Iraq...forgotten?

#76
#76
BigPapaVol said:
It's clearly getting easier. Everyone would do it if greed weren't driving those in power who fight daily to oppose it. Difficulty is not the reason more nations don't do freedom.
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I would blame religion more than greed but they both count.
 
#77
#77
slobberknocker said:
So it's a "warped reason" to be against the war? Listen up grasshopper...I had family and friends die in Nam, so get off that freakin' high patriot games flag raising horse of yours. When my friends starting dying in Nam, that's when I got pissed and did every thing I could to stop that senseless war. "Domino Theory"...maybe you've heard of it, but I seriously doubt it.
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and we're fortunate to have had you there toting that bong and shouting your slogans. where would we be today without the beloved demonstrator. Let me think.....if we traded all of our soldiers for peaceniks we would be....frickin' European. Trade the peaceniks for soldiers we would be.......where we are today because the peaceniks aren't worth a red dime.

I've heard of the Domino Theory and I still find no use for a stoned out, chanting demonstrator.
 
#79
#79
He's done BPV, or at least he should be. "Peaceniks" ...very creative. Bonus points for creativity.
 
#81
#81
therealUT said:
Now that the tide is very obviously turning in Iraq, it seems that this forum is intriguingly silent...



What's the deal?
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Welcome back
Glad to see you posting again

What are your thoughts on Blackwater, and their current situation:

- trigger happy and under reporting shooting occurences
- smuggling weapons to Kurds
 
#83
#83
CSpindizzy said:
And I was just joking....tough crowd.
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Me too.....

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#85
#85
I just think it's hillarious that anyone who thought this war was pointless, etc. is somehow a pansy, commie, traitor, commie, pinko, etc. It's odd how some of the most decorated soldiers and veterans speak out against this war but yet those who disagree with it are labeled as if they were draft dodging hippies. If people are against this mission in Iraq, they are just as American as those who support it. Being against this does not imply being anti-American, anti-patriotic, anti-soldier, etc. Those who DO think that is the case are living in some hole and truly have no clue what reality is. No one in this country owns patriotism or love of the Armed Forces.
 
#87
#87
GAVol said:
It only gets discussed when it's politically convenient . . . like say when the leadership of a certain party actually takes to the floor of the Senate trying to manufacture a fake controversy and score cheap points at the expense of a talk show host.
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Iraq is always politically convienent to discuss if you want to get Dems elected in the next election as long as the the public sentiment runs 2 to 1 against the Iraq war it would always be convienent to bring up. If you need to refresh your memory just go to youtube and type 2006 election results then you'll see what I'm saying.
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#88
#88
CSpindizzy said:
When in doubt don't comment.
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wasn't in doubt. took your comment for your typical fence sitting, devil's advocate, poll driven garbage.

Never suspected you'd use something as weak as "just kidding." I guess now you're going to go find some technicality in the debate to play semantics upon and turn this into some way of proving you knew all along. Then you're going to follow that up with incessant pushing of a meaningless point about which nobody cares, assuming you'll eventually blind everyone to your original silliness.

Please commence, but just let me know when it's over.
 
#89
#89
CSpindizzy said:
I just think it's hillarious that anyone who thought this war was pointless, etc. is somehow a pansy, commie, traitor, commie, pinko, etc. It's odd how some of the most decorated soldiers and veterans speak out against this war but yet those who disagree with it are labeled as if they were draft dodging hippies. If people are against this mission in Iraq, they are just as American as those who support it. Being against this does not imply being anti-American, anti-patriotic, anti-soldier, etc. Those who DO think that is the case are living in some hole and truly have no clue what reality is. No one in this country owns patriotism or love of the Armed Forces.
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the maroon declared himself a John Kerry type in his original comment. He was a protestor. He got treated like one.

Speaking of John Kerry, he was one of those "most decorated soldiers" when he went through his little ribbon tossing ceremony. Guess it won him a senate seat. Maybe we should all protest.

Being against the war means nothing. Openly and publicly, more for the cameras than anything, protesting is anti-all of that stuff you mentioned.
 
#90
#90
vol_in_ar said:
Welcome back
Glad to see you posting again

What are your thoughts on Blackwater, and their current situation:

- trigger happy and under reporting shooting occurences
- smuggling weapons to Kurds
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I will have to wait to see if any investigation produces anything conclusive in which Blackwater would be seen hurting our efforts in Iraq.

Personally, most of the Blackwater guys are very professional and extremely proficient in what they do.
 
#91
#91
CSpindizzy said:
I just think it's hillarious that anyone who thought this war was pointless, etc. is somehow a pansy, commie, traitor, commie, pinko, etc. It's odd how some of the most decorated soldiers and veterans speak out against this war but yet those who disagree with it are labeled as if they were draft dodging hippies. If people are against this mission in Iraq, they are just as American as those who support it. Being against this does not imply being anti-American, anti-patriotic, anti-soldier, etc. Those who DO think that is the case are living in some hole and truly have no clue what reality is. No one in this country owns patriotism or love of the Armed Forces.
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GOP=Patriotism!

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#94
#94
BigPapaVol said:
wasn't in doubt. took your comment for your typical fence sitting, devil's advocate, poll driven garbage.

Never suspected you'd use something as weak as "just kidding." I guess now you're going to go find some technicality in the debate to play semantics upon and turn this into some way of proving you knew all along. Then you're going to follow that up with incessant pushing of a meaningless point about which nobody cares, assuming you'll eventually blind everyone to your original silliness.

Please commence, but just let me know when it's over.
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Wow. I'm surprised you bothered to get all hot and heavy into a reply. A simple comment that was a joke and already acknowledged by the person I replied to tends to get you all worked up doesn't it? Do you like hearing yourself talk? You love to take something that has absolutely nothing to do with you and make it yours. Are you that repressed? Bored? Lonely?
 
#95
#95
CSpindizzy said:
Wow. I'm surprised you bothered to get all hot and heavy into a reply. A simple comment that was a joke and already acknowledged by the person I replied to tends to get you all worked up doesn't it? Do you like hearing yourself talk? You love to take something that has absolutely nothing to do with you and make it yours. Are you that repressed? Bored? Lonely?
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I told you not to tell any one!

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#96
#96
BigPapaVol said:
the maroon declared himself a John Kerry type in his original comment. He was a protestor. He got treated like one.

Speaking of John Kerry, he was one of those "most decorated soldiers" when he went through his little ribbon tossing ceremony. Guess it won him a senate seat. Maybe we should all protest.

Being against the war means nothing. Openly and publicly, more for the cameras than anything, protesting is anti-all of that stuff you mentioned.
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Once again you don't follow a post. Shocking. I didn't even bring up the "maroon" you reference but somehow, and I know this is hard to believe, but you assumed this is what I was referring to. News flash....my comment was all encompassing and even acknowledged those who actually served.

Being for the war means nothing. Since this whole war has shifted meanings and positions, it means the followers have had to dance around and redefine what they are in fact for. We were for ending a terrorist threat. Removing WMD's. Regime change. Enforcing the UN resolutions. Establishing democracy. Protecting democracy. Fighting terrorists that were not there originally. Etc. Etc. Given how events tend to go in cycles I can't wait to see what the next talking points are on how this event is somehow a good thing and we're realy there to (fill in the blank).
 
#99
#99
CSpindizzy said:
Once again you don't follow a post. Shocking. I didn't even bring up the "maroon" you reference but somehow, and I know this is hard to believe, but you assumed this is what I was referring to. News flash....my comment was all encompassing and even acknowledged those who actually served.

Being for the war means nothing. Since this whole war has shifted meanings and positions, it means the followers have had to dance around and redefine what they are in fact for. We were for ending a terrorist threat. Removing WMD's. Regime change. Enforcing the UN resolutions. Establishing democracy. Protecting democracy. Fighting terrorists that were not there originally. Etc. Etc. Given how events tend to go in cycles I can't wait to see what the next talking points are on how this event is somehow a good thing and we're realy there to (fill in the blank).
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So you don't think that from the outset it involved enforcing a UN resolution, and that was/is not a valid answer? :unsure:

I don't care what any of the administrations answers to the question have been, in my mind from the outset it was cut and dry... UN resolution not being followed, someone needs to enforce it... fine.
 
#100
#100
rwemyss said:
So you don't think that from the outset it involved enforcing a UN resolution, and that was/is not a valid answer? :unsure:

I don't care what any of the administrations answers to the question have been, in my mind from the outset it was cut and dry... UN resolution not being followed, someone needs to enforce it... fine.
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Wow, you are rational.

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