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BreatheUT said:
I think there are many enemies are within the borders. Would the citizens be ready for an internal attack or is this country in too much disarray?
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With our society falling by the waist side, fighting, killing, and divided it’s in to much disarray for our citizens to even do anything about an attack here in our country. We have fallen off of a cliff, and we are not going back to being civilized again.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I sure hope thats the outcome. That is the recipe for peace ...at least from that direction. "Palestine" is another quagmire of its own sadly.

Also folks, read Zechariah 9:1-5


Zechariah 9​

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Judgment on Israel’s Enemies​

9 A prophecy:
The word of the Lord is against the land of Hadrak
and will come to rest on Damascus—
for the eyes of all people and all the tribes of Israel
are on the Lord—[a]
2 and on Hamath too, which borders on it,
and on Tyre and Sidon, though they are very skillful.
3 Tyre has built herself a stronghold;
she has heaped up silver like dust,
and gold like the dirt of the streets.
4 But the Lord will take away her possessions
and destroy her power on the sea,
and she will be consumed by fire.
5 Ashkelon will see it and fear;
Gaza will writhe in agony,
and Ekron too, for her hope will wither.
Gaza will lose her king

^^^ Thats pretty clear what happens to Gaza right? There are many other examples of what happens when groups of people or armies/nations attack Israel. The Bible clearly says that none shall prevail and the God of Isaac and Jacob will destroy them who dare to try, should Israel be unable to do so themselves.
* I prefer the KJV myself, but went with NIV here because I know some folks are opposed to the thee/thy/thou etc. These verses are nearly the same in both so nothing is lost in translation IMO
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Matthew 24

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The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times​

24 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:

Matthew 24​

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The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times​

24 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
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^^^ thats endgame prophecy though Ras. It will surely happen...but there are other things that Revelations says will happen first. The coming of the Beast, the Antichrist, everyone taking the mark...widespread slaughter of millions, the Rapture...etc etc. Lots of things have to fall into place before Christ comes back. Should take a few years for those things to all take place before that great Trumpet will sound in the sky. I can certainly see folks believing that the end is near...why wouldn't it be? The way this world has longsince turned its back on God Almighty? But do you think that the Temple at Jerusalem is about to be destroyed now for the final time? That all the things that were foretold to happen before have already happened? I havent seen any evidence of that.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
^^^ thats endgame prophecy though Ras. It will surely happen...but there are other things that Revelations says will happen first. The coming of the Beast, the Antichrist, everyone taking the mark...widespread slaughter of millions, the Rapture...etc etc. Lots of things have to fall into place before Christ comes back. Should take a few years for those things to all take place before that great Trumpet will sound in the sky. I can certainly see folks believing that the end is near...why wouldn't it be? The way this world has longsince turned its back on God Almighty? But do you think that the Temple at Jerusalem is about to be destroyed now for the final time? That all the things that were foretold to happen before have already happened? I havent seen any evidence of that.
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Do please find the religion page.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It may have been as simple as saving face with their people
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I think that's part of it. I think they also received a lot of pressure from their Arab neighbors. Iran doesn't have a lot of real friends in the region save the desperate ones that rely on them, they are thought a little on the dangerous side.

There is some buyers remorse for warming to them recently. The area is very dangerous right now because of them. The headway towards normalization in relations could have been very good for business for nations like SA, UAE etc.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
^^^ thats endgame prophecy though Ras.
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No, he specifically spoke to the disciples about The Temple that was in Jerusalem while he was on the earth, and then roughly 30-40 years, his prophecy came true. That was 2000 years ago, not end times.

Get over it. The Temple is done and over with. And you, me or no one else will be able to name the time when The Temple will be restored. That not even Netanyahu or Biden or Trump or whoever will accelerate the process.

Matthew 24

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The Day and Hour Unknown​

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
 
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turbovol said:
Do please find the religion page.
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You can’t talk Israel with out religion.
You may not like it but there is a group in Israel who is claiming their lands as promised in Torah. They’re not going to stop so you probably need to understand why they’re doing it. The people on the other side , also believe the land is promised by their religion.

Maybe this discussion isn’t for you.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, he specifically spoke to the disciples about The Temple that was in Jerusalem while he was on the earth, and then roughly 30-40 years, his prophecy came true. That was 2000 years ago, not end times.

Get over it. The Temple is done and over with. And you, me or no one else will be able to name the time when The Temple will be restored. That not even Netanyahu or Biden or Trump or whoever will accelerate the process.

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and yet every thing needed for the temple is there.
Every stone, every board and every temple item of worship.
The temple could be built in a mater of months.

The temple willl be back. It’s just a matter of time.
 
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Ras in this thread....
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, he specifically spoke to the disciples about The Temple that was in Jerusalem while he was on the earth, and then roughly 30-40 years, his prophecy came true. That was 2000 years ago, not end times.

Get over it. The Temple is done and over with. And you, me or no one else will be able to name the time when The Temple will be restored. That not even Netanyahu or Biden or Trump or whoever will accelerate the process.

Matthew 24​

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New International Version​

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The Day and Hour Unknown​

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
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The temple at Jerusalem has been destroyed several times. Solomons Temple that once held the Ark of the Covenant in the Holy of Holies is no longer intact. It has already been destroyed and will be rebuilt. The muslims also destroyed a temple there. The Temple spoken of in Revelation, the last Temple, has not yet been built. I am really hoping construction begins as soon as the last muslim terrorist is removed from Gaza.

Thats the only muslims left in Gaza...surely...since people have had more than 3 months to evacuate from that tiny plot of land into Egypt, Jordan, and even Israel. So the only ones left there surely stayed to fight Israel. Theres no other reason to stay on a pile of rubble while Billions of $$$ in aid roll in to pay for families to be relocated elsewhere and be fed and clothed there.
 
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