type of vehicle you can own and drive.

The government should control all aspects of our lives.

You don’t need a gun to protect yourself. The government will protect you.

You should bow down to our leaders. They know what’s best for you.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I basically agree, but with a twist. If someone in public is using sidewalks or roads (or possibly other public property) as a platform, then that person is also impeding the right of others to move freely ... depriving them of liberty.

If they are interfering with you I think you can clear your space. But if they’re just imploring you as you walk on by keep walking. I don’t think you get to run over some idiot protesting in the road which is where I think you’re going. But you can call the law to have their ass hauled off. And if the law won’t haul them off... move? Like bham said 1a is to get the government to leave us the hell alone. Us leaving each other alone is a much more difficult problem as social media shows us.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You need a permit if it is legally required otherwise you are carrying illegally.
x and y are variables that are negotiable.

Ok, so you were wrong with your first rebuttal and to the second you have no clue.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The government should be in charge of your healthcare.

The government should determine your wages.

The government should ration your food.

The government should determine what type of vehicle you can own and drive.

The government should control all aspects of our lives.

You don’t need a gun to protect yourself. The government will protect you.

You should bow down to our leaders. They know what’s best for you.

Luther? That you?

 

[evillawyer]

philosophical debate aside, women are less safe in a world without guns. It is the equalizer in self-defense.

why does EL hate women?

Gun-Rights Advocates Claim Owning a Gun Makes a Woman Safer. The Research Says They're Wrong.

 

[StarRaider]

The government should be in charge of your healthcare.

The government should determine your wages.

The government should ration your food.

The government should determine what type of vehicle you can own and drive.

The government should control all aspects of our lives.

You don’t need a gun to protect yourself. The government will protect you.

You should bow down to our leaders. They know what’s best for you.

sounds like the dem's we the people platform

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Gun-Rights Advocates Claim Owning a Gun Makes a Woman Safer. The Research Says They're Wrong.

It would definitely be a bad idea for you to own one. So don't. The cops will protect you, because you are special.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Gun-Rights Advocates Claim Owning a Gun Makes a Woman Safer. The Research Says They're Wrong.

Your irrational competing rights narrative is fundamentally flawed.

And if you chose not to own a firearm don’t. But that bears no impact on others choice to do so.

 

[volinbham]

Gun-Rights Advocates Claim Owning a Gun Makes a Woman Safer. The Research Says They're Wrong.

I'll step in for McDad

A Harvard study found that, of the more than 300 cases of sexual assault reported in the sample of NCVS data between 2007 and 2011, none were stopped by a firearm. Of the 1,119 sexual assaults reported in the NCVS from 1992 to 2001, a different study revealed that only a single case was stopped by defensive gun use.

Oof!

and

A case-control study comparing women killed by an intimate partner to women who had been battered but not killed revealed that more than half of the homicide victims lived with a firearm in the home, while that was true for only 16 percent of women who were abused but survived.

Oof!

And

According to another, older University of Tennessee study, the rate of women killed with a gun by their husband or an intimate partner is more than double the rate of women killed by strangers using guns, knives, or any other method.

Oof!

 

[82_VOL_83]

Say what?

Weezer, you and looth got a lil sum sum goin on da side?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Got it.
People always have the right to defend themselves. That doesn't mean they have the right to carry any weapon, any time under the guise of self-defense.
I think part of the process of purchasing a gun and/or getting a permit to carry should be providing an ID.

What about people of color? You know the ones that can't get an ID in order to prove identity in order to vote? Should they not have the right of self defense?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I'll step in for McDad

A Harvard study found that, of the more than 300 cases of sexual assault reported in the sample of NCVS data between 2007 and 2011, none were stopped by a firearm. Of the 1,119 sexual assaults reported in the NCVS from 1992 to 2001, a different study revealed that only a single case was stopped by defensive gun use.

Oof!

and

A case-control study comparing women killed by an intimate partner to women who had been battered but not killed revealed that more than half of the homicide victims lived with a firearm in the home, while that was true for only 16 percent of women who were abused but survived.

Oof!

And

According to another, older University of Tennessee study, the rate of women killed with a gun by their husband or an intimate partner is more than double the rate of women killed by strangers using guns, knives, or any other method.

Oof!

It’s almost like... guns aren’t the problem it’s more domestic abuse which is the root cause

Man that is some broke back “science”

 

[evillawyer]

I'll step in for McDad

A Harvard study found that, of the more than 300 cases of sexual assault reported in the sample of NCVS data between 2007 and 2011, none were stopped by a firearm. Of the 1,119 sexual assaults reported in the NCVS from 1992 to 2001, a different study revealed that only a single case was stopped by defensive gun use.

Oof!

and

A case-control study comparing women killed by an intimate partner to women who had been battered but not killed revealed that more than half of the homicide victims lived with a firearm in the home, while that was true for only 16 percent of women who were abused but survived.

Oof!

And

According to another, older University of Tennessee study, the rate of women killed with a gun by their husband or an intimate partner is more than double the rate of women killed by strangers using guns, knives, or any other method.

Oof!

Not following you. If you got data showing gun ownership makes women safer, show it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not following you. If you got data showing gun ownership makes women safer, show it.

He used your data to show that the conclusions and boundary conditions of that “study” were ****. No wonder you idiots think lockdowns work with how you practice “science”

 

[RikidyBones]

Just because something serves as a defense in no way means it is appropriate.
Everyone having a mini nuke is a defense.
Leprosy serves as a defense against sexual assault.

Lol you're a real piece of work.

 

[luthervol]

If it is your intention for others to block you, then your impact is successful.
I am just curious if you're effective at what you hope to do in a gun discussion. Your post which started our most recent exchange seemed a bit disappointed that many (most?) have wrongly characterized your views on guns.

I've always had a great deal of respect for 72. I was a little surprised he blocked me but I was able to twist it into a positive.
It is frustrating to say one thing over and over for four years only to have others claim otherwise. But I don't fault my message and it certainly isn't only with the gun debate. To me, it highlights a much larger and obvious problem.

 

[evillawyer]

He used your data to show that the conclusions and boundary conditions of that “study” were ****. No wonder you idiots think lockdowns work with how you practice “science”

Homeboy was the one with the positive thesis (guns are an equalizer that make women safer). You advance an empirical claim, you should back it up with empirical data. You know, science.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I've always had a great deal of respect for 72. I was a little surprised he blocked me but I was able to twist it into a positive.
It is frustrating to say one thing over and over for four years only to have others claim otherwise. But I don't fault my message and it certainly isn't only with the gun debate. To me, it highlights a much larger and obvious problem.

This is the only possible solution.

 

[luthervol]

Say what?

Joke, but the complement was intended.

 

[volinbham]

Not following you. If you got data showing gun ownership makes women safer, show it.

In item 1 - they are limiting to sexual assaults that occurred. It tells us nothing about sexual assaults prevented or thwarted. Hard to imagine that a woman used a gun and was still sexually assaulted.

In item 2 - it doesn't attribute the killing to the firearm; it simply says there was a firearm in the home.

In item 3 - women are many times more (some studies I've seen say over 60% of the time) are killed by a partner rather than a stranger so the comparison is meaningless since it compares absolute numbers. It could easily be that when strangers kill them it's more likely with a gun but that data is not included.

Hope that helps.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Homeboy was the one with the positive thesis (guns are an equalizer that make women safer). You advance an empirical claim, you should back it up with empirical data. You know, science.

You mean like the one you countered with that Homeboy shredded and threw back in your face?

 

[evillawyer]

You mean like the one you countered with that Homeboy shredded and threw back in your face?

Still waiting for that data love

Having a Gun in the House Doesn't Make a Woman Safer

 

[NorthDallas40]

Still waiting for that data love

Having a Gun in the House Doesn't Make a Woman Safer

More broke back conclusions and boundary conditions. 0 for 2 sister. Keep swinging.