Iowa Predictions

#51
#51
Another point - if anything it says a lot about us as a country on the race issue that we've come to a point where someone with Obama's background can win in an overwhelmingly white state. I thought the middle name alone would have had a greater effect.
 
#52
#52
I'm still learning a lot about politics, so help me out here. Some guy on CNN said we'd know our Democratic rep. by Feb 5th but not the Republican rep.

However, Huckabee had 34%, and Romney had 25% and Thompson at 13%, compared to Obama at 38% and Edwards at 30% and Clinton at 29%.

Doesn't Huckabee's road seem easier?
 
#53
#53
CSpindizzy said:
Another point - if anything it says a lot about us as a country on the race issue that we've come to a point where someone with Obama's background can win in an overwhelmingly white state. I thought the middle name alone would have had a greater effect.
Click to expand...

That is true.
 
#54
#54
Huckabee will have a hard time in the states leading up to Feb 6th. Huck will not win in MI and NH. He may win in SC but not in FL. Right now the GOP race is as fluid as it gets.

Think of this potential scenario:

IA - Huck
NH - McCain
MI - McCain

Romney drops out

SC - Huck or McCain
FL - Giuliani

So in this scenario you'll have McCain and Rudy above Huck. Huck has to compete on the money front. While he pulled off little money in IA, that state does not drain money for travel, etc. Plus he's focused EVERYTHING in IA and very little in anything else. He and Edwards have the same problem with money and an organization outside of IA.

I think we'll know by Feb 6th who the GOP candidate is.
 
#59
#59
I know it was a big deal for Obama to win. I know it was also probably a time in history to be remembered by blacks and that is awesome that we have come this far. I felt a bit like Obama pushed back a bit too much though. "They said this and they said that could not be done". I am a white guy and I don't know who THEY are, but I guess they are whites and that hurts a bit because I like Obama. I feel like, being a younger guy that I am, a good man is a good man regardless of race. Maybe some feel otherwise and I am sure if it was the 60's it would be a problem. I just feel like in 2007, MOST people take a man or woman for what they are and race should not be an issue. I felt like his speech was a bit pointed at some white non-believers. Maybe one day it won't be necessary at all to point out such milestones because hopefully level headed people can see a person for what they are. However, I guess reflecting back on my thoughts, this is a huge milestone and Obama and all followers have done well. Congrats
 
#61
#61
It's all or nothing for Hillary. She will NEVER settle for anything less than POTUS. If she loses this, she's completely crushed. Her whole being has been and will be in the next few months to win 1600 Penn Ave.
 
#62
#62
She did not have a strong showing, It really shocked me in one way to see middle class white America vote Obama, lets see if this continues. Edwards had a decent showing too. And last but not least the R's had a strong showing with Huckabee "strongly backed by Chuck Norris", so what do you guys thing about Huck & Chuck '08, lol:huh:
 
#63
#63
Obama's acceptance by white voters should be seen with the hope that perhaps Dr. King's "content of their character, not the color of their skin" ideal is more prevalent than the race hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson and their willing media accomplices are willing to admit.

That said, he's still a socialist and I wouldn't want him as POTUS.
 
#64
#64
agreed, i think the less said about race the better and Obama really isn't making it a deal. I hope he "upsets" the Hillary Machine that we were told would be rolling through america at this time. I lean right, but am still undecided
 
#65
#65
Bill Clinton didn't win the Iowa Caucus or the New Hampshire Primary and he still won president. That said, I think the two best people capable of leading this country won last night and I'm on a bubble right now who to vote for. I will say, if electing Obama would once and for all put this racism stigma away, I'd vote for him in a minute just to prove my point that only a handful still exist. I do know without the white voter support Obama could do nothing. Actually, he seems pretty smart/sharp. This is just my opinion, agree or not.
 
#66
#66
MG1968 said:
Obama's acceptance by white voters should be seen with the hope that perhaps Dr. King's "content of their character, not the color of their skin" ideal is more prevalent than the race hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson and their willing media accomplices are willing to admit.

That said, he's still a socialist and I wouldn't want him as POTUS.
Click to expand...

I agree with most of this. His race is largely irrelevant to most. He's certainly hit a cord with many and has a strong presence. As stated before, I like the man but not his policies.
 
#67
#67
MG1968 said:
Iowa is an interesting state, it's not as solidly conservative as some of the other midwest flyovers. I have my doubts they'll select an evangelical minister with a habit of pardoning rapists.

I'm going to go on the assumption that the pre-caucus polls are hogwash.

Clinton and Giulani win in Iowa
Click to expand...

:birgits_giggle:
 
#68
#68
Great speech by Obama, man he is another silver tongued devil.

Also, I thought Huck's speech was on par with Obama's.
 
#71
#71
It had nothing to do with the actual nicks and crucks of the speech, it was his delivery!

The masses will flock to Obama on his speeking ability alone.

Clinton's new voice coach has her speaking monotone, that will voice coach will be canned and she will go back to the snarl!
 
#72
#72
OrangeEmpire said:
It had nothing to do with the actual nicks and crucks of the speech, it was his delivery!

The masses will flock to Obama on his speeking ability alone.

Clinton's new voice coach has her speaking monotone, that will voice coach will be canned and she will go back to the snarl!
Click to expand...

He is an amazing speaker, I think that is what initially drew me in.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top