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#51
#51
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
 
#52
#52
Is is correct to assume that:

Conservatives want a country where the government is small and not involved in the private lives of citizens except when it comes to issues in the bedroom (gay marriage).

and

Liberals want a country where the government is large and involved in many other aspects of the private lives of citizens but not involved with issues in the bedroom.
 
#53
#53
Chattaben said:
Is is correct to assume that:

Conservatives want a country where the government is small and not involved in the private lives of citizens except when it comes to issues in the bedroom (gay marriage).

and

Liberals want a country where the government is large and involved in many other aspects of the private lives of citizens but not involved with issues in the bedroom.
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bingo
 
#56
#56
droski said:
and this is why they should be allowed to get married. there are legal rights married couples have than non married ones do not.
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Or just change to wording around to make gay couples "legal" without calling a marriage to make everyone happy.

Personally, I don't care what people do behind closed doors.
 
#58
#58
DinkinFlicka said:
Not everyone subscribes to this book. Your argument blows.
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Not arguing, just passing along a word to the wise.

Using your logic set I could say; not everyone subscribes to the secular humanist manifesto, therefore your argument sucks! :)
 
#63
#63
So sorry that I think it's crap for marriage to remain between a man and a woman because the book of Leviticus says so.

I don't think there's a verse in the bible that says it is our duty to keep others from sinning.
 
#64
#64
DinkinFlicka said:
So sorry that I think it's crap for marriage to remain between a man and a woman because the book of Leviticus says so.

I don't think there's a verse in the bible that says it is our duty to keep others from sinning.
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Then there is the judgement of nations to consider.
 
#67
#67
Chattaben said:
Separate but equal? I've heard of the concept. Wonder if it has worked in the past?
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Hell no.

Make a legal union between a man and a woman or a man and a man or a woman and a woman all the same thing legally.

It doesn't make sense, in a country where religious freedom is touted, that straight married couples get legal advantages.

Make it all the same in the eyes of the law and let God sort them out when it's time for him to do so.

That's my take on it.
 
#69
#69
CountVolcula said:
Most people dont get married to have benefits. I got married to start a family and have children.
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you couldn't have stared a family and had children without getting legally married? why bother to get the marriage certificate? why not just get married in the church if it's all about religion and the legal part doesn't matter?
 
#70
#70
justingroves said:
Hell no.

Make a legal union between a man and a woman or a man and a man or a woman and a woman all the same thing legally.

It doesn't make sense, in a country where religious freedom is touted, that straight married couples get legal advantages.

Make it all the same in the eyes of the law and let God sort them out when it's time for him to do so.

That's my take on it.
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This is exactly how i feel.
 
#71
#71
CountVolcula said:
Most people dont get married to have benefits. I got married to start a family and have children.
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Most people either get married for the tax break or accidentally started a family and try to cover it up under the guise of marriage. Then they find out they can't stand each other and end it. See the 50% divorce rate.
 
#72
#72
droski said:
you couldn't have stared a family and had children without getting legally married? why bother to get the marriage certificate? why not just get married in the church if it's all about religion and the legal part doesn't matter?
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I was raised, like the vast majority of people, that you dont have kids unless you are married and if you do, the responsible thing to do is marry the woman you got pregnant.
 
#73
#73
lumberjack4 said:
Most people either get married for the tax break or accidentally started a family and try to cover it up under the guise of marriage. Then they find out they can't stand each other and end it. See the 50% divorce rate.
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And thats not what it is about. We, as a society, have destroyed the institution of marriage.
 
#74
#74
CountVolcula said:
I was raised, like the vast majority of people, that you dont have kids unless you are married and if you do, the responsible thing to do is marry the woman you got pregnant.
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The responsible thing to do is do what is best for the child. That doesn't mean just up and marry the girl if nothing is there. If people get married just because they are having a kid, then that marriage probably won't last too long. Also I don't care when people have kids just as long as they are responsible enough to take care of it, assuming the woman chooses to have it.
 
#75
#75
CountVolcula said:
I was raised, like the vast majority of people, that you dont have kids unless you are married and if you do, the responsible thing to do is marry the woman you got pregnant.
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understood but that has nothing to do with the legal aspect. you get the marriage certificate because there are certain legal benefits. otherwise you would just get married in yoru church and leave it at that.
 
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